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AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
31,790
Can't read the full article because Bloomberg is being a bitch, but !!!!

Palestinian Authority Working With US on Postwar Plan for Gaza
  • Shtayyeh says in interview Hamas could join as junior partner
  • US-brokered proposals likely to be fiercely opposed by Israel
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...rity-working-with-us-on-postwar-plan-for-gaza

This could perhaps pave the way for eventual sovereignty and an actual end to the conflict.

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Got it.

The Palestinian Authority is working with US officials on a plan to run Gaza after the ongoing war is over, with one of its top leaders arguing that Israel’s aim to fully defeat Hamas is unrealistic and the militant group should instead join a new governing structure.

Speaking to Bloomberg in his Ramallah office on Thursday, Palestinian Prime Minister Mohammad Shtayyeh said his preferred outcome of the conflict would be for Hamas to become a junior partner under the Palestinian Liberation Organization, helping to build a new independent state that includes the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem.

“Hamas before October 7 is one thing and after it is another thing,” said Shtayyeh, a 65-year-old economist who’s been managing the Palestinian Authority under President Mahmoud Abbas since 2019. “If they are ready to come to an agreement and accept the political platform of the PLO, then there will be room for talk. Palestinians should not be divided.”

Yet that proposal contradicts what Israel says it sees as the future of the impoverished coastal strip of 2.2 million, where its military launched an air and ground campaign to destroy Hamas after the group’s attack on Oct. 7, when some 1,200 people were killed and 240 taken hostage.

Israel says it won’t stop its campaign until Hamas is eradicated. It says no group based in Gaza should be able to threaten it again — and that means patrolling the territory for the foreseeable future.

US officials visited Shtayyeh earlier this week to discuss a plan for the day after the war in Gaza, the Palestinian official said. Both sides agreed that Israel shouldn’t reoccupy Gaza, reduce its land for a buffer zone or drive Palestinians out. That suggests plenty of friction ahead.

“We’re not going to go there on an Israeli military plan,” Shtayyeh said. “Our people are there. We need to put together a mechanism, something we’re working on with the international community. There will be huge needs in terms of relief and reconstruction to remedy the wounds.”

Shtayyeh will fly to Qatar this weekend to ask Doha to switch its substantial financial support for Hamas of recent years over to the Palestinian Authority.

Gaza Destruction

Israel’s campaign to dismantle Hamas’s military and political structures both above ground and in a complex tunnel network has killed more than 16,000 Palestinians, according to the Hamas-run health ministry, and large areas have been reduced to rubble. It’s now Israel’s longest war since 1948.

Under Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel not only wants to destroy Hamas — considered a terrorist organization by the US and European Union — but doesn’t trust the Palestinian Authority to pursue peaceful coexistence. It opposes a two-state solution and is hoping to cultivate a new technocratic leadership within Gaza as an alternative to Shtayyeh and Abbas.

Shtayyeh’s idea that Hamas, which rejects the existence of Israel, might join together with the Authority, seems optimistic. Hamas pushed the party out of Gaza following a 2007 civil war, and four subsequent agreements between the sides haven’t been implemented.

Asked why Israel can’t eliminate Hamas, Shtayyeh said: “Hamas is in Lebanon, everybody knows Hamas leadership is in Qatar and they are here in the West Bank.”

Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders have expressed anger that top Palestinians like Shtayyeh haven’t condemned the slaughter of Oct. 7. Asked to do so in the interview, Shtayyeh demurred, saying the conflict didn’t begin on that date and Israeli officials have refused to condemn things done by their citizens to Palestinians.

“What Israel is doing in Gaza is an act of revenge,” he said. “This is not going to take them anywhere.” At least half a million Gazans are likely to be homeless after the war, he added.

Shtayyeh, who’s worked in the Palestinian Authority for years after teaching economics and being a university administrator, said both Palestinian and Israeli youths are growing more militant and the chance for a peaceful agreement between the two sides is fading fast.

He said ministers in his government have repeatedly reached out to Israeli counterparts but have been rebuffed.

“Unfortunately, there is no partner on the other side,” he said, an echo of what Israelis say about Palestinians. “Look at what Netanyahu has been saying — no return to the Palestinian Authority, no two-state solution. What does this mean? Netanyahu wants a continuation of a military occupation of the Palestinian territory. This is not acceptable.”
 
