Israeli-Palestinian conflict (41 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

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  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

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  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

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tibike

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Azzurri7 said:
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By attacking Israel less? How are the Lebanese attacking them? Palestinians on the other hand even though they're not attacking them they have all the right because it's their home, their country, their land.
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I'm not saying you are constantly attacking them. But every time some Palestinian or Lebanese attacks Israel, no matter how small that attack is, you're back to square one in the eyes of most of the Europeans. Now, I'm not saying it's not propaganda, it most certainly is, but that's how it seems to work. Israel gave you a perfect opportunity to swing the momentum of public support to your side, and finally, after 60 years, to resolve the conflict. If you want to fuck it up by declaring war on Israel, hey, that's your call.
 

tibike

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Turk_Bianconero said:
I never said every nation should have its own country and Kurds never had their own country. Its not like we came and steal their home like israeli did.Kurds were loyal to Turks for almost 1000 years until ultra nationalist kemalists takeover the power. Even today most of them(Muslim majority) don't want a separate country except marxist extremist minority.
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I misunderstood your position, then. I still don't agree with it, though.
 
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Europe and America consider Hamas and Hezbollah terrorist organisations that's why they won't support the Palestinian cause. like it or not but it's as simple as that
and without their support you'll never be able to win over Israel
don't kid yourself, why do you think a country like Iran hasn't attacked Israel so far?
in Europe there is some support for Palestinians but more for the people, they detest Hamas
 
Azzurri7

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tibike said:
If a Mossad agent is reading this thread, he must be laughing out loud in his office. Israel fucks up big time, and their opponents want to fuck it up even more.
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Negative. Agent Mossads do no wrongs or mistakes. Killing innocents is.their profession is what they're trained;). So your analogy is pretty much wrong.
 

tibike

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Azzurri7 said:
This is like hey, kill me more, kill my family my relatives and you might as-well rape them all before killing them while I'll try to change world's public opinion and let them hate you the way I do. I wont defend myself so that public opinion doesn't turn against me. Yeah, MAKES SENSE.
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It did work for Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. And for the suffragettes, and, well, any other activist in Europe or the US, that has actually achieved something.
 

Turk_Bianconero

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An Algerian activist, who only gave her first name as Sabrina, accused Israeli commandos of taking a 1-year-old child “hostage.”

“They point a gun to his head in front of his Turkish parents to force the captain of our ship to stop sailing,” she said.

Norman Paech, a former member of Germany's Left Party who was aboard the Mavi Marmara, said the ship was surrounded by small Israeli assault boats around 4:30 a.m. Monday. “Moments later, we heard detonations, and then soldiers from helicopters above us dropped down on board,” Paech said. “The soldiers were all masked, carrying big guns -- and were extremely brutal.”

German Left Party lawmaker Inge Hoeger, who was also on the Mavi Marmara, condemned the raid as a “war crime.”

“We felt like we were in the middle of a war, like we'd been kidnapped,” said Hoeger. “What the Israelis did is a violation of international law.”

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/n...tivists-tell-of-brutal-israeli-treatment.html
 
Seven

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Turk_Bianconero said:
An Algerian activist, who only gave her first name as Sabrina, accused Israeli commandos of taking a 1-year-old child “hostage.”

“They point a gun to his head in front of his Turkish parents to force the captain of our ship to stop sailing,” she said.

Norman Paech, a former member of Germany's Left Party who was aboard the Mavi Marmara, said the ship was surrounded by small Israeli assault boats around 4:30 a.m. Monday. “Moments later, we heard detonations, and then soldiers from helicopters above us dropped down on board,” Paech said. “The soldiers were all masked, carrying big guns -- and were extremely brutal.”

German Left Party lawmaker Inge Hoeger, who was also on the Mavi Marmara, condemned the raid as a “war crime.”

“We felt like we were in the middle of a war, like we'd been kidnapped,” said Hoeger. “What the Israelis did is a violation of international law.”

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/n...tivists-tell-of-brutal-israeli-treatment.html
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Sabrina should be put behind bars and I think that we should start looking for other parents for the child. What she did is not acceptable.
 
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ReBeL

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    Seven said:
    Sabrina should be put behind bars and I think that we should start looking for other parents for the child. What she did is not acceptable.
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    Why is that? IS it normal that aliens come over a peaceful ship in the international waters killing and injuring people?

    The boy's mother never thought of risking her son's life. She thought this world has some dignity that forbids retards from attacking civilians in the international water. It is not her fault that this world does not respect anybody but Zionists.
     
    Seven

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    ReBeL said:
    Why is that? IS it normal that aliens come over a peaceful ship in the international waters killing and injuring people?

    The boy's mother never thought of risking her son's life. She thought this world has some dignity that forbids retards from attacking civilians in the international water. It is not her fault that this world does not respect anybody but Zionists.
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    They were going there because they thought the Israelis were animals to begin with. So yes, they could expect something like that to happen. And even if it didn't happen, no one would consider it a safe thing to do anyway.

    So yes, she did risk her son's life. Turk bringing this up is another sign of just how bad you guys are when it comes to PR.
     

    tibike

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    Turk_Bianconero said:
    We can't be that bad when it comes to PR as they are the one who are aiming a one-year old in more than 600 people in ship.
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    Turk, why was the one year old there in the first place? He's not Palestinian, so he's not returning to his homeland, and as a one year old, he clearly has no capacity of distributing humaritanian aid or helping the needy.
     
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    ReBeL

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    Before few days, A Zionist settler in Hebron used his car to hit a Palestinian couple. They were critically injured. The wife died after few hours.

    The husband has just passed away.

    RIP.
     
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