Israeli-Palestinian conflict (50 Viewers)

[Azzurri7]

I don't know, mate, that really doesn't sound like the definition of self defense to me.

You don't react against the one forbidden you to take your medicines and buy your food?

 

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[Azzurri7]

I have always backed the idea of a state ruled by a third party, because I think they're both entitled to the land, but there won't be peace if one rules over the other, which is what would happen.

Oh god.

We are not living in Disney land world, Andries.

 

[Seven]

Oh god.

We are not living in Disney Land world, Andries.

You do know that there are regions in this world that are ruled by a third party.. right?

What kind of comment is that anyway? You're calling ME naive? That's a first.

 

[Azzurri7]

You do know that there are regions in this world that are ruled by a third party.. right?

What kind of comment is that anyway? You're calling ME naive? That's a first.

More than naive if you allow me.

You really really think Israel will accept being ruled by a third party. Israel??? They would rather put themselves on some ships and return back to Europe then to be ruled by a third party. They don't trust themselves let alone trusting a third party

I thought you'd know better.

 

[Seven]

More than naive if you allow me.

You really really think Israel will accept being ruled by a third party. Israel??? They would rather put themselves on some ships and return back to Europe then to be ruled by a third party. They don't trust themselves let alone trusting a third party

So you really think it's more likely that 5 million Jews will be deported to Poland? I think not.

 

[Azzurri7]

So you really think it's more likely that 5 million Jews will be deported to Poland? I think not.

No but it's more likely for them to return and live all over Europe than to be ruled by a third party.

 

[king Ale]

I don't remember you asking me these questions. Please show me the posts.

http://www.juventuz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2519244&postcount=7604

Here's what I said...

We've had enough of the Israeli's genocides. I've had enough of them killing my relatives, destroying my house two times the last time was in 2006, I've had enough of them trying to occupy my land, south of Lebanon, I've had enough of them that at some point I wouldn't mind if genocides takes place against them because a man with nothing to loose results into nothing to loose

I know. Man with nothing to lose doing something wrong is very likely and understandable.

I kill your parents, I steal your house, I rape your siblings, if your reaction would be standing up and applauding me then I don't have much to comment. If your reaction is standing up and attacking me trying to defend yourself even if that meant killing me then we're on the same line.

No we are not. Nothing puts us on the same line. You are attacking and I'm defending. If you kill me you must be punished, if I kill you, I must not.

I said also, I wouldn't mind killing any one of them, be it youngsters, old men if that meant Israel occupying my land. Yes, if they want to occupy my land and turn it into another Palestine or Gazza then I wouldn't mind killing them from youngest till oldest. I have to think of my Parents and childcare's future no? :smile:

So you defend your family with killing the youngest of them? Would you also rape the daughter of the man who has raped your siblings?

This way of thinking is why we haven't been successful? What's successful to you? Please answer. Please.

- Successful is to let them wipe us out of this planet?
-Successful is to watch them killing us?
-Successful is to accept them occupying our land?
-Successful is to shut our mouths and say nothing so the world doesn't turn against us?

Successful to show your pain and sufferings to the world. You have failed to do it unfortunately.

Fuck successful, I don't want to be successful, I'd rather look like a murder trying to protect himself and his future's kids then to look like a successful pussy lad.

Like it's made a difference to your people within over 60 years.

If the public people are so ignorant to not know the difference between a criminal and an innocent then the world's public people can soap it and I will depend on myself without caring what they'll have to say.

People soaping it won't help you much I'm afraid.

 

[Seven]

No but it's more likely for them to return and live all over Europe than to be ruled by a third party.

There are ways to make third party rule very acceptable though.

 

[Azzurri7]

http://www.juventuz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2519244&postcount=7604

What's this? So you didn't find the post you were hoping to find you come up with a random post that I post almost everyday in this thread Hoori? Class.

I know. Man with nothing to lose doing something wrong is very likely and understandable.

I wouldn't say wrong, I would say understandable:smile:

No we are not. Nothing puts us on the same line. You are attacking and I'm defending. If you kill me you must be punished, if I kill you, I must not.

You didn't answer my question.

So you defend your family with killing the youngest of them? Would you also rape the daughter of the man who has raped your siblings?

Stop twisting my words. You're starting to imitate someone on this forum and it's really classless.

I said, if they would try to occupy my land and turn this into another Gazza then I wouldn't mind killing anyone, be it old women or youngsters.

I don't rape, I kill to defend my house and my family. I have a mother, I have sisters, I don't do this... I leave raping for others.

Successful to show your pain and sufferings to the world. You have failed to do it unfortunately.

Oh so now you are not aware of how much the Palestinians are suffering?

The Europeans are not aware too no?

How does one show pain and sufferings?

People soaping it won't help you much I'm afraid.

Neither having them by my side will help much so what's the difference?

 

[Azzurri7]

There are ways to make third party rule very acceptable though.

Good luck convincing the world's most difficult characters.

 

[king Ale]

What's this? So you didn't find the post you were hoping to find you come up with a random post that I post almost everyday in this thread Hoori? Class.

