[ITA] Serie A 2008/2009 (72 Viewers)
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...Maybe in another life....
Not so much about serie A as it is about Juve, but i was kinda provoked by Cronios' negative comments in the Molinaro thread so i will reply here instead of going completely off topic there....
On the last 11 serie A matches we managed to win 10 times and lose only once. The goal difference on these matches is 25:7.
The problem are the opening 7 rounds where we won only twice, drew 3 matches and lost 2 of them.
It all started with the Fiorentina match where we had to play without Chiellini, Sissoko, Zebina, Zanetti and Trezeguet. 5 very important players from last season weren't available for this match.
Then one by one we were losing many more players. Buffon and Camoranesi being the most important ones. Newbies like Amauri, Mellberg, Poulsen and Marchisio couldn't gel well, while players who didn't play much for us in the past (Marchionni) were given more minutes.
While we were waiting for the "new team" to gel and the players to get used to eachother, we lost many points.
After a month and a half these players finally found the chemistry and like i said, we won 10 out of 11 matches and we topped our CL group.
Now i need to ask....what if we didn't always have at least 7 injured players and at least 4 very important starters unavailable?
My guess is that we would've topped serie A, with at least 3 more wins than we have today. The good thing is that we're slowly getting the injured players back and Ranieri can put them in the starting XI one by one, without some revolution putting 4 of them in the line-up to replace half the winning team from the last 2 months.
What i wanna tell you dear doc, is that many things were obviously done right. We do have a strong team with many of the players bought by the new management playing some top class football. I'm only sorry that we had so many injuries which isn't just an excuse for not topping the table. Imo, it's the only reason for that. Such a shame really. Because we'd have been first and you'd have been, hopefully, much more positive and much more aware that it was a job well done by Ranieri and the directors.
On the last 11 serie A matches we managed to win 10 times and lose only once. The goal difference on these matches is 25:7.
The problem are the opening 7 rounds where we won only twice, drew 3 matches and lost 2 of them.
It all started with the Fiorentina match where we had to play without Chiellini, Sissoko, Zebina, Zanetti and Trezeguet. 5 very important players from last season weren't available for this match.
Then one by one we were losing many more players. Buffon and Camoranesi being the most important ones. Newbies like Amauri, Mellberg, Poulsen and Marchisio couldn't gel well, while players who didn't play much for us in the past (Marchionni) were given more minutes.
While we were waiting for the "new team" to gel and the players to get used to eachother, we lost many points.
After a month and a half these players finally found the chemistry and like i said, we won 10 out of 11 matches and we topped our CL group.
Now i need to ask....what if we didn't always have at least 7 injured players and at least 4 very important starters unavailable?
My guess is that we would've topped serie A, with at least 3 more wins than we have today. The good thing is that we're slowly getting the injured players back and Ranieri can put them in the starting XI one by one, without some revolution putting 4 of them in the line-up to replace half the winning team from the last 2 months.
What i wanna tell you dear doc, is that many things were obviously done right. We do have a strong team with many of the players bought by the new management playing some top class football. I'm only sorry that we had so many injuries which isn't just an excuse for not topping the table. Imo, it's the only reason for that. Such a shame really. Because we'd have been first and you'd have been, hopefully, much more positive and much more aware that it was a job well done by Ranieri and the directors.
And this.....
Serie A standings:
Inter
...............Juventus
Milan
Napoli
Genoa
Fiorentina
................Lazio
Palermo
Catania
Roma
Atalanta
Udinese
Cagliari
Sampdoria
Siena
Lecce
Bologna
Torino
Reggina
Chievo
Without counting us and Lazio (we didn't play them yet).....
Against the top teams we have 2-1-3 (11:9)
Against the mid-table teams we have 4-2-0 (8:2)
Against the relegation battlers we have 6-0-0 (12:2)
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Someone will say that we have the heart and the core players to beat the small and mid-table teams, but we lack quality because heart alone is not enough to beat the best teams.
It could be true but i still disagree with that. I stand by what i said in my previous post. It all has to do with the timing of these matches. We played half of the matches against the big teams at the start of the season, when due to the changes forced by injuries, we couldn't find the balance and the players were still learning how to play together. Afterall, look at our record against the mid-table teams. The only 2 matches we didn't win came at the same time, at the start of the season.
With the players back from injury, and hopefully without new injuries, things should change. Our record against the last 12 teams is great and we should repeat it, or close to it, and all that we need to change, and we will, i'm sure, is the record against the top teams. With Camo, Buffon, Zanetti and all the others back, there is a great chance we'll do better in the second part of the season and win our 30th scudetto.
Serie A standings:
Inter
...............Juventus
Milan
Napoli
Genoa
Fiorentina
................Lazio
Palermo
Catania
Roma
Atalanta
Udinese
Cagliari
Sampdoria
Siena
Lecce
Bologna
Torino
Reggina
Chievo
Without counting us and Lazio (we didn't play them yet).....
Against the top teams we have 2-1-3 (11:9)
Against the mid-table teams we have 4-2-0 (8:2)
Against the relegation battlers we have 6-0-0 (12:2)
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Someone will say that we have the heart and the core players to beat the small and mid-table teams, but we lack quality because heart alone is not enough to beat the best teams.
It could be true but i still disagree with that. I stand by what i said in my previous post. It all has to do with the timing of these matches. We played half of the matches against the big teams at the start of the season, when due to the changes forced by injuries, we couldn't find the balance and the players were still learning how to play together. Afterall, look at our record against the mid-table teams. The only 2 matches we didn't win came at the same time, at the start of the season.
With the players back from injury, and hopefully without new injuries, things should change. Our record against the last 12 teams is great and we should repeat it, or close to it, and all that we need to change, and we will, i'm sure, is the record against the top teams. With Camo, Buffon, Zanetti and all the others back, there is a great chance we'll do better in the second part of the season and win our 30th scudetto.
Which one of you mofos wrote the goal.com article about the potential scudetto winners?
The author wrote about the pros and cons for Inter, Juve and Milan to win the scudetto and among the 5 reasons he mentioned why Juve won't win the scudetto, was: Christian Molinaro.
The 5 reasons were:
1. Not enough quality
2. Playing in CL
3. Claudio Ranieri
4. Not enough creativity
5. Molinaro
I swear that only a juventuz.com member could have writen this BS.
The author wrote about the pros and cons for Inter, Juve and Milan to win the scudetto and among the 5 reasons he mentioned why Juve won't win the scudetto, was: Christian Molinaro.
The 5 reasons were:
1. Not enough quality
2. Playing in CL
3. Claudio Ranieri
4. Not enough creativity
5. Molinaro
I swear that only a juventuz.com member could have writen this BS.
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