It’s always sunny in Juventuz or some shit (6 Viewers)
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Day 1 thoughts:
Mohad's set a very low bar for what is "unreasonable" when describing Fred's early posts
Ocelot's interrogation seems too aggressive to be the Ocelot of previous editions. After an early flurry, Ocelot returns near the deadline with no analysis (unlike him for sure) and doesn't make a vote. Although he said he would be busy in general, today would be okay for him.
At the point Ocelot votes Zach, it's 3-3-3, so it's the first vote to reduce the 3-man battle, to a 2-man battle, and it's a very decisive one. He does not initially provide a reason for this vote; it is 9 minutes to deadline.
Zach set his sights on Fred early, and stuck with him til he was lynched. Zach doesn't address the accusations thrown at him, and appears to not know what's going on.
Kyle nicely checkmating Mohad on his reasoning for his Fred suspicion. Kyle shows concern for the lack of activity in the thread, activity not something a G would want, but could it be an act? Kyle jumps from the Fred camp to the Zach camp, when it's 3-2-2 and makes the battle solely, between Zach & Fred, removing X from the battle. It didn't seem to take much convincing to abandon his original argument.
becomes (X, Kyle, Alen, Mohad [& Klin, who made a very early vote for Fred, gave no reason, and disappeared for the day]) vs. (Fred, Voller
Tomice made a good point on his reason for voting Zach. Before his vote, it was Fred 2, Zach 1 (and a few others with one vote). At this point, his vote would be a significant one in the Zach & Fred battle, and was too bold a move for a G to usually make. Tomice suggesting he might want to take his vote off of Zach in place of Salvo, but not actually doing so.
Alen's attack on Fred is making it a clear battle between Fred and Zach, and a risk you would usually not one would take as C, so it seems something was at stake with the possibility of Zach being lynched. Alen also tries to provoke Fred. Alen then withdraws from the battle and votes for Salvo, with the Fred/Zach battle raging on. (Perhaps by creating a 3-way tie introducing Salvo now, he hopes to save Zach in a less direct way?) Alen was PMing me relentlessly, but I had no idea what was going on in the game at that point. It seemed like his interest in me possibly being the BG was intentionally fake, then he tried to cover that up with an equally pretend faked interest in whether I'm a G or not. He was purposefully saying shit that made no sense. So make of that what you will)
Salvo, while people are pointing fingers everywhere and beginning to form 2 camps (Zach & Alen/Mohad vs. Fred & Kyle/Tomice) is not taking part
Fred is right of accusing Alen off doing exactly what he did to cast suspicion on himself and get himself lynched in the last game.
X is also distanced from the battle and has his eye on Salvo. X suggested the 3-way tie before it started to take place, and in hindsight, it proved to be a useful event in making people pick certain sides quickly.*
Voller defends Fred and in the first to vote Zach, but doesn't appear for the rest of the day.
Fake Melo is the first cast his vote in the thread. The vote is for Zach, and Melo disappears til almost immediately (9 minutes) after the deadline is closed, despite posting all over the forum that day.
After this, it is revealed that an attempt was made to whack Alen, but he was saved by the BG, which means more than likely he isn't a G... but there is a small chance. he is.
So that's my day 1 analysis, and I will see how similar the voting patterns remained to this in the following days to decide how I will make my vote from hear on.
P.S. forgive the typos and rambling, or incomplete posts, if there any. Feeling the effects of having a few beers
* A democratic move that should be used on first days in future games
Mohad's set a very low bar for what is "unreasonable" when describing Fred's early posts
Ocelot's interrogation seems too aggressive to be the Ocelot of previous editions. After an early flurry, Ocelot returns near the deadline with no analysis (unlike him for sure) and doesn't make a vote. Although he said he would be busy in general, today would be okay for him.
At the point Ocelot votes Zach, it's 3-3-3, so it's the first vote to reduce the 3-man battle, to a 2-man battle, and it's a very decisive one. He does not initially provide a reason for this vote; it is 9 minutes to deadline.
Zach set his sights on Fred early, and stuck with him til he was lynched. Zach doesn't address the accusations thrown at him, and appears to not know what's going on.
