Israeli-Palestinian conflict (77 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

  • Yes

  • No


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Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,460
This will go on forever, and we've been through it a million times. I'm not really interested in continuing this conversation.
We haven't been through this. Not once. The reason you're not replying is that you just fucking lost an argument. Be a man and admit it.

Don't you talk to me about racism, when you follow a racist God.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,131
:lol:



All atheists thinks we're dumb and stupid, I wanna cry now :cry:
I do think that millions of Muslims are dumb and stupid.

I also think that millions of them are smart while thousands are really smart and incredibly intelligent, to the level that isn't comprehensive to me.

But you will never understand that because you love feeling oppressed, underrated victim.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,460
I do think that millions of Muslims are dumb and stupid.

I also think that millions of them are smart while thousands are really smart and incredibly intelligent, to the level that isn't comprehensive to me.

But you will never understand that because you love feeling oppressed, underrated victim.
That's their entire existence.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,112
We haven't been through this. Not once. The reason you're not replying is that you just fucking lost an argument. Be a man and admit it.

Don't you talk to me about racism, when you follow a racist God.

Ok then, i'll go along with you.

But first, tell me what you think about IZ's comment.



I do think that millions of Muslims are dumb and stupid.

I also think that millions of them are smart while thousands are really smart and incredibly intelligent, to the level that isn't comprehensive to me.

But you will never understand that because you love feeling oppressed, underrated victim
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I personally don't feel oppressed at all, i don't feel i'm a victim either. Who am I supposedly oppresed by? I don't understand.
 

JBF

اختك يا زمن
Aug 5, 2006
18,451
All theists think atheists are going to hell. :lol:
But you don't believe there's a hell in the first place :lol:

I do think that millions of Muslims are dumb and stupid.

I also think that millions of them are smart while thousands are really smart and incredibly intelligent, to the level that isn't comprehensive to me.

But you will never understand that because you love feeling oppressed, underrated victim.
Im not feeling any of those I was merely trying to pull a 7 here. He's implying we're racist and that we all think we're better than him so here I am being devastated because atheists are supposed to be the smart ones.

In other words I generalized there just like 7 did in an attempt to draw him a close picture of what he just did.
 

Alen

Ѕenior Аdmin
Apr 2, 2007
54,131
I personally don't feel oppressed at all, i don't feel i'm a victim either. Who am I supposedly oppresed by? I don't understand.
That's great for you. And I believe that you indeed don't feel that way. You're very young, educated and blessed with intelligence. If you use it to make your life better, and you will, instead of acting paranoid and defensive all the time (look at Gamaro) you will succeed.

My personal experience though is that I've seen many more people like Gamaro among my Muslim friends, colleagues or people I know than among any other people.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
39,460
Ok then, i'll go along with you.

But first, tell me what you think about IZ's comment.
I'm going to take a risk here and be completely honest with you. I disagreed with it. I thought it was racist (because of the origins of the word) and I thought it didn't help his argument at all. However I do not think IZ is racist, I believe it was out of frustration.

But the way some of you shout 'racism!' every time something is discussed annoys me very much. Especially because religious people are, to some extent, inherently racist themselves.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,112
That's great for you. And I believe that you indeed don't feel that way. You're very young, educated and blessed with intelligence. If you use it to make your life better, and you will, instead of acting paranoid and defensive all the time (look at Gamaro) you will succeed.

My personal experience though is that I've seen many more people like Gamaro among my Muslim friends, colleagues or people I know than among any other people.

I'd agree if you said "Arabs" instead of Muslims, though your experiences probably came with non Arab muslims, i don't know.

In general, Arabs are at least from my experience, kind of like Italians, they're conspiracy theorists, and the conspiracy is always against us, not necessarily against us as Arabs, even individually we(Arabs) do play the "victim role" a lot.
 

Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,112
I'm going to take a risk here and be completely honest with you. I disagreed with it. I thought it was racist (because of the origins of the word) and I thought it didn't help his argument at all. However I do not think IZ is racist, I believe it was out of frustration.

But the way some of you shout 'racism!' every time something is discussed annoys me very much. Especially because religious people are, to some extent, inherently racist themselves.

