Israeli-Palestinian conflict (48 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

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  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

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  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

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Bjerknes

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Mar 16, 2004
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Arabs blew up the Towers twice or tried to rather. Once in 1994 and the completion in 2001. I was merely helping your argument. But to answer your question...

Arabs tried to blow up the Twin Towers in 1994. But not much before 1994.
Source: The United States government, CIA Intelligence, US media.

Just wanted to throw that out there to be perfectly clear for everyone.
 

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PhRoZeN

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Mar 29, 2006
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"In 2004, Israel was receiving $2.16 billion a year in Foreign Military Financing (FMF) grants from the Department of Defense.[22] This amount has increased in recent years due to non-military economic aid being shifted to military aid.[23] A large proportion of this military aid is for the purchase of American military equipment only."

................why?
Commercialism. Coca Cola, Nestle, Nescafe, Yahoo, Caterpillar, Intel, IBM, Marks and Spencer.. the overwhelming and impressive giant list goes on.. imagine these guys taking there business elsewhere. Imagine media agencies sold out to private corner shop and so on. Zionists are good at blackmailing history has shown this. America's government needs them and they need America..
 
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ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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    Arabs blew up the Towers twice or tried to rather. Once in 1994 and the completion in 2001. I was merely helping your argument. But to answer your question...

    Arabs tried to blow up the Twin Towers in 1994. But not much before 1994.
    Well, but punishing more than 1 billion people because of two operations that are so fishy is something weird.
     

    Enron

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    Oct 11, 2005
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    Mexicans may form a threat to you because you have some borders with them.
    Mexicans will never be too much of a threat to take over the US for a few reasons. The first being the lack of fanatical religion between our two sides. Another thing is the US has a knack for accepting people from different cultures into the country, even though they may face a couple generations of "trouble", everyone eventually gets in. The reasons for keeping a closed boarder between the two nations are becoming fewer every year. I think an open boarder work permit system is inevitable in the future. As many Americans along the boarder work in Mexico. It's really a totally different situation in North America than the Middle East.
     

    GordoDeCentral

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    Mexicans will never be too much of a threat to take over the US for a few reasons. The first being the lack of fanatical religion between our two sides. Another thing is the US has a knack for accepting people from different cultures into the country, even though they may face a couple generations of "trouble", everyone eventually gets in. The reasons for keeping a closed boarder between the two nations are becoming fewer every year. I think an open boarder work permit system is inevitable in the future. As many Americans along the boarder work in Mexico. It's really a totally different situation in North America than the Middle East.
    it has nothing to do with fanaticism, when chili peppers become the commodity of the future you will have pablo's and juan's blowing up shit in NYC
     
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    ReBeL

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    Mexicans will never be too much of a threat to take over the US for a few reasons. The first being the lack of fanatical religion between our two sides. Another thing is the US has a knack for accepting people from different cultures into the country, even though they may face a couple generations of "trouble", everyone eventually gets in. The reasons for keeping a closed boarder between the two nations are becoming fewer every year. I think an open boarder work permit system is inevitable in the future. As many Americans along the boarder work in Mexico. It's really a totally different situation in North America than the Middle East.
    The last sentence of your post was exactly what I wanted to say to Vinny.
     

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    Well, but punishing more than 1 billion people because of two operations that are so fishy is something weird.
    The 1 billion are Muslims I am assuming.

    It's not too surprising, considering history show us punishment has been dealt out for things far less constructive. At the same time it doesn't mean the punishment is fair or right.
     

    Enron

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    it has nothing to do with fanaticism, when chili peppers become the commodity of the future you will have pablo's and juan's blowing up shit in NYC

    Sure it does. The entire reason for the continuous squabble in the Middle East is fanaticism. Don't think I'm just ragging on muslims here. You've got the idiot Zionists who believe they're entitled to all of Israel because some duesche wrote in a book that "they're the chosen people". And these crazies are surrounded by other crazies who worship a slightly different yet not different at all god who brightly decided to give them the same claim. So the Jew crazies feel they are "backed into a corner". And then you have the Palestinians who are forced to eat the brunt of the BS boiled up by both sides. Now not all of the muslims or jews in the middle east are not fanatics, but there are just enough of them to keep the pot boiling. And I'm not saying that religion is the entire reason for the crisis in the Middle East or Gaza, but it would be foolish to say religion and religious fanaticism do not play a part.
     