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Oggy

and the Cockroaches
Dec 27, 2005
7,512
Can't read the full article because Bloomberg is being a bitch, but !!!!

Palestinian Authority Working With US on Postwar Plan for Gaza
  • Shtayyeh says in interview Hamas could join as junior partner
  • US-brokered proposals likely to be fiercely opposed by Israel
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...rity-working-with-us-on-postwar-plan-for-gaza

This could perhaps pave the way for eventual sovereignty and an actual end to the conflict.

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Got it.

The Palestinian Authority is working with US officials on a plan to run Gaza after the ongoing war is over, with one of its top leaders arguing that Israel’s aim to fully defeat Hamas is unrealistic and the militant group should instead join a new governing structure.

Speaking to Bloomberg in his Ramallah office on Thursday, Palestinian Prime Minister Mohammad Shtayyeh said his preferred outcome of the conflict would be for Hamas to become a junior partner under the Palestinian Liberation Organization, helping to build a new independent state that includes the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem.

“Hamas before October 7 is one thing and after it is another thing,” said Shtayyeh, a 65-year-old economist who’s been managing the Palestinian Authority under President Mahmoud Abbas since 2019. “If they are ready to come to an agreement and accept the political platform of the PLO, then there will be room for talk. Palestinians should not be divided.”

Yet that proposal contradicts what Israel says it sees as the future of the impoverished coastal strip of 2.2 million, where its military launched an air and ground campaign to destroy Hamas after the group’s attack on Oct. 7, when some 1,200 people were killed and 240 taken hostage.

Israel says it won’t stop its campaign until Hamas is eradicated. It says no group based in Gaza should be able to threaten it again — and that means patrolling the territory for the foreseeable future.

US officials visited Shtayyeh earlier this week to discuss a plan for the day after the war in Gaza, the Palestinian official said. Both sides agreed that Israel shouldn’t reoccupy Gaza, reduce its land for a buffer zone or drive Palestinians out. That suggests plenty of friction ahead.

“We’re not going to go there on an Israeli military plan,” Shtayyeh said. “Our people are there. We need to put together a mechanism, something we’re working on with the international community. There will be huge needs in terms of relief and reconstruction to remedy the wounds.”

Shtayyeh will fly to Qatar this weekend to ask Doha to switch its substantial financial support for Hamas of recent years over to the Palestinian Authority.

Gaza Destruction

Israel’s campaign to dismantle Hamas’s military and political structures both above ground and in a complex tunnel network has killed more than 16,000 Palestinians, according to the Hamas-run health ministry, and large areas have been reduced to rubble. It’s now Israel’s longest war since 1948.

Under Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel not only wants to destroy Hamas — considered a terrorist organization by the US and European Union — but doesn’t trust the Palestinian Authority to pursue peaceful coexistence. It opposes a two-state solution and is hoping to cultivate a new technocratic leadership within Gaza as an alternative to Shtayyeh and Abbas.

Shtayyeh’s idea that Hamas, which rejects the existence of Israel, might join together with the Authority, seems optimistic. Hamas pushed the party out of Gaza following a 2007 civil war, and four subsequent agreements between the sides haven’t been implemented.

Asked why Israel can’t eliminate Hamas, Shtayyeh said: “Hamas is in Lebanon, everybody knows Hamas leadership is in Qatar and they are here in the West Bank.”

Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders have expressed anger that top Palestinians like Shtayyeh haven’t condemned the slaughter of Oct. 7. Asked to do so in the interview, Shtayyeh demurred, saying the conflict didn’t begin on that date and Israeli officials have refused to condemn things done by their citizens to Palestinians.

“What Israel is doing in Gaza is an act of revenge,” he said. “This is not going to take them anywhere.” At least half a million Gazans are likely to be homeless after the war, he added.

Shtayyeh, who’s worked in the Palestinian Authority for years after teaching economics and being a university administrator, said both Palestinian and Israeli youths are growing more militant and the chance for a peaceful agreement between the two sides is fading fast.

He said ministers in his government have repeatedly reached out to Israeli counterparts but have been rebuffed.

“Unfortunately, there is no partner on the other side,” he said, an echo of what Israelis say about Palestinians. “Look at what Netanyahu has been saying — no return to the Palestinian Authority, no two-state solution. What does this mean? Netanyahu wants a continuation of a military occupation of the Palestinian territory. This is not acceptable.”
Well it’s not like there is anyone gonna left in Gaza.

