[ITA] Serie A 2007/2008 (44 Viewers)

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JCK

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May 11, 2004
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This ill-ended fatalism does not suit you, Jack.

We were very dire yes, but we're still third and have the ability to bounce back.
We were very dire and I don't see us improving unless Camoranesi comes back to excellent shape tomorrow.

What happened to Iaquinta? Is he the new player to play 10 minutes?

I thought we stop playing Nocerino at the right, the last two games he was back to playing there.

I am not being pessimistic here, I watched Milan - Napoli and I saw much better quality in both teams, I won't mention Inter or Roma nor Fiorentina, Palermo and Udinese who are all finding form just when we are losing it.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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I dont think the situation is as bad as some make it out to be...Catania is strong at home..there arent many teams who can beat them in Sicily..i think Juventus will finish ahead of Milan..Milans lack of quality depth will hurt them in the long run..i dont think Ronaldo can keep himself fit..something that would hurt them, as they dont have a decent replacement..Fiorentina and Udinese are good teams..but they will drop a lot of points.
 

JCK

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I dont think the situation is as bad as some make it out to be...Catania is strong at home..there arent many teams who can beat them in Sicily..i think Juventus will finish ahead of Milan..Milans lack of quality depth will hurt them in the long run..i dont think Ronaldo can keep himself fit..something that would hurt them, as they dont have a decent replacement..Fiorentina and Udinese are good teams..but they will drop a lot of points.
I would like you to tell me where do Milan exactly have lack of quality depth.
 

Martin

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Dec 31, 2000
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This ill-ended fatalism does not suit you, Jack.

We were very dire yes, but we're still third and have the ability to bounce back.
Makes me recall that thread I opened during pre-season asking whether we're facing a big dip in the next few years. Jack wasn't buying it. But now? :D
 

JCK

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Makes me recall that thread I opened during pre-season asking whether we're facing a big dip in the next few years. Jack wasn't buying it. But now? :D
I am not usually a pessimist, I waited to see how things will go. At the beginning of the season I was certain that we will buy players in January and I thought it was the best approach; test the team, test the new players, strengthen in January accordingly. But apparently we are not willing to do that. Add to that the previous results that show us bring in points which is just a fake boost that the team is in good shape. So now I might agree we will end up in a dip if we don't take action as soon as possible.
 

Fred

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I would like you to tell me where do Milan exactly have lack of quality depth.
strikers?

Gilardino is terrible...he scores once every two months..Inzaghi is inconsistent and he's never fit.

Fullbacks?

Favalli and Serginho are past it..Bonera is utter shit..even though he played well today
 

Dominic

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Jan 30, 2004
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We were very dire and I don't see us improving unless Camoranesi comes back to excellent shape tomorrow.
Yes, Camoranesi's return will be crucial. Having said that, we were forced to do without him for most of the season and we managed to do so quite well - we are in third position.

What happened to Iaquinta? Is he the new player to play 10 minutes?
Yes, it's strange that Ranieri has gone from making Iaquinta a started earlier in the season to a minor sub the past two games. It might just be a momentary thing though and hopefully he'll be in the line-up again starting this week. Another point that adds to the factor of being able to bounce back, we still have an ace up our sleeves in Iaquinta.

I thought we stop playing Nocerino at the right, the last two games he was back to playing there.
To be fair, it worked quite well against Siena and Lazio. Nocerino, at least that's how it seems to me, was fielded exactly like Gattuso is fielded normally. A central midfielder, slightly on the right, because of the diamond formation. Salihamidzic was supposed to provide width. Sadly one, and thus both of them did not fullfill their tasks against Catania.

I am not being pessimistic here, I watched Milan - Napoli and I saw much better quality in both teams, I won't mention Inter or Roma nor Fiorentina, Palermo and Udinese who are all finding form just when we are losing it.
Yes, Milan have a lot of quality in their team. Have you also watched all of their other home games this season though? All teams have their vulnrabilities, not just us.

Inter and Roma have superiour squads. Though I still reckon Roma is within reach. Fiorentina could provide a challenge, but player for player we should still be easily superiour. We killed Palermo and Udinese will not keep the pace. That we are losing form, also means that there is a lot of room for improvement. It means we have the potential to do much better still.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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I was looking at the schedule and in the next 4 weeks we have a good chance to "eliminate" Udinese from the CL fight and make difference between us and Fiorentina and Milan.

