I believe Al Qaeda exists, but I don't believe it's such a strong organisation as everyone makes it out be. More like different radical groups who achieve quite a lot with very few means.
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Israeli-Palestinian conflict (67 Viewers)
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Andy looks like someone who just discovered that not everything the government tells him is true. He used to defend the US a bit too much and now he's doing the opposite. Perhaps I'm wrong, but that's what it looks like. I would almost call it a phase 
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Andy, you're now making it sound like we live in the Matrix
-Joseph Goebbels
No. At all. There is a big difference between resistaning the occupier and terrorism. Hamas never made any operation out of Palestine. So, it is doing its operations as freedom fighting. Freedom fighters can do all the required processes to free their lands from aliens.
Terrorism is when you go to another country and try to affect them negatively.
Terrorism is when you go to another country and try to affect them negatively.
It's no phase, it's an awakening. I'm actually trying to solve the problems we (Americans) have for the good of the nation.
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
-Joseph Goebbels
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”
-Joseph Goebbels
What I don't understand though is why you suddenly seem to automatically rate Arab news channels as automatic. That's odd behaviour for someone who says he wants to dismantle all lies.
How is that?Hold on here, I never stated I believe everything Al Jazeera, through their presenters and how their programs are arranged, tell me. Rather, I stated Al Jazeera English does a better job at covering both sides of the issue than American media (by far, it's not even comparable), so I pay attention to that channel as they allow representatives from both sides present their case, including Hamas leaders. They just label Hamas terrorists here and be done with it. Not fair in this case.
I think you're trying to discredit me in this issue Andries, and I'm not going to allow it to happen. What I ask of you is to put aside your disdain for Islam for a bit and look at this war as if it's not about religion.
I think you're trying to discredit me in this issue Andries, and I'm not going to allow it to happen. What I ask of you is to put aside your disdain for Islam for a bit and look at this war as if it's not about religion.
Well, it's difficult to think logically as a youngster, breaking out of the funk that is fed. I mean, even retired folks on their death bed believe that what they know as their home is flawless, even in spite of all they went through during the 30s, 40s and 60s. It's difficult to break out of the funk.
But what sets this apart from the Ranieri discussion is that things have been proven; the Iraq war was proven to be all about oil and monetary gains, the 9/11 commission report was proven to be a cover up, the Gulf of Tonkin was proven to be a false flag operation, et cetera. What Ranieri needs to do is prove to me he is capable to act sensibly and be the best manager for Juve, which he has not.
And lets not confuse sports and the lives of innocent people here.
But what sets this apart from the Ranieri discussion is that things have been proven; the Iraq war was proven to be all about oil and monetary gains, the 9/11 commission report was proven to be a cover up, the Gulf of Tonkin was proven to be a false flag operation, et cetera. What Ranieri needs to do is prove to me he is capable to act sensibly and be the best manager for Juve, which he has not.
And lets not confuse sports and the lives of innocent people here.
Ranieri didn't prove any shit! Way to early to tell us we were wrong about him. He made loads of mistakes, and he still does from time to time. But one thing is certain, things have changed recently, I started to see some positive things, then again, I wouldn't be surprised if he starts ruining again.. At the moment I am satisfied, but I still don't trust in him.
Islam is not what is causing this conflict, Andy. Perhaps I'd consider it to be one of the factors that makes it even worse, but unlike many others here I think the religion factor is not the most important one.
But even still. Why would my opinion be skewed? Why would I defend jews and bash muslims? I'd hate them both.
But even still. Why would my opinion be skewed? Why would I defend jews and bash muslims? I'd hate them both
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