Israeli-Palestinian conflict (41 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

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  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

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  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

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ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
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    Yeah, Nicaragua, that's the ally you needed. Now you can go to war.
    You are talking as if the war is something optional in our life. It is imposed on us, Seven. We did not choose to live in a war for more than 62 years now.

    Even a minority of idiots within the Palestinian people thought that peace is possible with Zionist criminals. They tried their luck for more than 15 years now, and the result was a big "Fuck you" from Israel to them.

    Those in Israel can be faced with just one way, Organized military work. Until that happens in a proper way, we have to welcome any such move by Nicaragua or any country in the world that will isolate Israel more and more.
     

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    Jul 2, 2006
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    icεmαή;2516836 said:
    Any names/nationalities released about the people who were killed?
    9 martyr. 4 of them are surely Turk. Other 5 are most probably Turk too.

    I seriously wouldn't mind fighting them tonight before tomorrow. It's time to set those criminals back to God.
    Doomsday will not come before israel face its end. When and how i don't know but their end will be worse than what Romans did before.
     

    Azzurri7

    Pinturicchio
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    Dec 16, 2003
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    You are for fighting with Israel. I'm not. You are the weaker party. More and more deaths to your people is not what you would want. Rab, no one cares about the people who are being killed in wars. That is a war, you kill and you are killed. There is no pity for those who are losing their lives in a war.
    I'm for fighting Israel not because I chose to fight them but because of the current consequences and because it threatens my existence and my family's existence not to forget my country mostly.

    We are the weaker party? I don't think so. Not anymore. Read this carefully..

    Hassan Nasrallah speech February 17th 2010 to the Israeli's: If you hit Beirut, we will hit Tel Aviv.
    If you target Beirut's Rafik Hariri's International Airport we will strike Tel Aviv’s Ben Gurion International Airport.

    “If you target our electricity stations and plants, we will target yours.”

    We in Lebanon, the Resistance, people and national army are able to protect Lebanon,” Nasrallah said, adding, “We do not need anyone [else] to protect Lebanon.”

    “Israel can no longer launch any new assault without guaranteeing its own victory,” he said.

    “Tel Aviv cannot accept any new failure, because it would mean the beginning of its [Israel’s] end.”

    There's no more we are weaker party. Israel at this very moment has got nothing on Hezbollah and Lebanon. They hit, we hit back, they striker we striker back. They know this, their people know this, their secret service know this and that's why they are threatening Lebanon daily because they can't do more than threatening nowadays.

    Tell me what do you think and before anyone makes any analysis let me tell you that Hassan Nasrallah has never lied concerning anything. When he says we will do this, he's done it, when he says we can this or that it means he can. And 2006 July proves that he's honest and very in everything he says.

    Of course. And you haven't been successful to convince the public. No matter how brainwashed people are by the media and no matter how much Israel is controlling the world's money, for 60 years you have not been convincing enough to the public world. That's the only thing which really matters.
    Is this supposed to be a joke? People will have to wait for massacre like this to take place everyday so we can convince the public world?

    What do you suggest? How can someone convince the public? What's your way of convincing the public, in what way exactly? If it's as easy as you make it sound.
     

    Seven

    In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
    Jun 25, 2003
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    Is this supposed to be a joke? People will have to wait for massacre like this to take place everyday so we can convince the public world?

    What do you suggest? How can someone convince the public? What's your way of convincing the public, in what way exactly? If it's as easy as you make it sound.
    Israel has global brands, officials that come across as rational and influence in the countries that play the biggest roles on the international stage.

    You have someone who to 90% of the world looks like a lunatic screaming his lungs out about how he's going to war.
     
    Jul 2, 2006
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    (AFP) – 13 hours ago

    JERUSALEM — Lebanon's military fired anti-aircraft artillery at Israeli warplanes that were flying over Lebanon, a senior Israeli security official said on Tuesday.

    "Our aircraft have been targeted by the Lebanese anti-aircraft guns while flying over southern Lebanon, and there was no damage," the official who requested the anonymity told AFP.

    A military spokesperson neither confirmed nor denied the report.

    Lebanon issues almost daily reports of Israeli violations of its air space, but its military rarely opens fire unless the planes fly within range of its guns.

    The overflights violate UN Security Council Resolution 1701, which ended a devastating 2006 war between Israel and Lebanon's Shiite Hezbollah militia, but Israel argues they are needed to monitor arms smuggling.
     
