[ITA] Coppa Italia 2014/2015 (16 Viewers)

[Alex-444]

Vincenzo Montella felt Fiorentina “more than fully deserved” to beat Roma 2-0 in the Coppa Italia quarter-final.

This is the first time Montella has ever beaten Roma as an opposition Coach after three draws and six defeats.

“It was a great performance and I saw a Fiorentina side that was superior to Roma in both halves, so the victory is more than fully deserved,” he told Rai Sport.


Mario Gomez bagged a brace, his fourth goal in two Coppa Italia games signalling a return to form, while Alessandro Diamanti is filling Juan Cuadrado’s shoes.

“We expect this from Gomez, as we know he’s lethal inside the box. He doesn’t always have to participate in the build-up, as he is fundamental in the penalty area. Mario needed confidence and has now totally burst through that block.

“Diamanti has real character, even if he is different to Cuadrado. He has immense talent and we have to make the most of it.

“We must have ambition and look forward, but so far we’ve done what we expected to this season. I am proud to be at the helm of this great team, made up of special people.”

While the Viola progress to take on Juventus in the semi-finals, Montella’s old club Roma are in crisis.

“A wobble can happen. In situations like this you do risk defeat, but Roma remain a great squad.

 

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[zizinho]

btw is Klin somehow blaming Beppe for Roma being $#@!?

he is making his usual "weak Serie A" statement he comes up with whenever Roma fails...

 

[Post Ironic]

I'd say Pereyra, Padoin, Evra & Morata, Caceres and even Ogbonna have played quite a lot this season. The only ones who haven't were Romulo (injured), Pepe (Pepe) and Giovinco (time used for Coman).

Without these infamous depth acquisitions, we'd have been $#@!ed this season.
Doesn't mean we didn't overpay/pick the wrong player in the cases of Pereyra or Ogbonna, but it's riducoulus to what extent our focus on depth gets critised after this season especially.

People are going full retard on this right now. Some people are going to be mighty pissed if we beat BvB.

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he is making his usual "weak Serie A" statement he comes up with whenever Roma fails...

Serie A is weak. That's pretty obvious. For the 2nd year in a row there is one Serie A team in CL Rof16. Pathetic.

However, we're still the no 4 league in the world, without any danger of dropping anytime soon. And our bench signings have done quite well for us, in helping Allegri rotate our squad, and deal with injuries, which we've had many of this year.

Klin just needs to go back on his meds asap.

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And Rudi Garcia opens his big fat mouth again.

Garcia: 'Roma gave their all'
By Football Italia staff

Rudi Garcia maintains Roma “gave all they had at their disposal” against Fiorentina and must focus on other objectives.

It has been a disastrous start to 2015, drawing four consecutive Serie A games and crashing out of the Coppa 2-0 on home turf.

“We played a good first half, but that is not sufficient to win,” the Coach told Rai Sport.
“Fiorentina scored at their first opportunity, but that’s football. Being clinical, especially in a knockout game, is important. I have nothing to say to my lads, as they gave all they had at their disposal tonight.

“We are conceding too many goals at the moment and aren’t very sharp in attack. We also have fewer choices at our disposal.

“I was forced to play Ibarbo, who hasn’t played for a month and a half and only had one training session with us. He is the positive note from today.

“Now we have to get straight back to work. We have Serie A and the Europa League, those are the only two things left.”

The Giallorossi are now only four points clear of Napoli and seven behind leaders Juventus in Serie A.

“You can see the squad knows there are problems, so players take fewer risks. They don’t feel confident. We have to win at Cagliari to turn the tide and try to get luck going our way again. Then the absentees will return and we’ll be stronger. We need to be more solid in defence and more clinical in attack.”

After the final whistle the Curva Sud called the players over and hurled insults, demanding they put more grit and determination into their performances.

“I want to underline that the Curva Sud encouraged the team for the whole game. That was a wonderful thing,” insisted Garcia.

“The fans are disappointed, as are we, but they can rest assured we will get straight back to work for a return to winning ways.

“I did not expect so many problems with injuries, though we did of course expect to be without the African Cup of Nations players. We could’ve done with a little more luck.

“Although we went close to qualification, we finished third in the Champions League group, as expected. I thought we’d see more organisation and hunger, but that’s not the case right now.

“You can tell the quality of a squad in moments of difficulty, not when everything is going well. In that sense, I am reassured. We will fight to win the next game, awaiting the full-strength Roma.”

 

[zizinho]

Serie A is weak. That's pretty obvious. For the 2nd year in a row there is one Serie A team in CL Rof16. Pathetic.

However, we're still the no 4 league in the world, without any danger of dropping anytime soon. And our bench signings have done quite well for us, in helping Allegri rotate our squad, and deal with injuries, which we've had many of this year.