Those israeli fuckers are killing everyone.

I understand that this thread is became slower, but the level of attrocities is bigger than ever. No san person can defend it.
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,321
Can't read the full article because Bloomberg is being a bitch, but !!!!

Palestinian Authority Working With US on Postwar Plan for Gaza
  • Shtayyeh says in interview Hamas could join as junior partner
  • US-brokered proposals likely to be fiercely opposed by Israel
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...rity-working-with-us-on-postwar-plan-for-gaza

This could perhaps pave the way for eventual sovereignty and an actual end to the conflict.

- - - Updated - - -

Got it.

The Palestinian Authority is working with US officials on a plan to run Gaza after the ongoing war is over, with one of its top leaders arguing that Israel’s aim to fully defeat Hamas is unrealistic and the militant group should instead join a new governing structure.

Speaking to Bloomberg in his Ramallah office on Thursday, Palestinian Prime Minister Mohammad Shtayyeh said his preferred outcome of the conflict would be for Hamas to become a junior partner under the Palestinian Liberation Organization, helping to build a new independent state that includes the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem.

“Hamas before October 7 is one thing and after it is another thing,” said Shtayyeh, a 65-year-old economist who’s been managing the Palestinian Authority under President Mahmoud Abbas since 2019. “If they are ready to come to an agreement and accept the political platform of the PLO, then there will be room for talk. Palestinians should not be divided.”

Yet that proposal contradicts what Israel says it sees as the future of the impoverished coastal strip of 2.2 million, where its military launched an air and ground campaign to destroy Hamas after the group’s attack on Oct. 7, when some 1,200 people were killed and 240 taken hostage.

Israel says it won’t stop its campaign until Hamas is eradicated. It says no group based in Gaza should be able to threaten it again — and that means patrolling the territory for the foreseeable future.

US officials visited Shtayyeh earlier this week to discuss a plan for the day after the war in Gaza, the Palestinian official said. Both sides agreed that Israel shouldn’t reoccupy Gaza, reduce its land for a buffer zone or drive Palestinians out. That suggests plenty of friction ahead.

“We’re not going to go there on an Israeli military plan,” Shtayyeh said. “Our people are there. We need to put together a mechanism, something we’re working on with the international community. There will be huge needs in terms of relief and reconstruction to remedy the wounds.”

Shtayyeh will fly to Qatar this weekend to ask Doha to switch its substantial financial support for Hamas of recent years over to the Palestinian Authority.

Gaza Destruction

Israel’s campaign to dismantle Hamas’s military and political structures both above ground and in a complex tunnel network has killed more than 16,000 Palestinians, according to the Hamas-run health ministry, and large areas have been reduced to rubble. It’s now Israel’s longest war since 1948.

Under Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel not only wants to destroy Hamas — considered a terrorist organization by the US and European Union — but doesn’t trust the Palestinian Authority to pursue peaceful coexistence. It opposes a two-state solution and is hoping to cultivate a new technocratic leadership within Gaza as an alternative to Shtayyeh and Abbas.

Shtayyeh’s idea that Hamas, which rejects the existence of Israel, might join together with the Authority, seems optimistic. Hamas pushed the party out of Gaza following a 2007 civil war, and four subsequent agreements between the sides haven’t been implemented.

Asked why Israel can’t eliminate Hamas, Shtayyeh said: “Hamas is in Lebanon, everybody knows Hamas leadership is in Qatar and they are here in the West Bank.”

Netanyahu and other Israeli leaders have expressed anger that top Palestinians like Shtayyeh haven’t condemned the slaughter of Oct. 7. Asked to do so in the interview, Shtayyeh demurred, saying the conflict didn’t begin on that date and Israeli officials have refused to condemn things done by their citizens to Palestinians.

“What Israel is doing in Gaza is an act of revenge,” he said. “This is not going to take them anywhere.” At least half a million Gazans are likely to be homeless after the war, he added.

Shtayyeh, who’s worked in the Palestinian Authority for years after teaching economics and being a university administrator, said both Palestinian and Israeli youths are growing more militant and the chance for a peaceful agreement between the two sides is fading fast.

He said ministers in his government have repeatedly reached out to Israeli counterparts but have been rebuffed.

