[ITA] Serie a 2006-07 (10 Viewers)

gray

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Apr 22, 2003
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Badass Devil said:
lmao at milan 1-0 down to atalanta

jees just shows the sh*teness rivals for the scudetto, its now a matter of how soon binter will win it, not if
and Arsenal just lost to West Ham. This could be a good night for me :D
 

Badass J Elkann

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Feb 12, 2006
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sateeh said:
although they piss me off , i still have some faith in roma and a bit of hope for Palermo

bah serie A was designed for binter to win the league with a huge advantage, even comming first is meaningless, let alone the scudetto which is worthless now its in the hands of the paper champions.

as zoff said:

serie A - Juventus vs napoli
 

AngelaL

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Aug 25, 2006
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Badass Devil said:
bah serie A was designed for binter to win the league with a huge advantage, even comming first is meaningless, let alone the scudetto which is worthless now its in the hands of the paper champions.

as zoff said:

serie A - Juventus vs napoli
:agree: Especially with moratti in charge of Figc: serie A is rubbish.
 

Alltagsheld

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Oct 10, 2006
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Badass Devil said:
bah serie A was designed for binter to win the league with a huge advantage, even comming first is meaningless, let alone the scudetto which is worthless now its in the hands of the paper champions.

as zoff said:

serie A - Juventus vs napoli
Let's hope for Palermo anyway :) :) :) .
 

djleli

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Aug 12, 2004
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true serie a this year i one massive shit hole and so will it be next year the quality has dropped imensly.... hopefuly this will be a good time for new italian talents to be found, as juve are doing so are other clubs doing due to financial crisis
 

Jun-hide

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Dec 16, 2002
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djleli said:
true serie a this year i one massive shit hole and so will it be next year the quality has dropped imensly.... hopefuly this will be a good time for new italian talents to be found, as juve are doing so are other clubs doing due to financial crisis
IMO Inter and Milan is still one of the best sides in the world ATM - I believe their quality match those of Chelsea, and Barca. The problem is that the contenders quality dropped off signifcantly.

I really like some parts of Roma but unless they can get a attacking player of real penetrating ability and class, they are going to struggle against quality opposition as they did against Inter. Pizarro puts good crosses in but he does it from so deep and the general flow of their attack is so predictable. The fact that Roma scored 3 and missed hatfull of chances is a testament of shocking level of defendsive on display tonight.

Fiorentina too have many good components but most importantly they need to strenghten their central midfield. Players such as Montolovio, Pazzini, Jorgensen, Santana, Mutu, Toni are class players but they need distribution to maximize their abilities. A trio of Donadel, Liverani, and Blasi arent going to cut it - Even if Liverani can deliver something special out of nothing at times.

On a positive side, most Italian sides are based on the "home-grown talents" despite the fact that Italian league unlike a decade ago allows team to legally field a team of all foreigners - the fact of which have not been missed by Inter. There is definetely an elment of economic aspects involved because teams are finding it tough to finance high quality stranieri due to inequality in distribution of revenues. But more importantly, teams can still look for a bargain hunt in Argentina, Brazil, or Africa where quality players are as scarce as clean water is in Swiss, or sunlight in Spain. It comes to show the general increase in the standard of Italian players and I really do think once the league can get out of its financial mess and bring some stability into teams with refurbishment on the existing stadium - Serie A is ready for a take off.
 

sateeh

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Jul 28, 2003
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Jun-hide said:
IMO Inter and Milan is still one of the best sides in the world ATM - I believe their quality match those of Chelsea, and Barca. The problem is that the contenders quality dropped off signifcantly.

I really like some parts of Roma but unless they can get a attacking player of real penetrating ability and class, they are going to struggle against quality opposition as they did against Inter. Pizarro puts good crosses in but he does it from so deep and the general flow of their attack is so predictable. The fact that Roma scored 3 and missed hatfull of chances is a testament of shocking level of defendsive on display tonight.

Fiorentina too have many good components but most importantly they need to strenghten their central midfield. Players such as Montolovio, Pazzini, Jorgensen, Santana, Mutu, Toni are class players but they need distribution to maximize their abilities. A trio of Donadel, Liverani, and Blasi arent going to cut it - Even if Liverani can deliver something special out of nothing at times.