In next 3 rounds we play Sampdoria-H, Livorno-A, Cagliari-H while Udinese have Milan-H, Inter-H and Napoli-A

Then a direct encounter between us and Udinese in Udine.

Fiorentina have a match against Milan and a tough away match to Atalanta while Milan have 8 matches to play in the next month.

I hope we won't blow this chance !
 

JCK

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strikers?

Gilardino is terrible...he scores once every two months..Inzaghi is inconsistent and he's never fit.

Fullbacks?

Favalli and Serginho are past it..Bonera is utter shit..even though he played well today
Ronaldo scored twice today, isn't this enough for him to regain confidence. Pato was on the sheet and why do you want more strikers when you have three midfielders in Kaka, Seedorf and Pirlo who can score any time from any spot?

I agree about Milan's defense as the weakest link but one and only one addition would see them fixing that department once and for all.
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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Ronaldo scored twice today, isn't this enough for him to regain confidence. Pato was on the sheet and why do you want more strikers when you have three midfielders in Kaka, Seedorf and Pirlo who can score any time from any spot?

I agree about Milan's defense as the weakest link but one and only one addition would see them fixing that department once and for all.
Ronaldo is going to get injured again..the guy just cant seem to keep his fitness..


hy do you want more strikers when you have three midfielders in Kaka, Seedorf and Pirlo who can score any time from any spot?
If that was indeed the case, they wouldnt have struggled so much in the first half of the season...where there problem was scoring goals.
 

Dominic

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Jan 30, 2004
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Ronaldo scored twice today, isn't this enough for him to regain confidence. Pato was on the sheet and why do you want more strikers when you have three midfielders in Kaka, Seedorf and Pirlo who can score any time from any spot?
Ronaldo is hardly able to play a full 45 minutes though. He was completely exhausted after the first half. Chances are he'll get injured before regaining full-match fitness. Also, Napoli's defending is very poor. The Milan players got way too much space to think and act, the napoli players lacked aggresion and assertiveness.

Having Kaka, Seedorf and Pirlo in one midfield IS amazing, but it allowed Napoli to walk through their mifield quite easily on many occasions.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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Confidence was never Ronaldo's problem. The injuries were.

Jack, Milan are EURO champs and they had and have much stronger team than us. I don't know why should we start panicking about their team. They won CL , they have the money, it was a sure bet that they'll end up in top 4, even though they started awful.
But then again, they do lack squad depth. No other top team in the world has such gap in quality between the first and the second team. That's one of the biggest reasons why they're doing bad in serie A two seasons in a row.

Our worry isn't Milan, it's Udinese and Fiorentina.
 

Esteban

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Mar 6, 2005
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You've gotta be impressed by Pato's performance today even though Napoli's way of treating him was very disappointing. Instead of putting pressure when he had the ball at his feet they opted to wait thus allowing him lots of space, and he was not late to convert.

If we are to go by this performance alone this kid is a potential massive player, but I'll wait to pass my verdict until I've seen him against better organized defences.

Disgusted by Napoli's weak defence and disgusted by this weekend's results in Serie A. :yuck:
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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Some of you would probably laugh. But 10points in football isn't much. Some are predicting that we'll be out of Europe chairs others disagree with them. What I can say is that If we play with the same determination and spirit that we had at the beg of the season we're up to it and who knows, we all know when Inter start loosing points.

Inter will be dropping points, it's up to us to use them well. That said, with some players back in action lets not think of the 3rd or 4th place but run after Roma and Inter.

If we'll keep saying that we're out of title race and we have no chance then that wouldn't really help. To me we're not out of the title race until Inter are couple of matches away from it.

Lets win our next games.
 

Stephan

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Nov 9, 2005
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I always thought myself that the winter break came in a wrong time. Milan got the advantage. The time to regroup.

Our advantage over the likes of udinese and viola is that we have certain players who rise for occasion, more individually spirited players, beside the experience. But when it comes to performance, we aint really that far ahead (and i am not talking about last evenings game). Its clear we lack in creativity and its still uncertain who really deserves the starting spot in certain positions.
 

Vinman

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Jul 16, 2002
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Man did Milan look dangerous today....I think we found the team that will unseat us for 3rd place...maybe even second

If their defense holds up (they need a defender in the transfer window), and if Ronaldo and company stay injury-free, then they are going to be very hard to beat the rest of the way

I am looking forward to a great battle in the CL between Milan and Arsenal
 
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