“Unfortunately, there is no partner on the other side,” he said, an echo of what Israelis say about Palestinians. “Look at what Netanyahu has been saying — no return to the Palestinian Authority, no two-state solution. What does this mean? Netanyahu wants a continuation of a military occupation of the Palestinian territory. This is not acceptable.”
Yeah thats not going to happen..

I have a conspiracy theory regarding this whole situation which I wont share as I too as an outsider would think I gone out of my mind.
To the point:
War definitely suits Netanyahu`s agenda.
Hamas and US will never join forces in any kind of way due to Hamas being a terrorist organization and due to USA relations with Israel.

Up until now everything I thought about this situation went step by step as I thought it will and now I just fear about the next step.
As I see it - Its only a matter of time until a way more serious war occurs.
Soon it will not be just Hamas and Israel - It would also be Hizeballah, Syria and other countries which will lead to interference from the US - In other words - World War 3.
another world war is horrible for everyone.

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One of Hamas tactics is to dress up as journalists in order to sneak through and carry out ambush attacks, so you can’t blame Israel.
I just saw the link - Obviously I cant really know what really happened since they said they will investigate it themselves.
P.S its Al Jazeera.. I wouldnt be totally surprised if some of them have a link to Hamas - They are definitely pro Hamas so you never know (not saying they are or they arent just saying its not that unrealistic as you make it sounds)
 
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Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,321
stop starting them then.
1. What do you want from me - Im not the prime minister
2. Stop talking out your arse - Israel might do the most damage now but Israel definitely didnt started it - October 7th started it and its not even a question.

I might not be in complete agreement with my government decisions regarding well everything but it doesnt change other facts.

I wonder - Before everything happened and years before the "Marmaris" - Did you think the same or is it your prime minister decisions to have hugs and kisses with Iran that affected your mind like this.

Everyone is entitled to his own opinion and I wont take that from anyone but yours are so biased it completely ignores proven facts.

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How is US beating the shit out of middle east a WW3?
Yeah it might not just end with the US.. and its less about winners or losers for me - Im actually worried about people`s lives (of all countries) - In that case its horrible for everyone involved.
 
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Jul 2, 2006
19,435
1. What do you want from me - Im not the prime minister
2. Stop talking out your arse - Israel might do the most damage now but Israel definitely didnt started it - October 7th started it and its not even a question.

I might not be in complete agreement with my government decisions regarding well everything but it doesnt change other facts.

I wonder - Before everything happened and years before the "Marmaris" - Did you think the same or is it your prime minister decisions to have hugs and kisses with Iran that affected your mind like this.

Everyone is entitled to his own opinion and I wont take that from anyone but yours are so biased it completely ignores proven facts.

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Yeah it might not just end with the US.. and its less about winners or losers for me - Im actually worried about people`s lives (of all countries) - In that case its horrible for everyone involved.

I mean World Wars in general. Stop plotting for the demise of mankind, please. My thoughts are based on my own observation, i don't care about prime ministers or emperor of mankind's decisions.
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
31,790
Yeah thats not going to happen..

I have a conspiracy theory regarding this whole situation which I wont share as I too as an outsider would think I gone out of my mind.
To the point:
War definitely suits Netanyahu`s agenda.
Hamas and US will never join forces in any kind of way due to Hamas being a terrorist organization and due to USA relations with Israel.

Up until now everything I thought about this situation went step by step as I thought it will and now I just fear about the next step.
As I see it - Its only a matter of time until a way more serious war occurs.
Soon it will not be just Hamas and Israel - It would also be Hizeballah, Syria and other countries which will lead to interference from the US - In other words - World War 3.
another world war is horrible for everyone.
Why won't it happen? This goes back to what Seven was discussing with Tomice a while back, Israel is running low on good will of other states, and they need it to survive. Political pressure is mounting, especially now that we're entering an election year.

I don't think there will be any escalation from other parties because of current US presence in the region, we movies carriers to the coast for example and we have no qualms about leveling entire nations there, as we all know. But again, this goes back to the previous point as well. Increasingly, we're getting less and less out of this arrangement and at some point it will no longer be seen as effective imo, it's already increasingly unpopular with young voters now. Also this isn't really a war, Palestinians have no capability of fighting back.

