Israeli-Palestinian conflict (48 Viewers)

[The Curr]

In Dublin, Foreign Affairs Minister Michael Martin warned all diplomatic options were being considered -- including the expulsion of the Israeli ambassador, Dr Zion Evrony.

Mr Martin launched a scathing attack on the Israeli government, accusing it of "kidnapping" Irish citizens in international waters.

"These citizens did not enter Israel illegally -- they were essentially kidnapped from international waters, taken into Israel and are being asked to sign documents saying they entered illegally," the minister said.

The Department of Foreign Affairs confirmed that eight Irish citizens were among the activists caught up in the bloody operation. And the father of one activist Fiachra O'Luain said he had heard that his son had been injured in the raid.

 

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[Enron]

But it is somewhat understandable that Israel may have felt threatened and hence attacking the convoy was somewhat understandable?

I don't know if Israel felt threatened. I actually doubt that.

But the attacking of the convoy by them is understandable. After all it is Israel. They are scummy bastards when it comes to obeying rules of engagement and international law.

Now just because you can understand that attacking the convoy was a possibility doesn't justify or make it right.

It's a terrible act in my eyes, but I believe the activists expected it as a possibility.

 

[The Curr]

Irish citizens Shane Dillon, Fintan Lane and Fiachra O'Luain were on board Challenger II when it was boarded by Israeli armed forces.

Mr Dillon, who is in his mid-30s and from Dublin, was put on a flight home after he did not contest his deportation.

Mr Lane (42) and Mr O'Luain (27) are being held in a detention camp after they contested their deportations. They will be brought before a court within the next two days.

A ship carrying another five Irish activists, the MV Rachel Corrie, which set sail from Dundalk, Co Louth, two weeks ago, was last night continuing on its course, bound for Gaza.

Five Irish people are on board, including crew members, Derek and Jenny Graham from Ballina, Co Mayo. Passengers include former UN assistant secretary-general Denis Halliday; Nobel peace prize laureate Mairead Maguire and Caoimhe Butterly, from the Free Gaza group.

 

[Enron]

In Dublin, Foreign Affairs Minister Michael Martin warned all diplomatic options were being considered -- including the expulsion of the Israeli ambassador, Dr Zion Evrony.

Mr Martin launched a scathing attack on the Israeli government, accusing it of "kidnapping" Irish citizens in international waters.

"These citizens did not enter Israel illegally -- they were essentially kidnapped from international waters, taken into Israel and are being asked to sign documents saying they entered illegally," the minister said.

The Department of Foreign Affairs confirmed that eight Irish citizens were among the activists caught up in the bloody operation. And the father of one activist Fiachra O'Luain said he had heard that his son had been injured in the raid.

I've been wondering this the whole time, if a few nations revoked their recognition of Israel as a nation. Could this be considered an act of piracy?

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

netanyahu just said they will release 680 captives and send them back. i love how they are doing it like doing a favour and showing their compassion. Like releasing prisoners of war without ransom.

 

[Fred]

I don't know if Israel felt threatened. I actually doubt that.

But the attacking of the convoy by them is understandable. After all it is Israel. They are scummy bastards when it comes to obeying rules of engagement and international law.

Now just because you can understand that attacking the convoy was a possibility doesn't justify or make it right.

It's a terrible act in my eyes, but I believe the activists expected it as a possibility.

I think this may be true. Most of those activists are smart people that aren't naive enough to think that Israel would take some sort of measure. Though i suspect that they didn't really expect to be shot at and killed, thats a bit too extreme, even for Israel.

 

[The Curr]

I've been wondering this the whole time, if a few nations revoked their recognition of Israel as a nation. Could this be considered an act of piracy?

Even if they didn't revoke their recognition of Israel, they still took them from international waters where Israel had no jurisdiction.

 

[Enron]

Even if they didn't revoke their recognition of Israel, they still took them from international waters where Israel had no jurisdiction.

The only problem is that nations cannot commit acts of piracy. Taking away recognition of Israel as a nation and declaring the acts piracy would be a clever way of skirting the whole "act of war" issue.

 

[Seven]

You won't share a Guinness with me?

I actually find it remarkable that Turk hasn't stated that alcohol is a zionist invention so far.

An Irish ship is continuing as planned.

Now this should be interesting.

 

[The Curr]

Irish Taoiseach (Primer Minister), Brian Cowen: "If any harm comes to any of our citizens it will have the most serious consequences."

:dielaugh: Yeah right, Brian. What are you going to do that will harm Israel?

 

[Seven]

Irish Taoiseach (Primer Minister), Brian Cowen: "If any harm comes to any of our citizens it will have the most serious consequences."

:dielaugh: Yeah right, Brian. What are you going to do that will harm Israel?

He's not going to do anything, but it will have major implications.

 

[ReBeL]

Some of the weapons found on the ships by Israeli port workers:

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

Some of the weapons found on the ships by Israeli port workers:

why is that pikachu looks fat? must be a bomb!

did you see blue turtle? Hamas will use it in bunker construction.

 

[ReBeL]

why is that pikachu looks fat? must be a bomb!

did you see blue turtle? Hamas will use it in bunker construction.

Israel's problem is that Associated Press photographers can't fabricate photos for them.

 

[Enron]

That's brilliant. Israel have really screwed it on this one.

 

[Bjerknes]

Maybe they just really wanted some blue soccer balls.

 

[Fred]

why is that pikachu looks fat? must be a bomb!

did you see blue turtle? Hamas will use it in bunker construction.

 

[Bjerknes]

I wonder when Tehran will be nuked. That will be interesting.

 

[Azzurri7]

Was Israel wrong? Yes. Should Isreal be punished? Yes. Did innocent people die? Questionable.

It would have been questionable had they shown the names of the suspected ones or had they shown what is exactly going on. But because they're hiding all facts then it's no where to be questionable.

Because I'm not a Mexican or a Jew or a Chinese.

 

[king Ale]

Irish Taoiseach (Primer Minister), Brian Cowen: "If any harm comes to any of our citizens it will have the most serious consequences."

:dielaugh: Yeah right, Brian. What are you going to do that will harm Israel?

These "serious consequences" would hopefully mean a lot to the Palestinians. I'm looking forward to seeing a day when this is not only shitty governments like Iran (who are having problems with the whole world except for Omar Bashir and Mugabe) supporting Palestinians. Israel becoming more and more secluded, more people all over the world becoming disapproved of what Israel is doing in Gaza is what Palestinians need instead of calling for more wars waiting for a miracle to happen and "the day to come".