Israeli-Palestinian conflict (80 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

  • Yes

  • No


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Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,351
if you dont believe in religion, then how do you believe in israel's right to exist?
I believe in people`s right to exist and while I dont believe in religion I do understand that there are people who are different from me and its ok as difference is not necessarily a bad thing
I do however think that the result of religions like lets kill whoever not following Allah or we are jews we are the chosen ones and also we called dibs on this land so its ours is pure crap that dont need to be in this world

different nations is good for perspectives and for culture but the problem is that people are taking it to other places

Anyway you from what I understand Ze Tahir Turk I see you all as people and not as arabs christian or whatever and even if you were all Iranian who seems to hate my country the most I wish you all the best (without my country being destroyed of course...)
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,876
I believe in people`s right to exist and while I dont believe in religion I do understand that there are people who are different from me and its ok as difference is not necessarily a bad thing
I do however think that the result of religions like lets kill whoever not following Allah or we are jews we are the chosen ones and also we called dibs on this land so its ours is pure crap that dont need to be in this world

different nations is good for perspectives and for culture but the problem is that people are taking it to other places

Anyway you from what I understand Ze Tahir Turk I see you all as people and not as arabs christian or whatever and even if you were all Iranian who seems to hate my country the most I wish you all the best (without my country being destroyed of course...)

and you dont see how that goes against 'israel's right to exist'? or at the very least how do you reconcile your love for peace and understanding with the way israel was created.
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,351
and you dont see how that goes against 'israel's right to exist'? or at the very least how do you reconcile your love for peace and understanding with the way israel was created.
Israel Palestine and every other nation dont have the right to exist with this kind of logic... People however do!
Since people chose countries the very least they can do is get along

We have two sets of people on one land
1 option is wild west one stays the other dies
2 option is get along sharing the land in a way that those 2 will live and if needed some sites should be open to all

For now the option that is active is the 1st one but I hope that in the future the 2nd arrives
I`m not optimistic though as people are stubborn with their sometime stupid ideas
 

GordoDeCentral

Diez
Moderator
Apr 14, 2005
70,876
Israel Palestine and every other nation dont have the right to exist with this kind of logic... People however do!
Since people chose countries the very least they can do is get along

We have two sets of people on one land
1 option is wild west one stays the other dies
2 option is get along sharing the land in a way that those 2 will live and if needed some sites should be open to all

For now the option that is active is the 1st one but I hope that in the future the 2nd arrives
I`m not optimistic though as people are stubborn with their sometime stupid ideas

:tup:
 

Linebreak

Senior Member
Sep 18, 2009
16,022
Arsenal fans join pro-Palestine protest in west London as Middle East conflict intensifies

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/lond...middle-east-conflict-intensifies-9622032.html

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As a Historian I'm really excited to witness a major change in perspective from across the world in such a short time span. It's incredible!
You're a historian?

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Israel Palestine and every other nation dont have the right to exist with this kind of logic... People however do!
Since people chose countries the very least they can do is get along

We have two sets of people on one land
1 option is wild west one stays the other dies
2 option is get along sharing the land in a way that those 2 will live and if needed some sites should be open to all

For now the option that is active is the 1st one but I hope that in the future the 2nd arrives
I`m not optimistic though as people are stubborn with their sometime stupid ideas
90% of Israeli's migrated from different parts of Europe and directly uprooted Palestinian homes and villages to be there, and extremely violently at that.

Now that they're there, even with all of the death and destruction them being there has brought to Palestine and the region, there's no point in saying they should all go back and die. A peaceful solution needs to be found.

The issue is, they are the ones not interested in peace. Evidence to this is the killings all started after the PLO and Hamas made a cooperation agreement, something that would force Israel to the negotiations table. Something that Israel is certainly not interested in as they are a non-compromising bunch of crazed individuals.
 

king Ale

Senior Member
Oct 28, 2004
21,689
In a campaign to improve its image abroad, the Israeli government plans to provide scholarships to hundreds of students at its seven universities in exchange for their making pro-Israel Facebook posts and tweets to foreign audiences.

The students making the posts will not reveal online that they are funded by the Israeli government, according to correspondence about the plan revealed in the Haaretz newspaper.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office, which will oversee the programme, confirmed its launch and wrote that its aim was to “strengthen Israeli public diplomacy and make it fit the changes in the means of information consumption”.

The government’s hand is to be invisible to the foreign audiences. Daniel Seaman, the official who has been planning the effort, wrote in a letter on 5 August to a body authorising government projects that “the idea requires not making the role of the state stand out and therefore it is necessary to adhere to great involvement of the students themselves, without political linkage or affiliation”.


According to the plan, students are to be organised into units at each university, with a chief co-ordinator who receives a full scholarship, three desk co-ordinators for language, graphics and research who receive lesser scholarships and students termed “activists” who will receive a “minimal scholarship”.

Mr Netanyahu’s aides said the main topics the units would address related to political and security issues, combating calls to boycott Israel and combating efforts to question Israel’s legitimacy. The officials said the students would stress Israeli democratic values, freedom of religion and pluralism.

But Alon Liel, the doveish former director-general of the Israeli foreign ministry, criticised the plan as “quite disgusting”. “University students should be educated to think freely. When you buy the mind of a student, he becomes a puppet of the Israeli government grant,” he said. “You can give a grant to do social work or teach but not to do propaganda on controversial issues for the government.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...they-tweet-proisraeli-propaganda-8760142.html

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Israel is indeed losing this war. Not that facebook and twitter would put an end to the suffering of people, but there's nothing left of the victimized terrorized justifiable image of Israeli government.
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,351
In a campaign to improve its image abroad, the Israeli government plans to provide scholarships to hundreds of students at its seven universities in exchange for their making pro-Israel Facebook posts and tweets to foreign audiences.

The students making the posts will not reveal online that they are funded by the Israeli government, according to correspondence about the plan revealed in the Haaretz newspaper.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s office, which will oversee the programme, confirmed its launch and wrote that its aim was to “strengthen Israeli public diplomacy and make it fit the changes in the means of information consumption”.

The government’s hand is to be invisible to the foreign audiences. Daniel Seaman, the official who has been planning the effort, wrote in a letter on 5 August to a body authorising government projects that “the idea requires not making the role of the state stand out and therefore it is necessary to adhere to great involvement of the students themselves, without political linkage or affiliation”.


According to the plan, students are to be organised into units at each university, with a chief co-ordinator who receives a full scholarship, three desk co-ordinators for language, graphics and research who receive lesser scholarships and students termed “activists” who will receive a “minimal scholarship”.

Mr Netanyahu’s aides said the main topics the units would address related to political and security issues, combating calls to boycott Israel and combating efforts to question Israel’s legitimacy. The officials said the students would stress Israeli democratic values, freedom of religion and pluralism.

But Alon Liel, the doveish former director-general of the Israeli foreign ministry, criticised the plan as “quite disgusting”. “University students should be educated to think freely. When you buy the mind of a student, he becomes a puppet of the Israeli government grant,” he said. “You can give a grant to do social work or teach but not to do propaganda on controversial issues for the government.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...they-tweet-proisraeli-propaganda-8760142.html

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Israel is indeed losing this war. Not that facebook and twitter would put an end to the suffering of people, but there's nothing left of the victimized terrorized justifiable image of Israeli government.
Sounds like someone is trying to make news
 

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