Kyle nicely checkmating Mohad on his reasoning for his Fred suspicion. Kyle shows concern for the lack of activity in the thread, activity not something a G would want, but could it be an act? Kyle jumps from the Fred camp to the Zach camp, when it's 3-2-2 and makes the battle solely, between Zach & Fred, removing X from the battle. It didn't seem to take much convincing to abandon his original argument.
becomes (X, Kyle, Alen, Mohad [& Klin, who made a very early vote for Fred, gave no reason, and disappeared for the day]) vs. (Fred, Voller
Tomice made a good point on his reason for voting Zach. Before his vote, it was Fred 2, Zach 1 (and a few others with one vote). At this point, his vote would be a significant one in the Zach & Fred battle, and was too bold a move for a G to usually make. Tomice suggesting he might want to take his vote off of Zach in place of Salvo, but not actually doing so.
Alen's attack on Fred is making it a clear battle between Fred and Zach, and a risk you would usually not one would take as C, so it seems something was at stake with the possibility of Zach being lynched. Alen also tries to provoke Fred. Alen then withdraws from the battle and votes for Salvo, with the Fred/Zach battle raging on. (Perhaps by creating a 3-way tie introducing Salvo now, he hopes to save Zach in a less direct way?) Alen was PMing me relentlessly, but I had no idea what was going on in the game at that point. It seemed like his interest in me possibly being the BG was intentionally fake, then he tried to cover that up with an equally pretend faked interest in whether I'm a G or not. He was purposefully saying shit that made no sense. So make of that what you will)
Salvo, while people are pointing fingers everywhere and beginning to form 2 camps (Zach & Alen/Mohad vs. Fred & Kyle/Tomice) is not taking part
Fred is right of accusing Alen off doing exactly what he did to cast suspicion on himself and get himself lynched in the last game.
X is also distanced from the battle and has his eye on Salvo. X suggested the 3-way tie before it started to take place, and in hindsight, it proved to be a useful event in making people pick certain sides quickly.*
Voller defends Fred and in the first to vote Zach, but doesn't appear for the rest of the day.
Fake Melo is the first cast his vote in the thread. The vote is for Zach, and Melo disappears til almost immediately (9 minutes) after the deadline is closed, despite posting all over the forum that day.
After this, it is revealed that an attempt was made to whack Alen, but he was saved by the BG, which means more than likely he isn't a G... but there is a small chance. he is.
So that's my day 1 analysis, and I will see how similar the voting patterns remained to this in the following days to decide how I will make my vote from hear on.
P.S. forgive the typos and rambling, or incomplete posts, if there any. Feeling the effects of having a few beers
* A democratic move that should be used on first days in future games
Question for the players: Is it the time of the year when you're all semi drunk and feeling the effects of no sleep? Almost everyone used the "I'm tired" and "I drank a little" excuses 
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If Blondu is the lawyer who saved himself, then he and I are the most likely recruits
If the Gs know both the BG and the D, and if they're yet to recruit, then Blondu will surely become the next G.
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If Blondu is the lawyer who saved himself, then he and I are the most likely recruits
If the Gs know both the BG and the D, and if they're yet to recruit, then Blondu will surely become the next G.
We're not blaming you. It's everyone's fault. Most of us know that the lawyer can't save himself, yet we failed to notice that it's not written in the rules 
I take the duty to re-read the rules again and make all the needed updates.
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Btw, tonight will be the D's 4th investigation. The crooked cop has only 4 chances to ask Ford who was investigated (it's in the fuckin rules). I'm sure he used three of those.
So, the D has to be protected tonight. Be it from the jailer or from the BG, but he/she has to be. From tomorrow on the Gs won't even know who was investigated. Since neither the BG nor the D want to talk to me or publicly, I'll still leave open the option that they are simply afraid. That's why I'm writing these obvious things.
If the BG and the D are protected, I'm guessing I'm the strongest whacking option. Unless the Gs think I'm playing with them, then they'll go after someone else.
BG and D, I will never take any of you seriously if I find out after the game that you're still not in contact. I swear
I take the duty to re-read the rules again and make all the needed updates.
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Btw, tonight will be the D's 4th investigation. The crooked cop has only 4 chances to ask Ford who was investigated (it's in the fuckin rules). I'm sure he used three of those.
So, the D has to be protected tonight. Be it from the jailer or from the BG, but he/she has to be. From tomorrow on the Gs won't even know who was investigated. Since neither the BG nor the D want to talk to me or publicly, I'll still leave open the option that they are simply afraid. That's why I'm writing these obvious things.
If the BG and the D are protected, I'm guessing I'm the strongest whacking option. Unless the Gs think I'm playing with them, then they'll go after someone else.
BG and D, I will never take any of you seriously if I find out after the game that you're still not in contact. I swear
very unlikely both X and Ocelot are G's, only one of them can be a G.
