[ITA] Serie A 2007/2008 (53 Viewers)

[swag]

it seems Milan will get the 4th place at the end , it is a matter of time IMO.

If not a little back-door politicking at the UEFA headquarters...

It's been done before. Liverpool in '05. Milan in '06...

does figo even have any clout left to make statements like this?

"Clout"? I was wondering if Figo even had a team to play on...

 

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[Dostoevsky]

Roma`s takeover became more complicated.

Sensi has 51% of Roma and Unicredit bank 49%

Now,problems is that Sensi doesn`t want to sell it even though all fans wants it to happen since they are always struggling with wages are transfer budget.With Sensi they could just lose Vucinic,Aquilani and maybe even Mexes eventually because of the :money:

They said Soros gave up but he didn`t.That Fisher dude is also around.

And now Unicredit bank wants to buy 2% of Roma shares so they could be main shareholders there.And if that happens they said they will sell it to Soros.It seems that will be the only way for Roma to be sold.

 

[Albertmare]

Big Three Fight It Out For ‘New Balotelli’


Milan, Inter and Juventus are engrossed in a fierce battle to sign 14-year-old wonderkid Adama Diakite.


The forward is currently part of the Padova youth system, and he has been tipped for greatness by those in the Calcio community.
The 14-year-old was born in the Ivory Coast, but he also holds Italian nationality, and would be eligible to play for the Azzurri in the future.

Diakite has scored 25 goals in just 19 games for the Padova youth team, and has been labelled by some as the new ‘Mario Balotelli’, due to his similarity in style to the Inter sensation (picture above).

The teenager has already trained with Juventus this season, who are desperate to snap him up.

However they face serious competition from both Inter and Milan, while a number of English clubs are also said to have been sniffing around.

:bigscarf:

 

[Elvin]

New Balotelli FFS? Already?

 

[rounder]

Wait till they start saying 'new' Dikete a few months from now.

 

[Bozi]

does not matter manure will come in and steal him away under cover of darkness unless arsene wenger gets him to join the highbury creche

 

[rounder]

Young players have never been payed so much attention too before Arsenal decided to construct a team from a bunch of kids. It's like a trend that has been passed from Arsenal to the rest of Europe.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

That's why we mustn't be obsessed with youth. We actually want to win, not like Arsenal who are always "going to win it next year."

 

[rounder]

That's what I've been trying to say for decades. It's nice to have a few young players in the squad but taking it to a different level is in no way good, in fact, it is just as bad as having an old squad like Milan. The right balance between youth and experience is the ingrediant for success, immitating Arsenal will get you absolutely nowhere.

 

[Bjerknes]

But you lot still don't understand. Manure is probably going to win the double this year... AND THEIR TEAM IS FILLED WITH YOUTH!

 

[Lion]

and they have veterans and experienced players as well. Ferdinand, Vidic, VDS, Evra, Neville, Giggs, Carrick, Scholes, Silvestre, Brown and Hargreaves. How is that team filled with youth when their starting eleven is 7 players over the age of 25?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Youth mixed with experience is the way.

Next season
Youth (23 and under)- Giovinco, Marchisio, De Ceglie, Sissoko (still very experienced though), maybe Ekhdal (or whatever his name is)

I think we have enough youth, but I wouldn't mind some established youth like Zapata, Montolivo or Aguero, or maybe an unknown player that we can risk on like Piatti.

 

[Bjerknes]

But your arguments fail when Manure's most important players - Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez - are all young players. Throw in the likes of Nani, Anderson, Carrick, and Vidic, and you have yourself some damn good starting youth.

There is nothing wrong with buying good young talents such as Anderson and have them work their way up the system and get some starts along the way. Anybody who thinks otherwise doesn't have their heads straight.

VDS

Hargreaves - Ferdinand - Vidic - Evra

Scholes - Carrick

Nani - Anderson - Ronaldo

Rooney

A young team that might be unstoppable.

If anybody thinks we can lure the likes of Gerrard or Essien or Carvalho, I'm sorry but it's not going to happen. But we CAN get youth players if we wanted to, but nah, we're idiots. Have fun settling with the likes of Stendardo and free transfers.

 

[Bjerknes]

Piatti would be a excellent choice, yes.

