It’s always sunny in Juventuz or some shit (10 Viewers)

Kate

Moderator
Feb 7, 2011
18,595
Kate, just a gut feeling, nothing else.
You just like to see how I react. Which is badly :scared:

Sadly, I feel that people voting either Zach or Fred doesn't really give us anything on a first day as it seems based on personal feelings/past games.
 

Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
18,943
Realistically I can only be a G after yesterday if X is a G.

I want the Cs to win, so I think the best idea would be to investigate X and lynch one of Kyle or Zach. If X is a C, you can be sure I'm one as well, if not, I'm willinf to take the fall. If one of Kyle or Zach are Gs, both are.

And I know this is not how I nornally play, but that's down to me really not having much time to properly analyse shit and play my usual game.

Oh and X, I really hope you're not a G :lol:
 

Quetzalcoatl

It ain't hard to tell
Aug 22, 2007
66,760
Is nobody going to question Alen's posts? :wth: Wtf am I reading here.

Yes, he is likely the BG, but there is still a chance he is not.

Whoever the D is, do not reveal yourself to Alen, not even if a sure C is being lynched. You are needed to find Gs, not save Cs at this point.
@Alen I still don't understand why you would need to protect one of the five people you mentioned. You are obviously, and rightfully, going to protect yourself.

People, please read Alen's posts and question them
 

Ocelot

Midnight Marauder
Jul 13, 2013
18,943
Nice tactic to get rid of me
I don't want to get rid of you, don't think you're a G, but me saving Fred yesterday could also seem like I was saving you. We gotta get those doubts out of the way, hence I suggested you to be investigated (not lynched).
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,798
Here's day 1 summarized

2 hours until deadline:
Fred has 3 votes, X 2 votes, and a bunch with 1 vote.

1:30h until deadline:
Voller gives the first vote for Zach

1h until deadline:
Tomice gives the 2nd vote for Zach, and Fred sees the chance to save himself, thus adds one more vote to Zach, to which I reply with a vote for Fred.
Now it's: Fred 4, Zach 3, X 2

55 minutes until deadline:
Salvo votes for X to put him back in the game. I take my vote off of Fred and give it to Salvo, so now Salvo's also at risk, with the trio above him having 3 votes each.

28 minutes until deadline:
Ford says that Fred has 3 votes, Zach 3 votes, X 2 votes, Salvo 2 votes.
Kyle seems to have followed well and reminds Ford that Salvo voted for X, which means that X actually has 3 votes. Salvo immediately confirms his vote for X, which means that Fred, X and Zach have 3 votes, while Salvo has 2.

9 minutes until deadline
Ocelot, whose vote for Mohad changed nothing at that point, decides to get involved and gives a vote for Zach. At this point, and in hindsight, it's not suspicious because this vote was saving Fred the civilian.. or maybe he was saving X, even Salvo?
Zach 4 votes, Fred 3 votes, X 3 votes, Salvo 2 votes.

6 minutes until deadline
Kyle, who didn't vote until now, complains that Ocelot ruined a 3 way tie and votes for Fred to make it: Fred 4, Zach 4, X 3, Salvo 2

This is all we got.
so the one who got saved is Salvo not me, if indeed i was the one to be saved i would have had my alleged G buddies vote for either fred or zach before it got all suspicious, the action got interesting as soon as you voted for him and made him close to getting lynched

today again i am voting for Salvo

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I say we go for Kyle today btw
kyle possibly pulled a fred there, and if he indeed is a G then he was saving Zach who could be the recruiter like the last game
 

Salvo

J
Moderator
Dec 17, 2007
62,797
I said why, before I voted. A hunch, I thought you started the game a bit too randomly in a way. I said it and you said you are a G again, arent you :D

Gut feeling
 

Tomice

Senior Member
Mar 25, 2009
3,024
I would be careful reading the voting yesterday,first off all only 12 people voted and it was almost a 3 way tie so it would have been easy for the G to cover their tracks by not voting at all or just spreading their votes unless we actually got two G in there which I highly doubt. A 3 way tie would have served them well, especially on the first day with so many missing votes.

Ocelot and Kyle votes were the most problematic for me yesterday. to think that either of them pulled a move to save a G is reasonable even though somewhat unlikely but we don't have much to go by for today.

Ocelot is a player that analyse voting well and would sure think about how his vote would look in case he lynches a C. Fred,X and the like wouldn't mind making a move like that as a C but I doubt Ocelot would. he would put himself in a bad position when it didn't seem absolutely necessary to do so

Regarding Kyle it's more of a feeling than anything else, I do find his reasoning and willingness for keeping the 3 way tie a bit suspicious though, the tie serves the C's well during the day as it makes it easier to spot bandwagons and unreasonable vote changes but so close to the deadline without seeing any sign of clear effort to save anyone whats the point of keeping the tie? unless it to cover the G's votes by splitting them as much as possible imo.