Klin just needs to go back on his meds asap.

it is the 4th strongest league as you said. it is not as strong as it should be but it is also not as weak as some people try to present it. Roma gave us quite a challenge last season, we didnt secure the scudetto up until last few matchdays. in CL Napoli screwed up this season, Roma couldnt do more from pot 4. last season we screwed up, Napoli had a though group similar to Roma this year. so a few unlucky draws, a few surprising results and there you have it. only one team in the last 16. but youre right. there are 3 leagues stronger than serie a at the moment and unless some serious changes are made it will stay that way

 

[Ocelot]

it is the 4th strongest league as you said. it is not as strong as it should be but it is also not as weak as some people try to present it. Roma gave us quite a challenge last season, we didnt secure the scudetto up until last few matchdays. in CL Napoli screwed up this season, Roma couldnt do more from pot 4. last season we screwed up, Napoli had a though group similar to Roma this year. so a few unlucky draws, a few surprising results and there you have it. only one team in the last 16. but youre right. there are 3 leagues stronger than serie a at the moment and unless some serious changes are made it will stay that way

Yep.

Roma last season also could play to a higher standard in the league than they normally would due to them not playing any European competition. This means that while the level of competitions they posed was greater than their actual quality, and that the difficulty for us to win it was greater than it would have been normally given the strengths of the teams.
This doesn't mean that we weren't favourites, we were by far (and we also won with quite a margin), but it's also not fair to compare the performances of Roma last year and this season, without taking this into account.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Roma also had a difficult group in the CL this year. Harder than the Schalke and Bayer imo. I think they would've made it through if they were switched with one of them, that Bayern game really messed them up.

 

[zizinho]

Yep.

Roma last season also could play to a higher standard in the league than they normally would due to them not playing any European competition. This means that while the level of competitions they posed was greater than their actual quality, and that the difficulty for us to win it was greater than it would have been normally given the strengths of the teams.
This doesn't mean that we weren't favourites, we were by far (and we also won with quite a margin), but it's also not fair to compare the performances of Roma last year and this season, without taking this into account.

about this season, they arent doing that bad IMO. after 19 games they had 41 points and if they can replicate that (they didnt start well into the 2nd half of the season but to be fair they are/were without Gervinho and Keita) they would still get over 80 pts which isnt bad for a 2nd placed team (we would probably get to over 90 again). in the CL they could still have qualified until the last matchday and 3rd place with Bayern and City ahead is not bad either. all in all, they handled the Serie A/CL situation better than i expected

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Roma also had a difficult group in the CL this year. Harder than the Schalke and Bayer imo. I think they would've made it through if they were switched with one of them, that Bayern game really messed them up.

i think they would made it in the Liverpool group too if they were instead of them. Arsenal also didnt have a group they couldnt make IMO

 

[Lorenzo Juve]

Roma peaked last year. It's just going to keep going downhill as they sell their players and as the Milan clubs eventually get back on their feet. They could still fight for 2nd place for the next two seasons or so, but as I said, they've already peaked.

 

[Lion]

i lol at that piece of filth klin. he loves to talk about how weak serie a is. how the league is secured. how no toher team poses a threat

here is the league table for bundesliga for the past 2 seasons.

2013-2014 Games points

1 Bayern Munich (C) 34 90
2 Borussia Dortmund 34 71
3 Schalke 04 34 64

2012-2013 games points
1 Bayern Munich (C) 34 91
2 Borussia Dortmund 34 66
3 Bayer Leverkusen 34 65

so @Klin. pls do everyone a favor and stfu.

 

[lgorTudor]

2012-2013 games points
1 Bayern Munich (C) 34 91
2 Borussia Dortmund 34 66
3 Bayer Leverkusen 34 65

so @Klin. pls do everyone a favor and stfu.

Well Bayern won the Champions League so maybe, only maybe, being 25pts behind Bayern not as weak for a league as being 25 pts behind a team that worries about CL 1/8.

 

[Bianconero81]

i lol at that piece of filth klin. he loves to talk about how weak serie a is. how the league is secured. how no toher team poses a threat

here is the league table for bundesliga for the past 2 seasons.

2013-2014 Games points

1 Bayern Munich (C) 34 90
2 Borussia Dortmund 34 71
3 Schalke 04 34 64

2012-2013 games points
1 Bayern Munich (C) 34 91
2 Borussia Dortmund 34 66
3 Bayer Leverkusen 34 65

so @Klin. pls do everyone a favor and stfu.

Statistics. What a steaming pile of shit. Bayern and Dortmund only contested the final 2 years ago; 2 Bundesliga teams in the final. When was the last time a Serie A team even made it to the Semis?

 

[Lion]

except dortmund was in that final as well. jus shows uthat it isn't as great as people make it to be.

also i dont buy the whole won the cl thing. many teams have finished second third, fourth and fifth in their league and won the cl. winning the cl doesnt mean u are the best team in the country. winning the league does.