    Jul 2, 2006
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    Exactly. Yet you're a fan of the Romans and an enemy of the Israelis...
    I am not fan of anybody. I just said second and last israel's end will be more destructive than first one.

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    Similarities between PKK, Israel attacks raise suspicions

    The common characteristics of an assault carried out by the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) and an Israeli attack on a humanitarian aid convoy in international waters have raised suspicions over whether the two incidents are related.

    A rocket attack by terrorists on a naval base killed seven soldiers and wounded six others in the southern province of Hatay’s İskenderun district on Monday shortly after midnight. After a couple of hours, Israeli commandoes attacked a six-ship convoy carrying hundreds of pro-Palestinian activists on an aid mission to the Gaza Strip and killed nine people and injured dozens.

    Some Turkish politicians have speculated over a possible relationship between the two deadly incidents. “We don’t think the incident [İskenderun attack] was coincidental,” Justice and Development Party (AK Party) Deputy Chairman Hüseyin Çelik said, speaking to reporters at AK Party headquarters in Ankara on Monday.

    “As the AK Party, we condemn the incidents strongly. Israel has torn down Gaza. They do not even let construction materials in. This will be a black mark on the history of humanity. An attack was carried out at our military unit in İskenderun. We condemn this, too. We do not think that it is a coincidence that these two attacks took place at the same time,” Çelik said.

    The newly elected chairman of the Republican People’s Party (CHP), Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu, also said the similarity between the incidents is meaningful. Speaking at a press conference held at party headquarters on Monday, Kılıçdaroğlu recalled that some circles are concerned about whether the İskenderun attack is related to Israel. “We feel deeply sorry about the incident in İskenderun. We must pay attention to the killings of seven soldiers. At a time when the Israeli army continues military operations, it is meaningful that such an incident took place in Turkey,” he said.

    Felicity Party (SP) leader Numan Kurtulmuş reacted harshly during a press conference held at the İstanbul branch of the party. While pointing out the timing of both incidents, Kurtulmuş said he hoped the attacks were not related to each other. “Our soldiers were attacked in Turkey. I hope it was a coincidence that Israel began to attack the ship after a brutal attack on a Turkish Naval Forces base in İskenderun. May Allah bless the souls of those martyrs who died in this vicious attack,” he said.
     
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    ReBeL

    The Jackal
    Jan 14, 2005
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    (AFP) – 13 hours ago

    JERUSALEM — Lebanon's military fired anti-aircraft artillery at Israeli warplanes that were flying over Lebanon, a senior Israeli security official said on Tuesday.

    "Our aircraft have been targeted by the Lebanese anti-aircraft guns while flying over southern Lebanon, and there was no damage," the official who requested the anonymity told AFP.

    A military spokesperson neither confirmed nor denied the report.

    Lebanon issues almost daily reports of Israeli violations of its air space, but its military rarely opens fire unless the planes fly within range of its guns.

    The overflights violate UN Security Council Resolution 1701, which ended a devastating 2006 war between Israel and Lebanon's Shiite Hezbollah militia, but Israel argues they are needed to monitor arms smuggling.
    The nice thing is that the Zionists use the same idiocy. They are moaning that their planes were targeted over Lebanon as if it is a normal thing to be over Lebanon. The same thing when they were crying because their soldiers were resisted on the ships as if their soldiers have the whole right to be everywhere.

    Similarities between PKK, Israel attacks raise suspicions

    The common characteristics of an assault carried out by the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) and an Israeli attack on a humanitarian aid convoy in international waters have raised suspicions over whether the two incidents are related.

    A rocket attack by terrorists on a naval base killed seven soldiers and wounded six others in the southern province of Hatay’s İskenderun district on Monday shortly after midnight. After a couple of hours, Israeli commandoes attacked a six-ship convoy carrying hundreds of pro-Palestinian activists on an aid mission to the Gaza Strip and killed nine people and injured dozens.

    Some Turkish politicians have speculated over a possible relationship between the two deadly incidents. “We don’t think the incident [İskenderun attack] was coincidental,” Justice and Development Party (AK Party) Deputy Chairman Hüseyin Çelik said, speaking to reporters at AK Party headquarters in Ankara on Monday.