As for negotiations, we just negotiated with the Taliban regarding Afghanistan. Hamas is nothing by comparison.
 

AFL_ITALIA

MAGISTERIAL
Jun 17, 2011
31,790
And then there's this.

Biden says Netanyahu must change, Israel losing global support

WASHINGTON, Dec 12 (Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden said on Tuesday that Israel is losing support over its "indiscriminate" bombing of Gaza and that Benjamin Netanyahu should change, exposing a new rift in relations with the Israeli prime minister.

Biden's remarks, made to donors to his 2024 re-election campaign, were his most critical to date of Netanyahu's handling of Israel's war in Gaza. They are a stark contrast to his literal and political embrace of the Israeli leader days after Hamas militants' Oct. 7 attack on southern Israel.

"Israel's security can rest on the United States, but right now it has more than the United States. It has the European Union, it has Europe, it has most of the world ... But they're starting to lose that support by indiscriminate bombing that takes place," Biden said.

Israel's retaliation against the Hamas attacks has killed 18,000, Gaza officials say, wounded 50,000 and created a humanitarian crisis. Biden's remarks opened a new window into his blunt private conversations with Netanyahu, with whom he has had deep disagreements for decades.

Biden alluded to a private conversation in which the Israeli leader said: "'You carpet bombed Germany, you dropped the atom bomb, a lot of civilians died.'"

Biden said he responded: "Yeah, that's why all these institutions were set up after World War Two to see to it that it didn't happen again ... don't make the same mistakes we made in 9/11. There's no reason why we had to be in a war in Afghanistan."

Biden, who often speaks off the cuff at his fundraising events, appeared at a Washington hotel with about a hundred people, including a number of Jewish attendees. He was introduced by a longtime leader within the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, a pro-Israel lobby.

Biden's sharp comments coincided with White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan preparing to travel to Israel for talks with the Israeli war cabinet.

Netanyahu said in a statement on Tuesday that Israel had received "full backing" from the U.S. for its ground incursion into Gaza and that Washington had blocked "international pressure to stop the war."

But he added: "There is disagreement about 'the day after Hamas' and I hope that we will reach agreement here as well."

PALESTINIAN STATE
At the fundraiser, Biden specifically mentioned Israel's far-right politician Itamar Ben-Gvir, who is Israel's national security minister, and said "this is the most conservative government in Israel's history."

Biden said Netanyahu must "change," adding that "this government in Israel is making it very difficult."

He also said that ultimately Israel "can't say no" to a Palestinian state, which Israeli hardliners oppose.

Biden said: "We have an opportunity to begin to unite the region ... and they still want to do it. But we have to make sure that Bibi (Netanyahu) understands that he's got to make some moves ... You cannot say no Palestinian state."

Netanyahu also said in Tuesday's statement he would "not allow Israel to repeat the mistake of Oslo," the 1990s peace accords that established the Palestinian Authority (PA) as part of negotiations for the creation of a potential Palestinian state in the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem.

Washington has said it envisions an eventual return by the PA to Gaza, which Hamas seized from the West Bank-based body in 2007.

"I will not allow the entry into Gaza of those who educate terrorism, support terrorism and finance terrorism," Netanyahu said. The PA denies such allegations.

Biden has expressed strong support for Israel's military operation against Hamas militants in Gaza but he and his team have expressed growing concern about the death of Palestinian civilians.

Biden plans to meet on Wednesday at the White House with family members of Americans taken hostage by Hamas during its Oct. 7 attack in which 1,200 people were killed, a White House official said.

Sullivan said on Tuesday that during his visit to Israel he will discuss with Israeli officials their timetable for the war in Gaza.

"The subject of how they are seeing the timetable of this war will certainly be on the agenda for my meetings," said Sullivan, who is expected to travel later this week.

Sullivan blamed Hamas for the breakdown of a truce from Nov. 24 to Dec. 1 because the militants refused to release more hostages.

What a piece of shit Netanyahu is, easily has to be the least likable politician currently active by a large margin.

Going to whataboutism the country keeping you alive, the arrogance :howler:. There you go @Seven
 

Elvin

Senior Member
Nov 25, 2005
36,923
And then there's this.

Biden says Netanyahu must change, Israel losing global support

WASHINGTON, Dec 12 (Reuters) - U.S. President Joe Biden said on Tuesday that Israel is losing support over its "indiscriminate" bombing of Gaza and that Benjamin Netanyahu should change, exposing a new rift in relations with the Israeli prime minister.