If Ocelot and X were both G's, X only needed to vote fred or Zach to be safe from lynching. it would be an easier vote to defend (was saving himself after all) and it wouldn't put Ocelot in the spotlight. unless X wouldn't play like that as he himself suggested when I asked him about it
If only Ocelot was a G he wouldn't have made that vote as you said, he is most probably a C imo as well
the only remaining option then is for X to be a G or non of them
The D should be protected, however I would make a case for Zach to protect himself if he is indeed the BG.
if the G's buy into this Zach being the BG why wouldn't they try and whack him today then? assuming he will be protecting the D, he will be open to a whack. if he is the BG and protects himself the chances for the G's to actually whack the D would still be only 1/10
If Ocelot and X were both G's, X only needed to vote fred or Zach to be safe from lynching. it would be an easier vote to defend (was saving himself after all) and it wouldn't put Ocelot in the spotlight. unless X wouldn't play like that as he himself suggested when I asked him about it
If only Ocelot was a G he wouldn't have made that vote as you said, he is most probably a C imo as well
the only remaining option then is for X to be a G or non of them
Btw, tonight will be the D's 4th investigation. The crooked cop has only 4 chances to ask Ford who was investigated (it's in the fuckin rules). I'm sure he used three of those.
So, the D has to be protected tonight. Be it from the jailer or from the BG, but he/she has to be. From tomorrow on the Gs won't even know who was investigated. Since neither the BG nor the D want to talk to me or publicly, I'll still leave open the option that they are simply afraid. That's why I'm writing these obvious things.
If the BG and the D are protected, I'm guessing I'm the strongest whacking option. Unless the Gs think I'm playing with them, then they'll go after someone else.
BG and D, I will never take any of you seriously if I find out after the game that you're still not in contact. I swear
So, the D has to be protected tonight. Be it from the jailer or from the BG, but he/she has to be. From tomorrow on the Gs won't even know who was investigated. Since neither the BG nor the D want to talk to me or publicly, I'll still leave open the option that they are simply afraid. That's why I'm writing these obvious things.
If the BG and the D are protected, I'm guessing I'm the strongest whacking option. Unless the Gs think I'm playing with them, then they'll go after someone else.
BG and D, I will never take any of you seriously if I find out after the game that you're still not in contact. I swear
if the G's buy into this Zach being the BG why wouldn't they try and whack him today then? assuming he will be protecting the D, he will be open to a whack. if he is the BG and protects himself the chances for the G's to actually whack the D would still be only 1/10
Here's where I'm at
Probable G's:
Melo - two meaningless vote the last two day, didn't even vote in the first one
The second day Melo voted Kyle, only to change it suddenly to Mohad 15 minutes later when it seemed pretty sure that Kyle was going to get lynched, why as a C would you move your vote from the most suspect G to someone that has no votes at all, could've at least vote for one of Kate or Salvo (it's clear why he couldn't vote salvo at the time if indeed he is a G, if he is it also clears Kate imo)
Also his reasoning for the vote change was very off, during the day he was suspecting Kyle only to turn on Mohad shortly before deadline for "trying to frame Kyle" when almost everyone was doing it at some point including him. yesterday he just parked his vote early on Mohad again but kept a much lower profile after his name got mentioned a few time, didn't even respond to any accusation.
Blondu - Yesterday events, there is a very slim possibility the G's would have done it so we waste another day lynching the same player, it would be a very shrewd move imo but remains unlikely. we will be much smarter about this one as the day goes on. Another possibility is that he is the lawyer but then he should have claimed it before saving himself. we should assume the lawyer was recruited either way imo
Might be G's:
Mohad - What you guys said, however I find him the least likely in this group together with X. I'm not convinced The G's would allow him to get so much attention on himself by going after both Fred ( who was a confirmed C) and then Kyle (now also probable C by most people). The only reason i'm keeping him in this group his the option that the G group is made from noobs (unlikely) or that's actually a play to throw people off like myself
Woody - Too quiet, Last game as a C he was all over the place, very eager. this game he plays very differently, he didn't even replayed when me and Voller mentioned it when last game he jumped on anyone who mentioned him trying to explain himself. Also his voting doesn't make much sense, the second day when Kyle was the most suspicious player he didn't vote him, voted Salvo early instead, the next day he does vote Kyle early. he also never provided any reason for his voting which is very uncharacteristic of him imo, can't remember him quationing anyone coupled with him having the lowest post count makes him a probable G imo
Enron - At 9:30 Enron votes Mohad with like half an hour to deadline, again when Mohad wasn't at risk at all. Also his posting dos'nt do anything to make him appear like a C, granted I haven't played with him before but his posting look a lot like Salvo posting when he is a G, one liners of not saying much usually accompanied by similes. yesterday again, just like Melo, he parked his vote on mohad early and barley posted since.