    “As the AK Party, we condemn the incidents strongly. Israel has torn down Gaza. They do not even let construction materials in. This will be a black mark on the history of humanity. An attack was carried out at our military unit in İskenderun. We condemn this, too. We do not think that it is a coincidence that these two attacks took place at the same time,” Çelik said.

    The newly elected chairman of the Republican People’s Party (CHP), Kemal Kılıçdaroğlu, also said the similarity between the incidents is meaningful. Speaking at a press conference held at party headquarters on Monday, Kılıçdaroğlu recalled that some circles are concerned about whether the İskenderun attack is related to Israel. “We feel deeply sorry about the incident in İskenderun. We must pay attention to the killings of seven soldiers. At a time when the Israeli army continues military operations, it is meaningful that such an incident took place in Turkey,” he said.

    Felicity Party (SP) leader Numan Kurtulmuş reacted harshly during a press conference held at the İstanbul branch of the party. While pointing out the timing of both incidents, Kurtulmuş said he hoped the attacks were not related to each other. “Our soldiers were attacked in Turkey. I hope it was a coincidence that Israel began to attack the ship after a brutal attack on a Turkish Naval Forces base in İskenderun. May Allah bless the souls of those martyrs who died in this vicious attack,” he said.
    I really did not understand that operation of PKK. I thought only Kurds of North Iraq have connections with Israel.
     
    Jul 2, 2006
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    I really did not understand that operation of PKK. I thought only Kurds of North Iraq have connections with Israel.
    israel wants a puppet Kurdish nation which includes souteast of Turkiye and North Iraq. Other reason is our increasing relations with Iran and Syria. They think they are teaching a lesson. Since their connection is certain we have every right to support Hamas. None of the fuckers from UN can say a thing about it.
     

    tibike

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    Dec 11, 2007
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    Guys, Seven is right here. If you attack Israel under current circumstances, you'll lose. You'll lose a lot of public support. The thing is, most of the people over here in Europe know nothing about the point of view of Palestinians and Lebanese. Most of the folks here think all of you are suicidal terrorists. Unless you change that (by attacking Israel less and talking with the EU more), you won't win, full stop.
     

    tibike

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    Dec 11, 2007
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    israel wants a puppet Kurdish nation which includes souteast of Turkiye and North Iraq. Other reason is our increasing relations with Iran and Syria. They think they are teaching a lesson. Since their connection is certain we have every right to support Hamas. None of the fuckers from UN can say a thing about it.
    On one hand, you support the right for Palestinians to have their own country (which I support, too), on the other hand, you don't approve of the same right for Kurds.
     

    Azzurri7

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    Dec 16, 2003
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    Guys, Seven is right here. If you attack Israel under current circumstances, you'll lose. You'll lose a lot of public support. The thing is, most of the people over here in Europe know nothing about the point of view of Palestinians and Lebanese. Most of the folks here think all of you are suicidal terrorists. Unless you change that (by attacking Israel less and talking with the EU more), you won't win, full stop.
    :howler:

    By attacking Israel less? How are the Lebanese attacking them? Palestinians on the other hand even though they're not attacking them they have all the right because it's their home, their country, their land.
     
    Jul 2, 2006
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    On one hand, you support the right for Palestinians to have their own country (which I support, too), on the other hand, you don't approve of the same right for Kurds.

    I never said every nation should have its own country and Kurds never had their own country. Its not like we came and steal their home like israeli did. Kurds were loyal to Turks for almost 1000 years until ultra nationalist kemalists takeover the power. Even today most of them(Muslim majority) don't want a separate country except marxist extremist minority.
     

    Azzurri7

    Pinturicchio
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    Dec 16, 2003
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    You know what's funny? People saying how Lebanese or Palestinians should stop doing what they're doing to Israel and change public world opinion against Israel.


    Change what ffs when Palestinians kids are being killed?
    Change what when their women are being raped?
    Change what when their homeland is stolen with no right?
    Change what public opinion when they're committing massacres daily and there's no one to judge them?
    Change what public opinion when they killed over two thousands Lebanese civilians during 2006 July war?


    Fuck public opinion, only ignorants wouldn't see the devil from the good. The right from the wrong. The rapist from the honest.

    This is like hey, kill me more, kill my family my relatives and you might as-well rape them all before killing them while I'll try to change world's public opinion and let them hate you the way I do. I wont defend myself so that public opinion doesn't turn against me. Yeah, MAKES SENSE.
     

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