Israeli-Palestinian conflict (76 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

  • Yes

  • No


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Fred

Senior Member
Oct 2, 2003
41,113
I wonder if reading A and understanding B is only your policy or its your country`s as well..

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Should I post videos who show the opposite or you understand that in every situation you can see individuals who act differently (I didnt even watch it but its not hard to understand where you are taking it...)

IDF is the most moral army in the world but like anything in the world there are people who are different.

Does all your country`s people straight are they all gay are they all white are they all black are all good men are all murderers do you see where I`m getting at...?

I personally dont consider myself as a jew nor christian nor a muslim. I do believe in equality to everyone and I do think Palestine deserve a country! They dont deserve to be a country instead of Israel but they are deserve to be a country and to live peacefully with Israel.
I really hope no one but I mean no one EXCEPT terrorists to get hurt! Organizations like Hamas Jihad Al Quaida and Hizeballah should just cease to exist as their main agenda is just bombing who they believe to be wrong and the ones who have different beliefs.
I`m not saying other people dont have those kind of minuses but those organizations you can generalize as a group!
You know this is exactly what I and many people think of the Israeli government.

You guys were building settlements and bombing civilians way before Hamas even existed, so you should really stop using Hamas as your excuse.

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Yup, but try explaining that to Turk.
I would be surprised if Turk disagreed with my post. What makes you think he believes otherwise?
 

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Hængebøffer

Senior Member
Jun 4, 2009
25,185
You know this is exactly what I and many people think of the Israeli government.

You guys were building settlements and bombing civilians way before Hamas even existed, so you should really stop using Hamas as your excuse.

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I would be surprised if Turk disagreed with my post. What makes you think he believes otherwise?
Cause, from what I read, he's describing Muslims like Jews describes themselves.
 

Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
19,351
You know this is exactly what I and many people think of the Israeli government.

You guys were building settlements and bombing civilians way before Hamas even existed, so you should really stop using Hamas as your excuse.
1. I never said Israel`s government is perfect - I said this war and many many casualties are the result of the Hamas way
2. If 2 parties are to make peace both sides need the will to do so. I`m not saying Israel`s government have shown an unbelievable enthusiasm to do so but Palestinians words of "We dont recognize Israel as a country" isnt exactly helping the situation... the you dont deserve to be on the land you are right now because I called dibs first is quite ridiculous
Both sides deserve to live and exist!
I have criticism for both sides although my criticism for Israel is different than yours and much more accurate

PS I just know that some smart ass will now take one sentence from this post and make it sound like I want everyone killed or something like that...
 

Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
41,113
Cause, from what I read, he's describing Muslims like Jews describes themselves.
I'm 100% certain he wouldn't describe muslims as being a race or having one origin, believe me on that :D, because that belief will go directly against everything the religion stands for, don't forget its the fastest growing religion in the world.

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1. I never said Israel`s government is perfect - I said this war and many many casualties are the result of the Hamas way
2. If 2 parties are to make peace both sides need the will to do so. I`m not saying Israel`s government have shown an unbelievable enthusiasm to do so but Palestinians words of "We dont recognize Israel as a country" isnt exactly helping the situation... the you dont deserve to be on the land you are right now because I called dibs first is quite ridiculous
Both sides deserve to live and exist!
I have criticism for both sides although my criticism for Israel is different than yours and much more accurate

PS I just know that some smart ass will now take one sentence from this post and make it sound like I want everyone killed or something like that...
The Israeli's don't consider Palestine as a country either, whats the difference?

I don't see you criticizing your government and army's actions other than saying they're not perfect(thats not criticism at all, nobody is perfect), other than that you seem to think the shelling of civilian targets in gaza indiscriminately with brute force is justifiable. I know you say that they're targeting Hamas, but thats silly, even you know that; hospitals, schools and civilian residence are all being destroyed.
 

Zé Tahir

JhoolayLaaaal!
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Dec 10, 2004
29,281
IDF is the most moral army in the world but like anything in the world there are people who are different.
:lol2: You must really believe your shit doesn't stink.

Look, I'm not anti-Judaism but I am anti-Zionism. Fact is that when you think you are the chosen people and have a God given right to live on a piece of land then it is no surprise that the action we see from the state of Israel is like one who believes no matter what he does God is in support of his/her actions. Philosophically speaking this means you act with impunity...no human government, organization, or movement can speak to you or tell you otherwise. This is a very dangerous mentality.
 

Linebreak

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Sep 18, 2009
16,022
Israel is a crazed killing machine.

They destroy homes with impunity and claim they are exercising the right to "Defend themselves"

The reality is they are destroying homes to clean up the area for new settlements. That is all Israel interested in, illegally occupying more areas of Palestine. Eventually they will occupy every inch of Palestinian land using the "self-defence" excuse, and in the meantime, Palestinians will be made to live like sub-humans, as they already are, but it will be to the worst level ever.