I don't think he's racist either. I just wanted him to know that saying things like that even out of frustration isn't acceptable. He knows very well that if he said that exact same word to me, JBF, Bisco or any of the other regulars here i wouldn't make a big deal out of it.
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
I said in case of smoking they're banning half the picture while the rest is to come.

Look at it this way, somking is bad. Neither woman nor men should be allowed to smoke in public places, I think that's obvious. So banning the woman from doing just that is the first step from a full ban and since we already agreed how devastating public smoking is, woman have nothing to complain about. This is like making a law on prohibiting smoking weed in the streets and making woman the priority here, it should be for both genders no doubt, but prohibiting it for woman is far from a sexist aproach but rather a step in canceling this disease while banning men is yet to come.
I don't think so.

You're talking about gender equality there while Im talking about freedom of choice which that ban clearly violates. Whether you're a man or a woman you've the right to wear whatever you want, whether it's a funny hat, your team's jersey, your African traditional clothes or simply a Burqa.
A t-shirt having Mohammad's naked picture too?

No, you don't have the right to wear whatever you want and no, this is not against the freedom.

Now that Burqa is to be banned while it's clear that only muslim woman are the one being targetted here
If a French man wears a full-veil or a niqab, the law will be imposed to him too. It's not against having hijab, it's against wearing burqa in public places. Burqa is not a must in Islam at all so if Muslim women are those who are wearing burqa, they are not even practicing their religion.

So yea, banning woman from smoking in public places which is in fact dangerous on their health among with others is clearly much understandble than banning woman from wearing a burqa in public places for nothing but being a violation for the European way of life. Hamas suddebly looks much more democratic now than France regarding that.
This is just as dangerous for men. Hey, look at it this way: This means that they care more about women. It's sexism.
 

Gamaro

The Arabian Knight
Aug 6, 2007
1,289
God says muslims are better than me. What if I say I'm better than muslims? That would be racist, right?

No,u won't be racist PROVIDING u have concept behind that.

for example: Christians have the right to say they are better than muslims based on Bilbe the same for the Jews who also have the right to say they are the best based on the Torah.U may think all those are just words in books but they are thoughts,ideas n concepts.

So i don't mind AT ALL,if someone believe that he is better based on an idea or thought,BUT saying that u r better than muslims based on nothing and with no solid background about Islam,this is racism or i can even call it discrimination if u ppl relate racism only to race.

If Messi says im better than Drogba based on what i achieved then he has the right to say it,but if he say he is so cos Drogba is African then he is racist.A doctor can say im better than a bus driver based on his education but he has no right to say im better than a bus driver as human.I HOPE U GOT MY POINT

It is also FREEDOM OF THOUGHTS that gives everyone the right to have an idea n thinks it is the best,but u can not say u r better than me based on nothing.
Example: a marxist can say he is better than an imperialist cos he is convinced with Marxism n also an imperialist can say he is better than a marxist cos he is convinced with imperialism.BUT a marxist has no right to say he is better when he has no enough knowledge about imperialism.AGAIN HOPE U GOT IT.

I know u r Atheist n i knw u may tell me that u believe in Atheism,again i would say it is ur right,BUT this way u should say i'm better than theists cos ur debate is with theists wheather they are muslims,christians or jews.

Ur prob Seven is that whenever u criticise Islam,u don't clearify ur points n never explain enough why u criticise it,that's why many muslims here just think u r a hater of Islam for nothing.
 

Gamaro

The Arabian Knight
Aug 6, 2007
1,289
That's great for you. And I believe that you indeed don't feel that way. You're very young, educated and blessed with intelligence. If you use it to make your life better, and you will, instead of acting paranoid and defensive all the time (look at Gamaro) you will succeed.

My personal experience though is that I've seen many more people like Gamaro among my Muslim friends, colleagues or people I know than among any other people.
paranoid n defensive!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not Alessandro nesta,as it is ur right to criticise Islam i also have the right to reply.

U ppl all the time are criticising n whenever we reply or argue we find ourselves being called defensive,aggressive,narrow-minded,backward..................?

And how can u predict i will not succeed,Mr.Paul?
 

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