On a positive side, most Italian sides are based on the "home-grown talents" despite the fact that Italian league unlike a decade ago allows team to legally field a team of all foreigners - the fact of which have not been missed by Inter. There is definetely an elment of economic aspects involved because teams are finding it tough to finance high quality stranieri due to inequality in distribution of revenues. But more importantly, teams can still look for a bargain hunt in Argentina, Brazil, or Africa where quality players are as scarce as clean water is in Swiss, or sunlight in Spain. It comes to show the general increase in the standard of Italian players and I really do think once the league can get out of its financial mess and bring some stability into teams with refurbishment on the existing stadium - Serie A is ready for a take off.
-I dont think the Italian team r still great forces on the European stage. The histroy will always be there for them same goes financially. But form wise i dont think so.
Inter r struggled against all the teams the played against in. The only Big team they played was Bayern and they just blew them away(although Bayern didnt play that well themselves). They risk not reaching the 2nd round ffs.

Milan were helped immensely by the draw, even though they have been unlucky.But i dont see them beating any of the big guns, unless there are some changes in january.

Roma dont care abt Europe.

-Ofcourse italy would be better if the financial situation improved as the talent is there from home grown players.However i dont think there will ever be stability in Italy when it comes to finances.
 

Jun-hide

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Dec 16, 2002
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I have to disagree sateeh here.

I have seen Milan play against Anderlect - and it is not just the result - their performance was just breath-taking. They may not be scoring goals in Serie A because Serie A teams will not venture against them, but in Europe where teams are more adventurous - Milan's technical class makes all the difference. Kaka gets that extra space in the European stage - and he arguably the best player in the world - and hence he shines whenever there is a little space to create.
Defence is solid with Nesta in a commanding form this year when he is not injured and Jankulovski is truly back to his best and whipping in world-class crosses for attackers to attack. There aren't many full-back parings better than Milan despite Cafu and Jank's age and Nest - Maldini partnership is class personified - if they can play together. Most importantly though, there are so many X-factors in the team. Young Gourcuff oozes with class, and as Arsenal had to rely on unknown to sustain their run in Europe - sometimes teams have to rely on elements that are perhaps not known - and Milan got a jewel in making with their pettite Zizou. Furthermore, Gila's not going to carry on his current abysmal run of form because the man knows where the goal is and he certainly has forgotten how to score in a matter of couple of months. Gilan, IMO, is world-class with his clever litte tricks inside the box, ability to protect the ball, and goal poaching awareness - and we should not underestimate his calibre.

If anythingelse, my biggest concern for Milan is their health. The players are old and one must wonder whether they can keep up with the arduous schedule at the end of season. They strenghten their depth in respect, but Bonera just isnt Cafu whatever way you look at it. But taking into consideration possible X-factor in Gourcuff, Gila, Oliveira (Though He is utter crap for 14m sterling pounds), and their general technical class - I can't see any team better than Milan bar Chelski and Barca.

I think it is unfair to judge Inter based on the past European matches. Their evidently off-form at the time and their really blew the game against Bayern due to some unbelievably bad refereeing decisions. They didnt play well but I dont think Bayern did quite enough to win it. I feel it was one of the events where good teams both cancelling each other out. And they showed plenty of grit to get back into contention by winning both games against Spartack. The midfield has shown plenty of promise (which is normally the weakness in Inter side) and despite my obvious antagonism to their attacking players - they are all world class. I consider them to be a bit more attacking version of us last season - that could make all the differences. Stankovic looks like a good candidate for a balon d`ore IMO. However, I fee their approach is too Italian to do well in CL proper. Lets not forget Liverpool were a minute away from elimination against Olympiakos in a group made up of Depor, Monaco and Olympiakos. You can't judge teams purely based on the performances at group stage - Its all about hitting the form at the right time at right place.

Well, I like Roma's midfield but as mentioned before they havent got enough penetrating players to break quality defence. Last 8 is probably their realistic target and beyond anything bonus.
 

sateeh

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Jul 28, 2003
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Jun-hide said:
I have to disagree sateeh here.

