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Marceℓℓo

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Mar 16, 2007
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Here's my prediction:

Quaresma finally shows his potential at a big club due to Scolari who counts on him.Scolari gets fired,Quaresma will choke again.At the end of the season neither of Chelsea or Inter want him and Inter sells him back to Porto for a coke and a Hamburger.
 

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Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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can we say that inter wrecked another player :tup:
Not really. He was screwed up from the beginning. Was supposed to be a hot new thing at Barcelona, but they dumped him. He revived his career later on, but now apparently he's enacting the same kind of arrogant behavior that doesn't go at a big club.

However, you can very well say that Mourinho failed utterly after fighting tooth and nail to bring him in in the first place. Awful judgment.
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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Marceℓℓo;1886015 said:
Here's my prediction:

Quaresma finally shows his potential at a big club due to Scolari who counts on him.Scolari gets fired,Quaresma will choke again.At the end of the season neither of Chelsea or Inter want him and Inter sells him back to Porto for a coke and a Hamburger.
What if it is all a preparation for the return of the special one to Chelsea?
 

CAPITANO

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Jul 12, 2006
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He was doomed before it was announced he joined them.
In his defence he was never really given a proper chance, he's coming to a new country, a new style of football and they signed him towards the end of the transfer window, which didn't give him a proper pre season with the team

Some players need time to adjust to their new surroundings and others pick it up straight away, giving a player only 6 months to become the superstar of the team is the wrong decision by any club, and when your fans are booing you doesn't help either.

Don't forget that Lippi said that he could buy any player in the world for his team it would be Quaresma
 

.zero

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The trouble with Juve

Poor tactics, terrible physical condition and old age are at the root of Juventus’ dismal run of form, argues Giovanni Spinella

For the second consecutive season, January has become the graveyard of Juventus’ title ambitions. With only one win in the last four games, the Old Lady’s management must now reflect on what has caused their downfall. The answers are threefold – physical, tactical and, for want of a better term, biological.

Ever since the Christmas break, Juve’s form has crumbled. The Bianconeri have been consistently over-matched across the pitch not only against Udinese and Cagliari, but even against Siena, Fiorentina and Lazio. Opposition players have regularly reached the ball first, won every tackle and out-paced Juve’s performers.

Juventus have started every game slowly, to then pick up their pace a bit, to peak and then drop. Only the skill of players such as Alessandro Del Piero, Claudio Marchisio and Nicola Legrottaglie have avoided heavier defeats.

And Juve’s mysterious spate of injuries only compounds the problems – there still isn’t a return date for Mauro Camoranesi or Hasan Salihamidzic. And Giorgio Chiellini returned to action at the weekend only to leave half an hour into the Cagliari defeat. Cristiano Zanetti too is again injured after recent recovery. Just what are the physical staff playing at?

Tactically boss Claudio Ranieri has changed Juventus’ formation from the 4-4-2 line-up that did so well against Real Madrid and Milan to a more offensive 4-3-1-2 with either Pavel Nedved or Marco Marchionni playing behind the two strikers.

This has had two consequences. Defensively Juventus are being overwhelmed on the wings – attackers are outnumbering and outpacing Juve’s full-backs – whereas offensively Juve no longer supply crosses for the strikers. Is it a coincidence that Amauri hasn’t scored in 2009?

Closely tied in with the tactical problem is the biological issue. Some key players are finally showing their age. Nedved’s dip in form – notwithstanding his goal against Cagliari – has been evident.

In pinning so many hopes on the 36-year-old Czech player Juventus were always rolling the dice and this time they came up snake-eyes. But even Del Piero has been playing in a different role – more the playmaking fantasista than the striker. Is this for tactical or physical reasons?

With the side struggling to recover their form and a tactical change that is problematic, Ranieri has some difficult choices to make. If he wants to save Juve’s season he is going to have to summon the strength to bench the lagging players and cease his tactical tinkering. Otherwise Juventus are in for a pretty ordinary 2009.


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Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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I hate this whole "oh we've been so unlucky about injuries" rhetoric. It's just an excuse. It's your club, your players and your medical staff. If half your team is injured it's clearly YOUR fault. Unless we're talking about vicious fouls, which account for about 0.5% of all injuries in the grand scheme of things.

If your reason why you can't compete is that you only got half your team then you're clearly doing it wrong.
 

JCK

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JCK
May 11, 2004
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I hate this whole "oh we've been so unlucky about injuries" rhetoric. It's just an excuse. It's your club, your players and your medical staff. If half your team is injured it's clearly YOUR fault. Unless we're talking about vicious fouls, which account for about 0.5% of all injuries in the grand scheme of things.

If your reason why you can't compete is that you only got half your team then you're clearly doing it wrong.
Doing what wrong?

I blame the medical staff, they are inept obviously.
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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Running the club wrong. Instead of blaming "bad luck" Ranieri should be having a conversation with the club management about the ridiculous performance of the medical team.
I agree with that but I think there's more to it than just that. Maybe Ranieri is complaining but the management don't have the budget to do that. Either way the medical staff should be changed.
 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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I agree with that but I think there's more to it than just that. Maybe Ranieri is complaining but the management don't have the budget to do that. Either way the medical staff should be changed.
Right.

I think we agree on the main point though. Injuries are not handed down from the heavens, they are something you have to get under control.
 

JCK

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May 11, 2004
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Right.

I think we agree on the main point though. Injuries are not handed down from the heavens, they are something you have to get under control.
Especially this season's injuries, the player is on way to recovery and suddenly they shock us with an extension to his injury.
 

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Nov 26, 2006
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There have certainly been too many injuries to just put it all down to bad luck.

There should really be some internal investigation done into the medical staff and the club's training methods.
 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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There have certainly been too many injuries to just put it all down to bad luck.

There should really be some internal investigation done into the medical staff and the club's training methods.
Most hilarious injury saga of all was Andrade. He barely got on the pitch at all. :D
 

Cuti

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Jul 30, 2006
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Actually i heard it has something to do with the training ground, Capello had also stopped his players training there in Winter cause of the condition of the ground, which would be hard and iced up, which would lead to muscle injuries
 
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