Israeli-Palestinian conflict (20 Viewers)

[Bjerknes]

You understand my point now, Andy?

There is a difference in those pictures, you know.

 

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[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Exactly. We don't make decisions based on pictures of an angry mob, so it insults us when someone makes it look as if we do and that's what ReBeL does. Turk does the same, he shows a picture of nothing, then tells us it's a death list. Every time they do something like that, I'm less and less interested in what they have to say.

That shit is funny...

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

You don't stand a chance, Turk.

if you don't mean nuclear weapons i still can't see what is worrying about a illegal country which building walls because fear of Hamas and Hezbollah.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

There is a difference in those pictures, you know.

They are much more frightening.

 

[Seven]

They're just posting pictures. It's not a big deal, dude. Grow up Andries.

You still don't get it. God, you're just a kid when it comes to these things. It's as if you're not able to make an abstraction.

Look, generally I'm agreeing with them here. But posting pictures will hurt their cause. Not because I will change my opinion, but because that's what people who matter think, they think of a Turkish mob as well annoying. They don't care what they have to say, they're even a bit disgusted by them. They will listen to that Israeli official sitting next to them though.

But hey, Andy, you go ahead, you can think international politics are not decided when top officials go and get drinks.

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

if you don't mean nuclear weapons i still can't see what is worrying about a illegal country which building walls because fear of Hamas and Hezbollah.

Dude, you have been posting here for years, and your English has never gotten any better.

 

[IrishZebra]

Cobra and Mouse

At least you're admitting that humanitarians are Israels natural prey.

 

[Seven]

if you don't mean nuclear weapons i still can't see what is worrying about a illegal country which building walls because fear of Hamas and Hezbollah.

They're far superior to you when it comes to the military and they'll have support from the US and Europe if you declare war.

You'll suffer for the next 50 years. You really shouldn't talk about things you know nothing about, Turk. War is not an option. It almost never is and it most certainly isn't now.

 

[Bjerknes]

Seven always defends the UN, yet Israel continues to break Geneva Convention stipulations with the segregation walls and also violates UN resolutions regarding Palestinian land.

 

[IrishZebra]

You forgo to mention that the existence of Israel goes against fundemental customary norms of both state building and human rights.

 

[Seven]

Seven always defends the UN, yet Israel continues to break Geneva Convention stipulations with the segregation walls and also violates UN resolutions regarding Palestinian land.

The fuck? What kind of random statement is this? I even condemned the UN last time. No, you got it all wrong. What I always say is that if you want to change something, you have to use the UN. It's the only option, but it's a slow process.

 

[IrishZebra]

Yeah my Jewish neighbor keeps shooting at me whenever I give money to the town beggar.

I'd be more than willing to have a reasoned debate with you about Israel should you so wish.

 

[Seven]

You forgo to mention that the existence of Israel goes against fundemental customary norms of both state building and human rights.

It does not.

 

[IrishZebra]

The fuck? What kind of random statement is this? I even condemned the UN last time. No, you got it all wrong. What I always say is that if you want to change something, you have to use the UN. It's the only option, but it's a slow process.

Slow and Geopolitically impossible aren't the same thing.

 

[Seven]

Slow and Geopolitically impossible aren't the same thing.

The other option is war which basically means extinction.

 

[IrishZebra]

It does not.

I will direct you to both the Badinter Arbitration decision of the Former Yugoslavia, The Montedvideo Convention, UN charter UDHR ECHR.

Aggressive war, crimes against humanity, war crimes, maritime piracy, genocide torture/inhuman treatment, self-determination of peoples.


Really take your pick, i'd be very interested to see how you can deny this.

 

[IrishZebra]

The other option is war which basically means extinction.

The only option is war, welcome to Realpolitik ruling the world since before Thucydides even picked up a pen.

 

[Enron]

Did the other ships get through? There were six right?




All the anger tends to take the focus off the real story. Civil disobedience, sticking it to the Zionist terror squad, etc.

I feel for the wounded and dead aboard the ship that was attacked, but on the real I think we had to expect Israel to react, they are after all Israel. This could be a huge media victory over Israel especially if it's spun properly by some of the European nations.

Don't expect much from the US we're too busy being buttfucked by British Petroleum to be bothered with much else at the moment. In addition to a majority of zealots being in our Congress.

 

[Seven]

I will direct you to both the Badinter Arbitration decision of the Former Yugoslavia, The Montedvideo Convention, UN charter UDHR ECHR.

Aggressive war, crimes against humanity, war crimes, maritime piracy, genocide torture/inhuman treatment, self-determination of peoples.


Really take your pick, i'd be very interested to see how you can deny this.

You said the mere existence of Israel was a violation of human rights. It isn't. None of the things above say it is. Not a very good job you did there, mate.

The only option is war, welcome to Realpolitik ruling the world since before Thucydides even picked up a pen.

Great. Bye then.

 

[Enron]

You forgo to mention that the existence of Israel goes against fundemental customary norms of both state building and human rights.

It's existence doesn't do that. It's actions do. And I'll agree that Israel does go against fundamental human rights.