    GordoDeCentral

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    Sure it does. The entire reason for the continuous squabble in the Middle East is fanaticism. Don't think I'm just ragging on muslims here. You've got the idiot Zionists who believe they're entitled to all of Israel because some duesche wrote in a book that "they're the chosen people". And these crazies are surrounded by other crazies who worship a slightly different yet not different at all god who brightly decided to give them the same claim. So the Jew crazies feel they are "backed into a corner". And then you have the Palestinians who are forced to eat the brunt of the BS boiled up by both sides. Now not all of the muslims or jews in the middle east are not fanatics, but there are just enough of them to keep the pot boiling. And I'm not saying that religion is the entire reason for the crisis in the Middle East or Gaza, but it would be foolish to say religion and religious fanaticism do not play a part.
    not to derail this any further, it has absolutely nothing to do with muslims jews or martians, Bin Laden attacked america for one reason and one reason only, and had saudi arabia not have any oil that reason would not exist(our presence there). Sure the politicians will stir religious/nationalistic emotions to validate and legitimize their actions but trust me it's all about money and power; and like i said if the same was the case with mexico they d blow shit up too. Few people would let a bully just kick the shit out of them without remotely fighting back.
     

    Il Re

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    Jan 13, 2005
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    Intersting stuff

    Arsenal Football Club has just signed (26th February) a sponsorship deal to promote Israel as a tourist destination.


    The £350,000 agreement makes Israel Arsenal's "official and exclusive travel destination." Israel will be featured on digital perimeter boards and 450 high-definition LCD screens at the stadium on game days.[1] The tourism ministry will also have access to the club's official website Arsenal.com, database and magazine to promote Israel as a holiday destination [2]

    The televised ads will reach audiences of up to 700 million in an estimated 198 countries. The Israeli Tourism Ministry will also receive intellectual property rights, the use of the team logo and the right to use photos of the team and its players in ads. For an additional fee, Arsenal players will also appear in the ads.[3]

    The deal doesn't stop with promoting Israel but actually grants Israel a physical presence in the stadium. The Israeli Tourism Ministry can use the stadium's banquet hall twice a year and can organize an exhibition at the end of the playing season.[3] The stadium will also feature permanent sales tables for t-shirts.[4]

    The two-year sponsorship deal begins at the start of next football season in six months' time.

    With the world boycotting Israel as a tourist destination Israeli tourism minister Abraham Hirchson admitted employing Ernst & Young financial advisers to help develop a new strategy to entice people to Israel. He estimated that the sponsorship deal will bring in an additional 2 million tourist to Israel annually.[3]

    Arsenal's managing director, Keith Edelman at a press conference in Israel explained how Arsenal could help sell apartheid Israel: "We are the largest club in London and have 30 million fans around the world. We are in the forefront of the anti-racism campaign in England and have an excellent brand that can promote any product... we will assist Israel become a more popular destination". He also promised "when we find the time, club representatives and players will come to visit Israel,".[3]

    The Jerusalem Post has hinted that Arsenal's chief shareholder, Danny Fiszman, vice chairman David Dein and managing director Edelman have used their Jewish backgrounds to steer the club towards Israeli causes including setting up football academies in Israel [3] at a time when when Palestinian children are routinely targeted by israeli snipers whilst they play football.[5]

    The Israeli newspaper Haaretz confirmed this, quoting Uzi Gafni, a director of the Israeli Tourism ministry on the Arsenal deal as saying "I knew I needed someone with ties to Judaism, Edelman may not go to synagogue every Friday, but there are warm Jews at Arsenal who wanted to give something to Israel.".[6]
     

    Il Re

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    Jan 13, 2005
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    JUVENTUS DUMPS ISRAEL

    The tourism ministry has previously looked at tying up deals with Italian club Juventus, but this fell through after another sponsor, Libyan oil company Tamoil, opposed the move.[7] Tamoils agreement with Juventus involved an initial sum of €110 million to cover the period between July 2005 and July 2010, in exchange for which the Libyan-based oil company Tamoil will receive exclusive shirt sponsorship rights.for 5 years. A further €130 million has been agreed to cover the following 5 years, making the deal worth a total of €240 million.[8] Although the agreement did not bar Juventus from seeking other sponsors Tamoils 10 year shirt sponsorship deal gave it sufficient clout to convince Juventus to dump Israel.

    (both articles are slightly old)
     

    Juve_fanatic

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    Apr 5, 2006
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    Guys, did you hear that 70 000 students from Iran are ready to become suicide bombers?? namely, five student organisations from Iran and a conservative spiritual group started a registration last week for volonteers for suicide bombers. They have asked the president of Iran (Mahmud Ahmadinedjad) to allow them to conduct this suicide attacks but he hasnt answered them yet!!

    This is pretty fucked up right here!!
     

    Il Re

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    Jan 13, 2005
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    Guys, did you hear that 70 000 students from Iran are ready to become suicide bombers?? namely, five student organisations from Iran and a conservative spiritual group started a registration last week for volonteers for suicide bombers. They have asked the president of Iran (Mahmud Ahmadinedjad) to allow them to conduct this suicide attacks but he hasnt answered them yet!!

    This is pretty fucked up right here!!
    oh no, this could be bad.......
     

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