What? :wth: I said I asked you this question and you answered me that. You said you didn't remember it and I showed you that post

I once asked you would you kill the children of those who killed your grandfather? Would you steal the house of the children of those who stole your grandfather's house and what's the difference between you and those criminals then? And you said: the difference is that the place is MY home.

I don't remember you asking me these questions. Please show me the posts.

There I showed you the post you asked for.

You didn't answer my question.

What question? I don't blame you for defending your family or for killing someone who wants to kill your family.

Stop twisting my words. You're starting to imitate someone on this forum and it's really classless.

I said, if they would try to occupy my land and turn this into another Gazza then I wouldn't mind killing anyone, be it old women or youngsters.

I thought you said you'd kill them all, no matter if it is a kid whose only fault is that his father is killing your people.

 

[Fred]

Something more....Around 40% of today's Israeli came to Israel from the Arab countries. From 2 of those countries (Libya and Egypt) they were even expelled and their properties were taken.

So if we do accept those Jews in Europe and give them our houses, then I'm guessing the same should be done to those circa 2 million Israelis of today who came, or have origins, from the Arab countries, or Turkey.

Does this mean that Bisco and Fred, if it's established that Jews lived in their houses in Egypt and Libya before being expelled, should give those houses back to a Jewish family?

Huge numbers of today's Israeli were born (or their parents were born) in Iraq, Yemen, Syria, Lebanon.
So is there someone here from Lebanon or Syria willing to give his house to those Jews if it's established that Jews lived there before the 1950's?

We had a small Jewish minority here in Libya, and indeed they were forced out of the country. There was a backlash against Jews at the time because of what happened in Palestine and all. I'm not so sure about Egypt, i will leave that to Bisco, but indeed the Jews were mistreated here in Libya.

At the risk of sounding like i am justifying it(which i am not), the Jews lived in Libya peacefully for centuries, until the whole Palestine - Israel conflict. Most of the Libyan Jews moved to Italy.

Of course, those Jews have a right to their homes and land in Libya, and if there was any justice, they would get it back.

 

[ReBeL]

Associated Press:

"The sudden opening of Gaza's gateway to the world through its southern border with Egypt has turned into a scene of extreme anxiety. Hundreds crowd around border officials to snatch updates on whether they can cross to Egypt by day's end, mostly only to be told "no.""

 

[Vinman]

lets move the Jews to South Africa

 

[GordoDeCentral]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madagascar_Plan

 

[ReBeL]

http://www.muzzlewatch.com/2010/06/...lewatch+(MuzzleWatch)&utm_content=Yahoo!+Mail

 

[ReBeL]

Reuters photographer decided to go to Beit Lahya today in north Gaza Strip to see the current status of those Palestinians whose houses were destroyed during the last offensive in the beginning of 2009. He found them in a miserable life waiting for Israel to allow the building materials to rebuild their houses.

Here is a sample of what he found:

 

[Azzurri7]

What? :wth: I said I asked you this question and you answered me that. You said you didn't remember it and I showed you that post

No, here's what you said earlier...

I once asked you would you kill the children of those who killed your grandfather? Would you steal the house of the children of those who stole your grandfather's house and what's the difference between you and those criminals then? And you said: the difference is that the place is MY home. You basically said you'd kill the children of those who killed your people. You'd kill someone to punish someone else and that's a crime. You are committing one too.

And I asked you to show me the post of these questions and the post of my answers related to the questions that you asked me.

I don't remember being asked these questions.

The link you posted of my post has no connection to what I required from you.

What question? I don't blame you for defending your family or for killing someone who wants to kill your family.

Then based on what do you judge my action and say there's no difference between me and the Zionists if you already know and if you already think it's okay to defend your family?

Or is there any other way to defend your family? If you know one please tell me.

I thought you said you'd kill them all, no matter if it is a kid whose only fault is that his father is killing your people.

Of course I would kill them all. Be it anyone, but you're making it as if it's my passion to kill young kids. For the million times and last time, I said I would kill anyone be it smallest to tallest, youngest to oldest, prettiest to ugliest but not to see my country, my home turning into another Palestine.

 

[Azzurri7]

Reuters photographer decided to go to Beit Lahya today in north Gaza Strip to see the current status of those Palestinians whose houses were destroyed during the last offensive in the beginning of 2009. He found them in a miserable life waiting for Israel to allow the building materials to rebuild their houses.

Here is a sample of what he found:

According to Hoori and Seven it's all okay. These babies can suffer, starve to death, sleep on a sand, so long you don't seem/look/act aggressive to the world and give them unaccepted image of yourself. You should look civilized to the rest of the world by allowing them to make you suffer. This way you'll send them a message of how much you're suffering and guess what? THEY WILL REACT IMMEDIATELY TRYING TO HELP YOU OUT.

 

[Seven]

According to Hoori and Seven it's all okay. These babies can suffer, starve to death, sleep on a sand, so long you don't seem/look/act aggressive to the world and give them unaccepted image of yourself. You should look civilized to the rest of the world by allowing them to make you suffer. This way you'll send them a message of how much you're suffering and guess what? THEY WILL REACT IMMEDIATELY TRYING TO HELP YOU OUT.

That's not what we said at all.