Israeli-Palestinian conflict (33 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

  • Yes

  • No


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Tomice

Senior Member
Mar 25, 2009
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If you stay away from schools or other gatherings of small children you're probably fine.

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That's exactly why I say hypotheses don't matter. We can talk about that all day.

What matters is that:

- Iran issued a warning killing zero Israeli civilians.
- Israel bombed a school and a refugee camp in Gaza killing at least 20 civilians.

These are the facts.
Very selective facts, as you like them.

And if you want to discuss hypothesis, Iran, that you champion for, has responsibility for killing infinitely more Israeli and Jewish civilians then Israel killing Iranian civilians.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,330
Very selective facts, as you like them.

And if you want to discuss hypothesis, Iran, that you champion for, has responsibility for killing infinitely more Israeli and Jewish civilians then Israel killing Iranian civilians.
Israel has bombed schools, hospital and refugee camps.

They've detonated bombs in portable devices without bothering to check where those portable devices are.

Everything Israel has done so far indicates that they do not care about the lives of Palestinian or Lebanese civilians.

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Like your "Israelis subhuman" shtick :lol:
You cannot treat others the way Israel does and pretend you see them as equals.

You do not.
 

Ronn

Senior Member
May 3, 2012
20,886
Very selective facts, as you like them.

And if you want to discuss hypothesis, Iran, that you champion for, has responsibility for killing infinitely more Israeli and Jewish civilians then Israel killing Iranian civilians.
But that’s also selective no? How about we compare civilians killed by direct or indirect involvement of Iran or Israel in past 20 years. Is that fair?
 

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
7,469
Well Hamas and there supporters certainly didn't seem to treat Israelis like equals on 7 octomber.
With approval of attacks of 70 80% in general population they sure make the Israelis look subhuman to them.
Are they not equals in blame according to your moral values?

Also you forgot my question!
If the firepower of the sides were reversed how many jews do you think would die?
The answer seems to make you uncomfortable.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,330
Well Hamas and there supporters certainly didn't seem to treat Israelis like equals on 7 octomber.
With approval of attacks of 70 80%
Are they not equals in blame according to your moral values?

Also you forgot my question!
If the firepower of the sides were reversed how many jews do you think would die?
The answer seems to make you uncomfortable.
How many Israeli civilians were killed on October 7?

How many Palestinians civilians have been killed since?

Iran has firepower and chose to allow ample warning to Israel. Iran certainly preferred not to harm civilians.
 

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
7,469
How many Israeli civilians were killed on October 7?

How many Palestinians civilians have been killed since?

Iran has firepower and chose to allow ample warning to Israel. Iran certainly preferred not to harm civilians.
Again devieting :lol:
You haven't established the subhuman angle.
Why the need to run?
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,330
You can't be this dense.
You think that Iran announced the missiles because they don't want to hurt civilians?
Tell me you are not this dense and it's a joke.
Iran chose to issue a warning.

Israel chose to bomb schools, hospitals and refugee camps.

These are facts.
 

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
7,469
Iran chose to issue a warning.

Israel chose to bomb schools, hospitals and refugee camps.

These are facts.
Your facts.
You know what would happen if they wouldn't ?
All out war with a nuclear power and the US
So spare me your dumb facts .
Somehow you manged to wash clean even Khamenei's regime, a feat not even the Iran's inhabitants would do.
What a upstanding guy that Khamenei guy.
The way he cares about Jewish women and children.:lol:
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,330
Your facts.
You know what would happen if they wouldn't ?
All out war with a nuclear power and the US
So spare me your dumb facts .
Somehow you manged to wash clean even Khamenei's regime, a feat not even the Iran's inhabitants would do.
"If", "would", "wouldn't" - it's all hypothesis.

The facts are:

- Iran chose to issue a warning.
- Israel chose to bomb schools, hospitals and refugee camps.

You have not denied these facts.

Facts matter.
 

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
7,469
"If", "would", "wouldn't" - it's all hypothesis.

The facts are:

- Iran chose to issue a warning.
- Israel chose to bomb schools, hospitals and refugee camps.

You have not denied these facts.

Facts matter.
Your facts .
Like your subhuman facts.

The pinnacle of a the western man everybody
One that licks khamenei ass cause he cares about Jewish women and children while sending 200 missiles at them:lol:

Aren't you the guy that championed the UN , while they have appointed an chairman Iranian to a human rights branch within the UN?
:lol:
If you are that explains a lot.
 
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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,330
Your facts .
Like your subhuman facts.

The pinnacle of a the western man everybody
One that licks khamenei ass cause he cares about Jewish women and children while sending 200 missiles at them:lol:
Maybe, if the facts indicate that someone like Khamenei has more regard for morals and human life than you do, you should re-examine your behaviour.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,330
You are so out of touch with everything around you that I even feel bad for you.
Yes, you seem to be feeling a lot of things.

But don't let those feelings cloud the facts:

- Iran chose to issue a warning.
- Israel chose to bomb schools, hospitals and refugee camps.
 

kappa96

Senior Member
Jun 20, 2018
7,469
Yes, you seem to be feeling a lot of things.

But don't let those feelings cloud the facts:

- Iran chose to issue a warning.
- Israel chose to bomb schools, hospitals and refugee camps.
Your facts.
If the firepower of the sides were reversed how many jews do you think would die?
The answer seems to make you uncomfortable.
 

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