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Statistics. What a steaming pile of shit. Bayern and Dortmund only contested the final 2 years ago; 2 Bundesliga teams in the final. When was the last time a Serie A team even made it to the Semis?

oh so glad to see the excuses already popping up

binter won the cl in 2010.

and genius, the league is in state of rebuilding. u and ur posse of clowns that include klin love to remind everyone how weak serie a is and how pathetic our transfers are, yet u want change to happen overnight. just shows utterly stupid u are. srsly u are like children. and thus u will be talked to like one. understand?

 

[Bianconero81]

oh so glad to see the excuses already popping up

binter won the cl in 2010.

and genius, the league is in state of rebuilding. u and ur posse of clowns that include klin love to remind everyone how weak serie a is and how pathetic our transfers are, yet u want change to happen overnight. just shows utterly stupid u are. srsly u are like children. and thus u will be talked to like one. understand?

I don't have a posse, and those stats you posted prove nothing. Bayern were completely dominant that year (2012-2013 season), destroying everyone and everything in sight.

Serie A is most definitely in a rebuilding phase, but it isn't an attractive prospect anymore, and these aren't my words you ginormous ignoramus.

You are the petulant child who can't see beyond his own bias, resorting to statistics, as if they are the definitive indicator. Very short sighted and foolish, just like most of your posts.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

Statistics. What a steaming pile of shit. Bayern and Dortmund only contested the final 2 years ago; 2 Bundesliga teams in the final. When was the last time a Serie A team even made it to the Semis?

That doesn't look like it's going to be happening again for a while though.

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about this season, they arent doing that bad IMO. after 19 games they had 41 points and if they can replicate that (they didnt start well into the 2nd half of the season but to be fair they are/were without Gervinho and Keita) they would still get over 80 pts which isnt bad for a 2nd placed team (we would probably get to over 90 again). in the CL they could still have qualified until the last matchday and 3rd place with Bayern and City ahead is not bad either. all in all, they handled the Serie A/CL situation better than i expected

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i think they would made it in the Liverpool group too if they were instead of them. Arsenal also didnt have a group they couldnt make IMO

Maybe there too. But in the extremely likely scenario that Madrid gave them a similar mauling, I think they would be just as equally shattered. They don't seem to be very strong mentally in the slightest .

 

[Lion]

I don't have a posse, and those stats you posted prove nothing. Bayern were completely dominant that year (2012-2013 season), destroying everyone and everything in sight.

Serie A is most definitely in a rebuilding phase, but it isn't an attractive prospect anymore, and these aren't my words you ginormous ignoramus.

You are the petulant child who can't see beyond his own bias, resorting to statistics, as if they are the definitive indicator. Very short sighted and foolish, just like most of your posts.

lol did not read false post

 

[zizinho]

Maybe there too. But in the extremely likely scenario that Madrid gave them a similar mauling, I think they would be just as equally shattered. They don't seem to be very strong mentally in the slightest .

im confident they are able to beat Basel at home while beating Ludogorets twice. Liverpool lost their chance after drawing away in Bulgaria. they had only one win and 2 draws in 4 games against Basel and Ludogorets. Roma would definitely do better IMO

 

[blondu]

except dortmund was in that final as well. jus shows uthat it isn't as great as people make it to be.

also i dont buy the whole won the cl thing. many teams have finished second third, fourth and fifth in their league and won the cl. winning the cl doesnt mean u are the best team in the country. winning the league does.

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oh so glad to see the excuses already popping up

binter won the cl in 2010.

and genius, the league is in state of rebuilding. u and ur posse of clowns that include klin love to remind everyone how weak serie a is and how pathetic our transfers are, yet u want change to happen overnight. just shows utterly stupid u are. srsly u are like children. and thus u will be talked to like one. understand?

sorry man but i don't see reconstruct in any team except roma. i want to see 3,4 new stadiums and maybe then with 3,4 sheiks the italian football will fourish again. too bad italy didn't got the 2020.

 

[zizinho]

sorry man but i don't see reconstruct in any team except roma. i want to see 3,4 new stadiums and maybe then with 3,4 sheiks the italian football will fourish again. too bad italy didn't got the 2020.

germans did it without sheiks. its all about having a good project and executing it

 

[blondu]

germans did it without sheiks. its all about having a good project and executing it

bayern always had tons of money...dortmund was a fluke..just like porto, or leverkusen. their incompetence is shown now. no top club would be on that position after having such performances in cl. germany has new stadiums, great and crazy fans...i remember hamburg had like 50 consecutive home games fully attended.

 

[zizinho]

bayern always had tons of money...dortmund was a fluke..just like porto, or leverkusen. their incompetence is shown now. no top club would be on that position after having such performances in cl. germany has new stadiums, great and crazy fans...i remember hamburg had like 50 consecutive home games fully attended.

Milan Inter and us always had tons of money....

im talking about the whole league. they rebuilt their stadiums, reformed their youth systems (and are now producing tons of young players), clubs have great relationships with their fans > always full stadiums and great atmosphere....