Biden's remarks, made to donors to his 2024 re-election campaign, were his most critical to date of Netanyahu's handling of Israel's war in Gaza. They are a stark contrast to his literal and political embrace of the Israeli leader days after Hamas militants' Oct. 7 attack on southern Israel.

"Israel's security can rest on the United States, but right now it has more than the United States. It has the European Union, it has Europe, it has most of the world ... But they're starting to lose that support by indiscriminate bombing that takes place," Biden said.

Israel's retaliation against the Hamas attacks has killed 18,000, Gaza officials say, wounded 50,000 and created a humanitarian crisis. Biden's remarks opened a new window into his blunt private conversations with Netanyahu, with whom he has had deep disagreements for decades.

Biden alluded to a private conversation in which the Israeli leader said: "'You carpet bombed Germany, you dropped the atom bomb, a lot of civilians died.'"

Biden said he responded: "Yeah, that's why all these institutions were set up after World War Two to see to it that it didn't happen again ... don't make the same mistakes we made in 9/11. There's no reason why we had to be in a war in Afghanistan."

Biden, who often speaks off the cuff at his fundraising events, appeared at a Washington hotel with about a hundred people, including a number of Jewish attendees. He was introduced by a longtime leader within the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, a pro-Israel lobby.

Biden's sharp comments coincided with White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan preparing to travel to Israel for talks with the Israeli war cabinet.

Netanyahu said in a statement on Tuesday that Israel had received "full backing" from the U.S. for its ground incursion into Gaza and that Washington had blocked "international pressure to stop the war."

But he added: "There is disagreement about 'the day after Hamas' and I hope that we will reach agreement here as well."

PALESTINIAN STATE
At the fundraiser, Biden specifically mentioned Israel's far-right politician Itamar Ben-Gvir, who is Israel's national security minister, and said "this is the most conservative government in Israel's history."

Biden said Netanyahu must "change," adding that "this government in Israel is making it very difficult."

He also said that ultimately Israel "can't say no" to a Palestinian state, which Israeli hardliners oppose.

Biden said: "We have an opportunity to begin to unite the region ... and they still want to do it. But we have to make sure that Bibi (Netanyahu) understands that he's got to make some moves ... You cannot say no Palestinian state."

Netanyahu also said in Tuesday's statement he would "not allow Israel to repeat the mistake of Oslo," the 1990s peace accords that established the Palestinian Authority (PA) as part of negotiations for the creation of a potential Palestinian state in the West Bank, Gaza and East Jerusalem.

Washington has said it envisions an eventual return by the PA to Gaza, which Hamas seized from the West Bank-based body in 2007.

"I will not allow the entry into Gaza of those who educate terrorism, support terrorism and finance terrorism," Netanyahu said. The PA denies such allegations.

Biden has expressed strong support for Israel's military operation against Hamas militants in Gaza but he and his team have expressed growing concern about the death of Palestinian civilians.

Biden plans to meet on Wednesday at the White House with family members of Americans taken hostage by Hamas during its Oct. 7 attack in which 1,200 people were killed, a White House official said.

Sullivan said on Tuesday that during his visit to Israel he will discuss with Israeli officials their timetable for the war in Gaza.

"The subject of how they are seeing the timetable of this war will certainly be on the agenda for my meetings," said Sullivan, who is expected to travel later this week.

Sullivan blamed Hamas for the breakdown of a truce from Nov. 24 to Dec. 1 because the militants refused to release more hostages.

What a piece of shit Netanyahu is, easily has to be the least likable politician currently active by a large margin.

Going to whataboutism the country keeping you alive, the arrogance :howler:. There you go @Seven
Putin. By far. By waay far.
 
Jun 16, 2020
12,435
Already said it before in this thread, my biggest fear of this war is radicalisation and the return of terrorism in Europe. The threat level has been increased by the government since today, going back to the level we had at the time of IS.

https://nos.nl/artikel/2501331-drei...na-hoogste-niveau-gevaar-jihadisme-toegenomen
A Hamas member got arrested here for planning a terrorist attack on Jews.

https://nos.nl/artikel/2501581-opge...rdachte-volgens-duitse-justitie-lid-van-hamas
 

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