Israeli-Palestinian conflict (136 Viewers)

[CheSchifo!]

no use talking to people who have yet to leave their basement

Not one argument, but many, many personal attacks. I used to think you were somewhat intelligent, but it turns out it was all superficial and fake.

 

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[CheSchifo!]

Until you include "Andy is a Nazi-sympathizer" in the same sentence.

I never said you were a Nazi sympathizer.

But you're using their words. Jewish conspiracy is something I wouldn't say that easily.

 

[Bjerknes]

I couldn't really care less, Andries. I'll continue having the same opinions regardless of whether Hitler claimed similar things.

Hitler wiped his ass too, you know.

 

[CheSchifo!]

I couldn't really care less, Andries. I'll continue having the same opinions regardless of whether Hitler claimed similar things.

Hitler wiped his ass too, you know.

Fine. You see a Jewish conspiracy, you can think they own all important western media, but I will continue to disagree. It happened once already and I'm not going to be one of the people letting it happen a second time. Apparently it's in some people's DNA to hate Jews, but it isn't in mine.

 

[Bjerknes]

As I've said time and time again, it's not about religion and Jews, but apparently you don't understand that either.

 

[CheSchifo!]

As I've said time and time again, it's not about religion and Jews, but apparently you don't understand that either.

I'm not the one seeing a Jewish conspiracy. Hell, I never said it was about religion. But come on, can you seriously read ReBeL's posts and say that doesn't reek of hate towards Jews in general? Can you even read your own and say that?

 

[Bjerknes]

You're blowing wind out of your ass again, Andries. I have no problem with Jews who practice their religion.

 

[Il Re]

Fine. You see a Jewish conspiracy, you can think they own all important western media, but I will continue to disagree. It happened once already and I'm not going to be one of the people letting it happen a second time. Apparently it's in some people's DNA to hate Jews, but it isn't in mine.

hating a jew just because he's a jew is wrong, but hating a jew that is a fucking cock and due to his actions? nothing wrong with that, the problem is when you label people as a whole based on the actions of some, "all jews" "all muslims".

now i'm not suggesting any conspiracy here, Im just curious to know you opinion on this, but if you look at hollywood for example, or the uk film industry, why is there a hugely dispropotionate (when you look at the population) amount of jewish actors and directors, producers etc, and don't tell me it's because jews are the best actors, and they're not israeli's, just jews in general or have a jewish mother.......

to deny that jews have a huge amount of control and influence on western media would be pretty moronic in my opinion

you've also got to consider that maybe jews havn't given you a reason to hate them............

 

[CheSchifo!]

hating a jew just because he's a jew is wrong, but hating a jew that is a fucking cock and due to his actions? nothing wrong with that, the problem is when you label people as a whole based on the actions of some, "all jews" "all muslims".

now i'm not suggesting any conspiracy here, Im just curious to know you opinion on this, but if you look at hollywood for example, or the uk film industry, why is there a hugely dispropotionate (when you look at the population) amount of jewish actors and directors, producers etc, and don't tell me it's because jews are the best actors, and they're not israeli's, just jews in general or have a jewish mother.......

to deny that jews have a huge amount of control and influence on western media would be pretty moronic in my opinion

you've also got to consider that maybe jews havn't given you a reason to hate them............

It's because New York Jews tend to be good at what they do. Jews have an influence on western media, because in some cases they own big companies or are simply rich. Nothing really wrong with that. People own media and those people happen to be Jewish. Just like there are a lot of rich muslims.

What is very dangerous is the technique some of you are using. You are saying that Jews have top jobs, therefore there might be some sort of conspiracy which in turn means that the Jews would be a lot worse than we think.

That, sir, is the exact technique used by Nazis in Germany. I'm not saying you are Nazist, I know none of you is, but I would be more cautious in using that sort of reasoning.

 

[Il Re]

It's because New York Jews tend to be good at what they do. Jews have an influence on western media, because in some cases they own big companies or are simply rich. Nothing really wrong with that. People own media and those people happen to be Jewish. Just like there are a lot of rich muslims.

What is very dangerous is the technique some of you are using. You are saying that Jews have top jobs, therefore there might be some sort of conspiracy which in turn means that the Jews would be a lot worse than we think.

