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Alen

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I disagree. Rosina's got a lot more than running. He's technically superb. Fast, strong, with great technique and vision. He had all the ingredients needed to become a great football player but it seems like the problem is in his head and he'll never become great simply because he's too stupid and too much of an egoist.
 

Osman

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Indeed, he is NOT talentless speedster ala Odonkor (really retarded comparison), on the contrary, he is very well equipped as a player (mean shot, good freekicks, excellent vision and technique, quick, fine dribbling etc). How he uses his fine qualities is the issue, he is way too raw and bit of a headless chicken in mentality. To the point in overall being just above average player in impact and effectiveness.

What he showed in 2006-2007 and now is quite different, really clear case of what players can become, quite a flop, and how raw talent alone isnt enough. He has still little hope, if he leaves Torino and finds another venue to kick start his game.
 
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    I disagree. Rosina's got a lot more than running. He's technically superb. Fast, strong, with great technique and vision. He had all the ingredients needed to become a great football player but it seems like the problem is in his head and he'll never become great simply because he's too stupid and too much of an egoist.
    Technically superb? great vision? That's something my friend.
     

    Alen

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    Well, if you haven't noticed that by yourself then there is no need to discuss about him.
    But he isn't called Rosinaldo just like that. It's indeed his great technique that made people call him like that :)
    I believe he's among top10 most technical players in serie A and he does have a very good vision. He's fast, he dribbles at full speed, which is very rare in this league.
    Do you remember Torino-Milan from earlier this season? That's what everyone expected from him only few years ago. Because he has the talent to be on top but something's wrong in his head. He's not using his talents smartly and consistently and that's why not only that he doesn't develop but he seems frustrated and he plays even worse than he was in the previous years.

    I don't think he'll ever be on top and considered one of the best, which is a shame because he certainly has the talent to make it there.
     

    Osman

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    Shooting technique, dribbling technique, or passing, he is superb in overall.

    as Alen said, if one hasnt noticed it, not much to say. But for example, how isnt this goal an excellent show of technique?

     
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    Well, if you haven't noticed that by yourself then there is no need to discuss about him.
    But he isn't called Rosinaldo just like that. It's indeed his great technique that made people call him like that :)
    I believe he's among top10 most technical players in serie A and he does have a very good vision. He's fast, he dribbles at full speed, which is very rare in this league.
    Do you remember Torino-Milan from earlier this season? That's what everyone expected from him only few years ago. Because he has the talent to be on top but something's wrong in his head. He's not using his talents smartly and consistently and that's why not only that he doesn't develop but he seems frustrated and he plays even worse than he was in the previous years.

    I don't think he'll ever be on top and considered one of the best, which is a shame because he certainly has the talent to make it there.
    Torino are the most team I have followed this season right after Juventus and Inter. I've watched too many matches of them and I don't re-call him being anywhere close to having great vision and being technically superb.

    So If he's called Rosinaldo it turns him into another player he isn't? This doesn't sound right. Because I can give you players that have been silly nicknamed or comparing them to legends or even saying he's the next this or that. Yet in fact they're nothing, up till now.

    He's fast? Yes he is. But other than that I don't see anything special in him. He fits perfectly for Torino that said.

    And if he indeed has something wrong in his head but he's that great as you describe him he would still make it to bigger team. Ibrahimovic's head isn't any better than him yet he made it. Cassano is even worse yet he made it to Real Madrid, Roma. etc...

    He's ok for Torino not more.
     

    Alen

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    Like i said, not much to discuss if you really didn't notice how talented he is.
    And i doubt you've seen a lot of him this season, even if you watched all Toro matches.
     
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    Like i said, not much to discuss if you really didn't notice how talented he is.
    And i doubt you've seen a lot of him this season, even if you watched all Toro matches.
    Seriously what talent are you talking about? Playing one decent match vs Milan? Impressing Lippi or Donadoni? Torino having too many offers for their man?

    Trust me I've seen a lot of him Alen. It's just that I don't know the key to your "notice" word.
     

    Osman

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    He has ALOT of flaws, but lack of talent and skill isnt one of them.

    and I dont get the Zlatan bit, he doesnt have any issues mentality that stops him from excelling, on the contrary, his personality and way of thinking has made him the successful player he is.

    Cassano is whole another case though, total nut. Rosina isnt, but really has issues with how to function and use his skills to benifite the whole team, mainly just way too simplistic and bit dumb in his approach. Goes for ze glory bit too much.
     
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    Osman, I'm not even going to comment on one youtube link. Please, we're not playing these games.
     
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    He has ALOT of flaws, but lack of talent and skill isnt one of them.

    and I dont get the Zlatan bit, he doesnt have any issues mentality that stops him from excelling, on the contrary, his personality and way of thinking has made him the successful player he is.

    Cassano is whole another case though, total nut. Rosina isnt, but really has issues with how to function and use his skills to benifite the whole team, mainly just way too simplistic and bit dumb in his approach. Goes for ze glory bit too much.
    Define a lot?

    So what "mentally" issues does Rosina have exactly? Personality way of thinking? How can you discover his personality way of thinking in a 90min football game?

    You can notice him being unprofessional, lacking class, unless you're a doctor and the man has been your patient for some time now.

    No player has a problem using his skills to benefit my friend, no player. Though I don't know what do you mean by functioning.
     

    Alen

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    We're talking about football talent. He's showing it rarely in the last 2 seasons but when he does you can see that he's amazingly talented.
    Like Zlatan in his second season with Juve. He was a disaster but could you doubt that he has an out of this world talent?

    Nobody's saying that he is a great player. He's not because he's not using his talents consistently, but he certainly isn't some one dimensional runner.
     

    Alen

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    "After a dazzling 2006-07 season, many pundits have hailed him one of the brightest future stars of Italy. A regular in the Italy U-21 squad, his Brazilian-inspired flair and technical skills have earned him the nickname Rosinaldo, a portmanteau of his last name and Ronaldo's name"


    He had an amazing 06/07 season (when we were in B). He used to dribble half of the team and score/assist.
    After that he suddenly stopped performing well. But he did show and occasionally he still shows that he's a great talent, one of the greatest talents in serie A. Why and how he stopped performing and he became so average, it's his problem, but how can someone doubt his talent and technical skills is beyond me.
     

    Stephan

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    "After a dazzling 2006-07 season, many pundits have hailed him one of the brightest future stars of Italy. A regular in the Italy U-21 squad, his Brazilian-inspired flair and technical skills have earned him the nickname Rosinaldo, a portmanteau of his last name and Ronaldo's name"


    He had an amazing 06/07 season (when we were in B). He used to dribble half of the team and score/assist.
    After that he suddenly stopped performing well. But he did show and occasionally he still shows that he's a great talent, one of the greatest talents in serie A. Why and how he stopped performing and he became so average, it's his problem, but how can someone doubt his talent and technical skills is beyond me.
    I was talking about your Zlatan comment.
     
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