Even the 3 Israeli teenagers found dead were in reality living in an illegal compound. A Jewish Rabbi even said the Israeli parents of these 3 are to blame for agreeing to live in an illegally occupied settlement. But this incident, as always, served as a great excuse for Israel to take more land. They will eventually take the entire place.

Israel is so low that it openly pays university students to flood online social networks, news sites and forums, with the "self-defence" bs propaganda.

Like Jimmy Carter's book says, Israeli politics is only really slightly different to Apartheid.

As a former Palestinian leader once said "If my own Arab Muslim brother violently kicks me out of my house and land and takes them from me, I will surely fight him to get back what is rightfully mine"
 

Zé Tahir

JhoolayLaaaal!
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Dec 10, 2004
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I was just watching another video by them. Every video is pissing me off more and more. The arrogance in their faces, their voices, their body language...it's sick. It's like they feel superior to rest of the human race.
 

Linebreak

Senior Member
Sep 18, 2009
16,022
I was just watching another video by them. Every video is pissing me off more and more. The arrogance in their faces, their voices, their body language...it's sick. It's like they feel superior to rest of the human race.
Unfortunately, Zionism is a clear case of misapplication of religion mixed with fascist politics. Remember there are plenty of anti-Zionist Rabbi's around the world who go to the extent of saying Zionism is a clear insult to Judaism.

They literally believe they are God's chosen people to the extent that the rest of humanity are no better than animals and violently exterminating these heathens is thus fair game.
 

ZoSo

Senior Member
Jul 11, 2011
41,656
I was just watching another video by them. Every video is pissing me off more and more. The arrogance in their faces, their voices, their body language...it's sick. It's like they feel superior to rest of the human race.
It's like you want to give them all a big punch in the face for what they do but you can't.
 
Jul 1, 2010
26,352
Unfortunately, Zionism is a clear case of misapplication of religion mixed with fascist politics. Remember there are plenty of anti-Zionist Rabbi's around the world who go to the extent of saying Zionism is a clear insult to Judaism.

They literally believe they are God's chosen people to the extent that the rest of humanity are no better than animals and violently exterminating these heathens is thus fair game.
And their PR people label anyone who criticize their politics antisemitic :lol:

First of all, Palestinians are Semitic people as well.

Secondly, it's rich coming from them since they're the actual racists.
 

Fr3sh

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Jul 12, 2011
37,264
IFTAR AT THE WHITE HOUSE
It was supposed to be an evening where the American President showed respect to a religious community, to the millions of American Muslims who have been fasting during the sacred month of Ramadan.
It was supposed to be a political expression of respect. It ended up being a political instrumentalisation of (voluntarily) trapped Muslim leaders listening to President Obama justify the massacre of hundreds of Palestinians, declaring Israel has the right to defend itself. One wonders what is the relationship between the Iftar celebration and Israel ? What is the US administration's implicit-explicit intention in putting the Muslim leaders in such an embarrassing situation? To test their loyalty or rather their capacity to compromise or betray? They obviously remained silent.
The Israeli ambassador, Mr. Ron Dermer, also invited (why?), was actually the first to speak. One must remember what he said about Palestinians, Arabs and Muslims : Palestinians have "a cultural tendency towards belligerency" that is "deeply embedded in the culture of the Arab world and its foremost religion". This is the man who was invited to celebrate Iftar with the Muslims meanwhile his Government is destroying Gaza. From the White House he tweeted, triumphantly : "@WhiteHouse for Iftar dinner. Appreciate strong statement there by President Obama about Israel's right to defend itself."
Obviously Muslim leaders didn't tweet. It was enough of an honor for them to be invited to the White House and to have met the President. An honor, truly, dear Muslim leaders? Ordinary Muslims (and proponents of justice and dignity from other religions) in the US and around the world, as well as Palestinians, might think differently
Gutless pieces of shit.
 
Jul 2, 2006
19,450
army of hell

Israeli naval ship bombs Palestinian children on Gaza beach, killing four

Group of young children reportedly attacked by shellfire from Israeli navy ship in Gaza City harbour area close to hotel at which journalists staying, with four dead


By Robert Tait, Gaza City and Staff

3:42PM BST 16 Jul 2014

Four children were killed in Gaza City on Wednesday, medics said, in Israeli shelling witnessed by The Telegraph and other foreign journalists.

The four were among a group on the beach when the attack took place, emergency services spokesman Ashraf al-Qudra said, with some of the surviving injured children taking refuge at a nearby hotel where journalists were staying.

Journalists heard two loud explosions outside the Gaza City hotel, before children were pulled into the restaurant area for treatment.

A journalist who saw the incident said some of the children who survived were running away when another shell seemed to be aimed at them.









 

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