That, sir, is the exact technique used by Nazis in Germany. I'm not saying you are Nazist, I know none of you is, but I would be more cautious in using that sort of reasoning.

i do understand what you are saying, and also understand that that is how the nazi's would reason it, but you cannot deny that there is something hugely unproportional, in terms of business, jews are very good, i've worked with some, no doubt about it, but in the film industry and media, i really cannot see that as a co-incidence, im not saying it's part of some crazy consipiricy, i just find it every so slightly fishy, nothing against jews themselves, i'm just don't buy into "theyr're just good at what they do" when it comes to the media and film and music industry, black people as a generalisation are good at sports one could say, look at a line up of 100m sprinters, so maybe one could use that as a counter argument to what i'm saying, i just think it's a tiny but suspect, if you're tlaking about business though, that is something different, and i don't deny that jews are good at that

anyway this is quite offtopic so i guess i'll leave it at that

 

[ßöмßäяðîëя]

Andy isn't a Nazi sympathizer, he's a Nazi.

SIEG HEIL!

 

[Il Re]

very interesting interviews with a rabbi against israel and zionism

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=PjWAGscG7rs
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=6RjnvQHWyLE

 

[Enron]

The Rabbi shouldn't have gone on Fix News. The journalist interviewing him is a dueche and doesn't let him make his point.

 

[Il Re]

The Rabbi shouldn't have gone on Fix News. The journalist interviewing him is a dueche and doesn't let him make his point.

yea i noticed that, he seemed like a decent guy (the rabbi)

i was a bit confused about this "jews should not have their own country" i mean, if muslims and christians do, why not them? i don't see the harm, obviously israel is terrible, but as a general point, i'm not sure why some jews believe they shouldn't have their own land?

 

[Enron]

yea i noticed that, he seemed like a decent guy (the rabbi)

i was a bit confused about this "jews should not have their own country" i mean, if muslims and christians do, why not them? i don't see the harm, obviously israel is terrible, but as a general point, i'm not sure why some jews believe they shouldn't have their own land?

From the Rabbi's perspective Judaism is a religion and a religion doesn't need it's own country. Based on his beliefs Jews as a people were meant to wander until the end of the world or whatever. So basically he's saying Jews should have land but just live a citizens in other countries.

 

[Bjerknes]

Those are the real Jews, the ones who actually adhere to the Torah. Most Zionists are fake Jews or not even Jewish whatsoever.

 

[Enron]

Those are the real Jews, the ones who actually adhere to the Torah. Most Zionists are fake Jews or not even Jewish whatsoever.

Nah, Israelis are Jewish just the same, they just misinterpret Judaism. Regardless of good or bad they're still Jews. Which is why guys like Rabbie Weis have to go on shows and make their points. We're all responsible for the radicals in our particular societies.

 

[Bjerknes]

Nah, Israelis are Jewish just the same, they just misinterpret Judaism. Regardless of good or bad they're still Jews. Which is why guys like Rabbie Weis have to go on shows and make their points. We're all responsible for the radicals in our particular society.

The Torah does state that there should be no secluded Jewish state. So, one could say that Zionist Jews are breaking the rules therein of their own book, thus making them not Jewish.

It's sort of like BD saying he doesn't do kosher, so Seven rips on him 24/7.

 

[Enron]

The Torah does state that there should be no secluded Jewish state. So, one could say that Zionist Jews are breaking the rules therein of their own book, thus making them not Jewish.

It's sort of like BD saying he doesn't do kosher, so Seven rips on him 24/7.

That really doesn't matter, because regardless of whether they are "true Jews" or not they still represent Judaism and their actions reflect a negative image on a grand scale. If you ignore those radicals, they still go on doing their thing and messing up your rap game. Men like Rabbi Weis absolutely have to speak out against the actions of Israel and can't just say "Oh they aren't real Jews". Instead they have to account for these radicals and attempt to shift the public image of Judaism in addition to showing the world that not all Jews are like that.

Now if only some Israeli Jews would come out and join men like Rabbi Weis.

 

[Enron]

It's sort of like BD saying he doesn't do kosher, so Seven rips on him 24/7.

I think that's b/s anyway. If the guy says he's Jewish, let him be Jewish.

In the words of Gary Busey, "How do you know? You weren't in my body".