 

[swag]

But you lot still don't understand. Manure is probably going to win the double this year... AND THEIR TEAM IS FILLED WITH YOUTH!

I think you're mistaking a colostomy bag for youth.

 

[Lion]

But your arguments fail when Manure's most important players - Ronaldo, Rooney and Tevez - are all young players. Throw in the likes of Nani, Anderson, Carrick, and Vidic, and you have yourself some damn good starting youth.

There is nothing wrong with buying good young talents such as Anderson and have them work their way up the system and get some starts along the way. Anybody who thinks otherwise doesn't have their heads straight.

I think me and you have a different concept of young/youth players. Imo there are 2 types of youth players. A) someone is who is still raw/unfulfilled potential until the age of 22-23. in other words he is still developing and fighting for a spot to be among the big boys. B) a youth player who has achieved world class status.

You say that Man Utd's team is filled with youth. You say their 3 most important players are young players. I say that even though their team is filled with youth now, their 3 mot important players are world class players. It's not like they are running a bunch of 20 year olds from their youth academy and letting them play in their first team.

Keep in mind the fees that Man Utd paid for Rooney (31 million pounds) and Ronaldo (12 million pounds) Nani (18 million pounds ) Anderson (18 million pounds)

out of all those Anderson and Tevez are the ones who has made immediate impact, and who were already good enough to start anyway imo. None of the other players made quite an impact upoon first arriving at the club. You say their team is filled with youth players and are going to win the double. Well Keep in mind that before that, Man Utd went 4 trophy less years. They went those years because they were relying on Ronaldo (crap in his first 3 years) and Rooney (still was Raw at that time) as first team players. It's only after those terrible and awful years that Ronaldo starts performing. It's funny how you mention that you want a team filled with youth. I ask this because I wonder would you have sticked by Ronaldo for 4 years until he started fulfilling his potential? Because the way I see it, you want players like Nocerino and Palladino out because they have no end product (similar to Ronaldo's crap seasons). you judge them based on their first season with us in Serie A. Well Would you wait another year with them? What about if Giovinco doesn't perform in the next 2 season with us?

Keep in mind that we don't have as much as money as before, Andy. We can't go around like Man Utd splash 20 million euros and a kid in the hope that he will make it big, especially considering how many problems our teams has right now . Yeah sure let's buy a CHEAP youngster and bring back 3 of our own and let them develop. But we can't have a team of kids running around. We need to make a balance.

Then there is the other kind of developing youth. It is the raw kind. The Arsenal approach. And we know how many major tropies they won in their last 5 years. Imo the right kind is mix of the Man Utd (getting good young players even if it is for money) and the Barcelona approach (developing your own youth through an academy for cheap instead of splashing big money)

 

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[Bozi]

have to say that lion has a good point

 

[Zé Tahir]

Word. Good post.

 

[rounder]

But you lot still don't understand. Manure is probably going to win the double this year... AND THEIR TEAM IS FILLED WITH YOUTH!

Actually, Man U have a very good balance between experience and youth unlike Arsenal for example. That's why they have been more successful. Yes, Manure are more or less dependent on their younger players such as Ronaldo, Rooney etc.. However, as Lion pointed out, it has been their 4th season without a title and bear in mind that they have yet to win one. They could very easilly lose the league title and the champions league. At the moment, they are far from dominant.

My point really was that we should be chasing quality instead of unproven youth for the sake of becoming the next Arsenal. I'm not saying we buy a bunch of 35 year olds that can't run, I'm saying we just need to put quality first, age second. Not all youngsters turn out to be Rooney's and Messi's, some of them if not most of them turn out to be flops.

In fact, Most of the youngsters that have been bought by the likes of Manure and Chelsea are already proven players that are wanted by numerous clubs. They weren't really taking a gamble, they had the money and they bought quality with it. That's not exactly investing in youth as it is investing in proven talent. The fact that these talents were of young age was just a plus for them.

Ofcourse, I'm all for taking chances but if by taking chances, you mean spending half our transfer budget on an unproven 20 year old then I have to say no. Besides it being partially a financial problem for Juve, it is also a team problem. We have too many gaps to cover before we can go spending ridiculous amounts of money on a teenager. Sadly, we don't have the luxury Barca, United, Chelsea, or Real have.