X - Just a hunch at the moment, a few bits and pieces but not much to write about at the moment
Probable C's:
Ocelot - Can't make sense of him being a G, either both him and X played it really poorly which is unlikely or he is a C
Kyle - The zach whacking cleared him in the eyes of most players, I would leave it as an (very) outside shot that Zach whack was to redeem Kyle knowing we will waste another day on lynching Blondu anyway.
Zach - He got protected, no one would do it beside him or BG if he is a special role. every other explanation is to much of a fantasy right now
Voller - A strong feeling but nothing much here, did nothing for me to think otherwise so far, could have been in the no clue group just as well
Alen - he is either the BG or Zach is (allegedly) , every other scenario seems crazy unlikely imo. If Zach is the BG there is a small possibility Alen was recruited, even if the G's thought he might be the BG they could still put his name on the list to narrow the recruitment. I will asuume he was investigated by now otherwise the D and BG are whack
No fuckin Clue:
Osman, Matt, Kate
Probable G's:
Melo - two meaningless vote the last two day, didn't even vote in the first one
The second day Melo voted Kyle, only to change it suddenly to Mohad 15 minutes later when it seemed pretty sure that Kyle was going to get lynched, why as a C would you move your vote from the most suspect G to someone that has no votes at all, could've at least vote for one of Kate or Salvo (it's clear why he couldn't vote salvo at the time if indeed he is a G, if he is it also clears Kate imo)
Also his reasoning for the vote change was very off, during the day he was suspecting Kyle only to turn on Mohad shortly before deadline for "trying to frame Kyle" when almost everyone was doing it at some point including him. yesterday he just parked his vote early on Mohad again but kept a much lower profile after his name got mentioned a few time, didn't even respond to any accusation.
Blondu - Yesterday events, there is a very slim possibility the G's would have done it so we waste another day lynching the same player, it would be a very shrewd move imo but remains unlikely. we will be much smarter about this one as the day goes on. Another possibility is that he is the lawyer but then he should have claimed it before saving himself. we should assume the lawyer was recruited either way imo
Might be G's:
Mohad - What you guys said, however I find him the least likely in this group together with X. I'm not convinced The G's would allow him to get so much attention on himself by going after both Fred ( who was a confirmed C) and then Kyle (now also probable C by most people). The only reason i'm keeping him in this group his the option that the G group is made from noobs (unlikely) or that's actually a play to throw people off like myself
Woody - Too quiet, Last game as a C he was all over the place, very eager. this game he plays very differently, he didn't even replayed when me and Voller mentioned it when last game he jumped on anyone who mentioned him trying to explain himself. Also his voting doesn't make much sense, the second day when Kyle was the most suspicious player he didn't vote him, voted Salvo early instead, the next day he does vote Kyle early. he also never provided any reason for his voting which is very uncharacteristic of him imo, can't remember him quationing anyone coupled with him having the lowest post count makes him a probable G imo
Enron - At 9:30 Enron votes Mohad with like half an hour to deadline, again when Mohad wasn't at risk at all. Also his posting dos'nt do anything to make him appear like a C, granted I haven't played with him before but his posting look a lot like Salvo posting when he is a G, one liners of not saying much usually accompanied by similes. yesterday again, just like Melo, he parked his vote on mohad early and barley posted since.
X - Just a hunch at the moment, a few bits and pieces but not much to write about at the moment
Probable C's:
Ocelot - Can't make sense of him being a G, either both him and X played it really poorly which is unlikely or he is a C
Kyle - The zach whacking cleared him in the eyes of most players, I would leave it as an (very) outside shot that Zach whack was to redeem Kyle knowing we will waste another day on lynching Blondu anyway.
Zach - He got protected, no one would do it beside him or BG if he is a special role. every other explanation is to much of a fantasy right now
Voller - A strong feeling but nothing much here, did nothing for me to think otherwise so far, could have been in the no clue group just as well
Alen - he is either the BG or Zach is (allegedly) , every other scenario seems crazy unlikely imo. If Zach is the BG there is a small possibility Alen was recruited, even if the G's thought he might be the BG they could still put his name on the list to narrow the recruitment. I will asuume he was investigated by now otherwise the D and BG are whack
No fuckin Clue:
Osman, Matt, Kate