So essentially we're applying general colonial logic to the unique case of Israel/Palestine?
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Like I said in our previous conversations, Northern Ireland is a completely separate issue which requires a new treaty etc.. and anything else that needs to make Northern Ireland part of a fully Irish coherent state. The Irish don't need to rebel against their English oppressor any more but the Palestinians have to. The Irish have a state, the Palestinians do not and are still in the process of reaching that state.
Jamal Zahalqa, an arab member in the Israeli Knesset was today in a program on the Israeli Tv when he was asked about his opinion about Israeli policy in Gaza. He said that Israel are doing nothing there, but killing innocent children. The program was stopped and he was forced to leave the studio immediately...
I think it's partly because we're not letting them to do that and we don't want democracy there.
I did a quick research, which is surely full of mistakes and you guys will forgive me (and maybe try to fix these mistakes).
I counted how big that potential Arab state will be, I approximately calculated the population, ethnic origin and religion in this potential state.
As criteria I used:
- Countries members of the Arab league
- Countries who aren't members of the Arab league but Arab is the official language
- Israel as a desired territory in this potential country
For many countries no official figures can be given, because their laws forbid population censuses and somewhere there are lot of irregularities when the censuses are made.
Here are the results:
The second largest country in the world after Russia. Spread on two continents. From the Atlantic Ocean on the east, through the Mediterranean, all the way to the Persian gulf and the Arabian sea, with territories down in the Mozambique Channel in the Indian ocean.
With the oil and other natural reserves, this will be quite an unpleasant rival, eh?
Lets look at the population now:
It's the 3rd most inhabited country in the world.
Lets see how many, approximately, of them are Arabs:
So around 268 100 000 are Arabs and ~104 000 000 aren't Arabs. That's quite a big number of non-Arabs, which is more than 1/4 of the population.
Religion wise:
So out of 372.6 million around 311 million are Muslim, or 83%.
Of course, here you have other divisions among the muslims, between sunni, shia and some other minor branches.
You can draw your conclusions, but to me it doesn't look like a state that the rest of the world, mainly the great powers, would like to exist.
I did a quick research, which is surely full of mistakes and you guys will forgive me (and maybe try to fix these mistakes).
I counted how big that potential Arab state will be, I approximately calculated the population, ethnic origin and religion in this potential state.
As criteria I used:
- Countries members of the Arab league
- Countries who aren't members of the Arab league but Arab is the official language
- Israel as a desired territory in this potential country
For many countries no official figures can be given, because their laws forbid population censuses and somewhere there are lot of irregularities when the censuses are made.
Here are the results:
The second largest country in the world after Russia. Spread on two continents. From the Atlantic Ocean on the east, through the Mediterranean, all the way to the Persian gulf and the Arabian sea, with territories down in the Mozambique Channel in the Indian ocean.
With the oil and other natural reserves, this will be quite an unpleasant rival, eh?
Lets look at the population now:
It's the 3rd most inhabited country in the world.
Lets see how many, approximately, of them are Arabs:
So around 268 100 000 are Arabs and ~104 000 000 aren't Arabs. That's quite a big number of non-Arabs, which is more than 1/4 of the population.
Religion wise:
So out of 372.6 million around 311 million are Muslim, or 83%.
Of course, here you have other divisions among the muslims, between sunni, shia and some other minor branches.
You can draw your conclusions, but to me it doesn't look like a state that the rest of the world, mainly the great powers, would like to exist.
Ahed Abu Ghulmi, a leader of PFLP, one of the left movements in Palestine, was today convicted of leading the military cell behind the assassination of the extremist Israeli minister Zaevi in 2001. Abu Ghulmi will have to spend a life sentence and 5 more years in the Israeli prison..
Here is Ahed...
Here is Ahed...
Alen, very great effort, I have to say...
You can remove Chad from there because Arabs are a small minority there. There are small Arab minorities in Chad, Mali, Niger and even in Iran, but these are not considered that material in their respective countries.
Eritrea is somehow vague for me as they are considered sometimes to be having Arab majority, but I have never seen an official confirmation for that.
You can remove Chad from there because Arabs are a small minority there. There are small Arab minorities in Chad, Mali, Niger and even in Iran, but these are not considered that material in their respective countries.
Eritrea is somehow vague for me as they are considered sometimes to be having Arab majority, but I have never seen an official confirmation for that.
Jamal Zahalqa, an arab member in the Israeli Knesset was today in a program on the Israeli Tv when he was asked about his opinion about Israeli policy in Gaza. He said that Israel are doing nothing there, but killing innocent children. The program was stopped and he was forced to leave the studio immediately...