I have seen Milan play against Anderlect - and it is not just the result - their performance was just breath-taking. They may not be scoring goals in Serie A because Serie A teams will not venture against them, but in Europe where teams are more adventurous - Milan's technical class makes all the difference. Kaka gets that extra space in the European stage - and he arguably the best player in the world - and hence he shines whenever there is a little space to create.
Defence is solid with Nesta in a commanding form this year when he is not injured and Jankulovski is truly back to his best and whipping in world-class crosses for attackers to attack. There aren't many full-back parings better than Milan despite Cafu and Jank's age and Nest - Maldini partnership is class personified - if they can play together. Most importantly though, there are so many X-factors in the team. Young Gourcuff oozes with class, and as Arsenal had to rely on unknown to sustain their run in Europe - sometimes teams have to rely on elements that are perhaps not known - and Milan got a jewel in making with their pettite Zizou. Furthermore, Gila's not going to carry on his current abysmal run of form because the man knows where the goal is and he certainly has forgotten how to score in a matter of couple of months. Gilan, IMO, is world-class with his clever litte tricks inside the box, ability to protect the ball, and goal poaching awareness - and we should not underestimate his calibre.

If anythingelse, my biggest concern for Milan is their health. The players are old and one must wonder whether they can keep up with the arduous schedule at the end of season. They strenghten their depth in respect, but Bonera just isnt Cafu whatever way you look at it. But taking into consideration possible X-factor in Gourcuff, Gila, Oliveira (Though He is utter crap for 14m sterling pounds), and their general technical class - I can't see any team better than Milan bar Chelski and Barca.

I think it is unfair to judge Inter based on the past European matches. Their evidently off-form at the time and their really blew the game against Bayern due to some unbelievably bad refereeing decisions. They didnt play well but I dont think Bayern did quite enough to win it. I feel it was one of the events where good teams both cancelling each other out. And they showed plenty of grit to get back into contention by winning both games against Spartack. The midfield has shown plenty of promise (which is normally the weakness in Inter side) and despite my obvious antagonism to their attacking players - they are all world class. I consider them to be a bit more attacking version of us last season - that could make all the differences. Stankovic looks like a good candidate for a balon d`ore IMO. However, I fee their approach is too Italian to do well in CL proper. Lets not forget Liverpool were a minute away from elimination against Olympiakos in a group made up of Depor, Monaco and Olympiakos. You can't judge teams purely based on the performances at group stage - Its all about hitting the form at the right time at right place.

Well, I like Roma's midfield but as mentioned before they havent got enough penetrating players to break quality defence. Last 8 is probably their realistic target and beyond anything bonus.
we agree abt most points about Milan, there is the possibility they could do something in both Europe and the league.But as u mentioned their "health" is the biggest concern. This squad can't go long imo, they dont have proper replacements in 2 out of the three lines. They will need Reinforcements in January to be competitave.
You compared their squad to Barca and Chelsea, imo Lyon and Man U Real r almost there.

Abt Inter, we agree that Bayern didnt play well against but they still won and that wat counts. I will emphasize on their defence and overall concentration. They seem to always be under pressure even against smaller teams.
It doesnt take much to break them down, and if you want to do well its essential to have a solid defence. They dont have that imo.
Their midfield and attack r one of the best in Europe and if it had the cohesiveness of Milan it would be the best in Italy.

Roma-as u said, next round could be it for them unless they get a favourable draw which is hard unless they come in 1st
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
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Badass Devil said:
no pedigree left in serie A its gone bk to the dark ages, its by far the worst division in the world, a division whos best team is binter? jees that says it all for me. a division where comming 3rd earns u the title, first place for relegation and 20th keeps u alive.

:lol:

Exactly, Serie A has always been competitive and something special, but this season is special shit.
 

Marc

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Jul 14, 2006
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m_elayyan said:
Forza Palermo , i hope they stay in this form

They won´t, FIGC will deduct their points when they come close to Scudetto for some stupid reason like shaking hands with a referee.
 

Marc

Softcore Juventino
Jul 14, 2006
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I´m scared that Inter bastards will never allow us to be the best and dominating Italian Club like we used to be.

I know we will be back this year, but question is what will be for three or four years?
 

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