Also his posting around the deadline look a bit fishy to me

Zach just suddenly voting for Fred too makes a little suspicious.
Zach voting for Fred makes him suspicious of zach yet he still votes fred few minutes to deadline when zach is on the line

I think Salvo voted for X
way to ruin the 3-way tie, fred
Again he makes sure the 3 way tie is kept, first by reminding Ford Salvo voted X and then by voting Fred himself to make it a tie between fred and Zach who he said was suspicious earlier. He didn't even vote until then, he voted only when the tie was at risk.
 

Kate

Moderator
Feb 7, 2011
18,595
why dont we question @Salvo @Kate and @Jihadi John why they voted for me
I put in a vote for you as a semi-joke when you were all about picking three people at random and going for them, I picked you as one. Then I wasn't around to change my vote.

Sorry, this is how potentially good people get killed.
 

Völler

Always spot on
May 6, 2012
23,091
so the one who got saved is Salvo not me, if indeed i was the one to be saved i would have had my alleged G buddies vote for either fred or zach before it got all suspicious, the action got interesting as soon as you voted for him and made him close to getting lynched

today again i am voting for Salvo
What is your take on Zach?

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Sorry, you're in jail. :sergio:
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,941
Is nobody going to question Alen's posts? :wth: Wtf am I reading here.

Yes, he is likely the BG, but there is still a chance he is not.

Whoever the D is, do not reveal yourself to Alen, not even if a sure C is being lynched. You are needed to find Gs, not save Cs at this point.
@Alen I still don't understand why you would need to protect one of the five people you mentioned. You are obviously, and rightfully, going to protect yourself.

People, please read Alen's posts and question them
Why should the D take the risk of being lynched?

Yes, with 18 people around, 4 of them Gs and me not being the D, the Gs have 1/13 chance to whack the D (or 1/12 if X isn't the D and isn't a G). Why take that risk instead of telling me his role? I might protect myself, or I might protect the D. Let the Gs take that chance if they dare.
Or if I'm by some miracle not the BG and I'm just a normal C who was protected by the real BG... so what? In that case both the D and the real BG should contact me, I'm the link between them, and the real BG protects the D. Even if I'm recruited and the Gs know who's the D or the BG, they'll have minor chances to kill them since we won't know which one of them the BG will protect.
We need the link between the D and the BG asap. In that case the Gs will lose even that 1/13 or 1/12 chance to hit the D tonight.
 

blondu

Grazie Ale
Nov 9, 2006
27,408
Why should the D take the risk of being lynched?

Yes, with 18 people around, 4 of them Gs and me not being the D, the Gs have 1/13 chance to whack the D (or 1/12 if X isn't the D and isn't a G). Why take that risk instead of telling me his role? I might protect myself, or I might protect the D. Let the Gs take that chance if they dare.
Or if I'm by some miracle not the BG and I'm just a normal C who was protected by the real BG... so what? In that case both the D and the real BG should contact me, I'm the link between them, and the real BG protects the D. Even if I'm recruited and the Gs know who's the D or the BG, they'll have minor chances to kill them since we won't know which one of them the BG will protect.
We need the link between the D and the BG asap. In that case the Gs will lose even that 1/13 or 1/12 chance to hit the D tonight.
haven't you been contacted yet?
 

Völler

Always spot on
May 6, 2012
23,091
Why should the D take the risk of being lynched?

Yes, with 18 people around, 4 of them Gs and me not being the D, the Gs have 1/13 chance to whack the D (or 1/12 if X isn't the D and isn't a G). Why take that risk instead of telling me his role? I might protect myself, or I might protect the D. Let the Gs take that chance if they dare.
Or if I'm by some miracle not the BG and I'm just a normal C who was protected by the real BG... so what? In that case both the D and the real BG should contact me, I'm the link between them, and the real BG protects the D. Even if I'm recruited and the Gs know who's the D or the BG, they'll have minor chances to kill them since we won't know which one of them the BG will protect.
We need the link between the D and the BG asap. In that case the Gs will lose even that 1/13 or 1/12 chance to hit the D tonight.
Even if it's very unlikely, you could also be a G. I'm pretty sure Janna, as a bodyguard, protected you on day 1 in a previous game. Of course it's really, really unlikely that it happened again, but it's not something we can rule out imo.

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Sorry, I'm not making any sense.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
53,941
Even if it's very unlikely, you could also be a G. I'm pretty sure Janna, as a bodyguard, protected you on day 1 in a previous game. Of course it's really, really unlikely that it happened again, but it's not something we can rule out imo.
Really? The Gs decided to whack a G because they convinced the BG to protect a G?

I sincerely wish I'd be able to do something like this, but we all know it's impossible.
 

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