Israeli-Palestinian conflict (67 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

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Fred

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Oct 2, 2003
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whatever man...your boys havent stopped firing rockets, even after the so called cease fire agreement

always one side of the story in this thread....



I like ya Fred, but the bolded part just makes me laugh.....

Israel has as much right to the land as anyone else....I was there.... the Jews, including my savior Jesus Christ, lived on that land, and it is a holy land for 3 different religions. No goverment arbitrarily put them there because it seemed like a nice place to put them, THEY HAVE HISTORY THERE !!!!

I wanna see someone try to remove the Israelis, it would be mission impossible...and there would be nothing left of Iran if they try
I know they have history there, but that is ancient history, their far away ancestors left that land centuries ago, they can't just come back whenever they want, force people out of their homes and forcefully create their own country there. They will always be seen as occupiers, which they are, and for that reason, there will never be peace. I agree that there are obvious military differences, but despite that, armed Palestinian resistance will go on and like i said, Israeli's will never live in peace. You call Hamas terrorists, but i'm sure you know that Israel has killed at least 5 times the amount of innocent civilians, right?
 

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ReBeL

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Jan 14, 2005
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    Another guy who was playing football yesterday night at North Gaza has died since few hours.
     

    IrishZebra

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    Jun 18, 2006
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    I know they have history there, but that is ancient history, their far away ancestors left that land centuries ago, they can't just come back whenever they want, force people out of their homes and forcefully create their own country there. They will always be seen as occupiers, which they are, and for that reason, there will never be peace. I agree that there are obvious military differences, but despite that, armed Palestinian resistance will go on and like i said, Israeli's will never live in peace. You call Hamas terrorists, but i'm sure you know that Israel has killed at least 5 times the amount of innocent civilians, right?
    IDF can't be terrorists as they belong to a state, nor can Mossad. They commit war crimes and crimes against humanity, but not terrorism :p

    Of course Terrorism in reality is just a tactic, not a defining characteristic.
     
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    ReBeL

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    Another tunnel worker has been found dead under the rubble of the tunnel that was targeted yesterday. Damn it!
     

    Fred

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    Oct 2, 2003
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    IDF can't be terrorists as they belong to a state, nor can Mossad. They commit war crimes and crimes against humanity, but not terrorism :p

    Of course Terrorism in reality is just a tactic, not a defining characteristic.
    Hamas was the Palestinians elected government as well, so if we were to go by that logic, one can't call Hamas terrorists either.
     
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    ReBeL

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    So, the UN report regarding the Zionist attack on the Turkish flotilla found that the Zionist siege for Gaza is totally legal. Why am I not surprised?

    The UN is the most terrorist organization ever.
     
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    ReBeL

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    Here’s a video of some scenes inside the Royal Albert Hall last night during the IPO’s concert, which was interrupted several times throughout by human rights activists and forcing the BBC to cancel their broadcast

     
    Jul 2, 2006
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    Turkish warships will escort aid vessels to Gaza

    Turkey said on Thursday it would escort aid ships to Gaza and would not allow a repetition of last year's Israeli raid that killed nine Turks, setting the stage for a potential naval confrontation with its former ally.


    Raising the stakes in Turkey's row with Israel over its refusal to apologise for the killings, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan told Al Jazeera television that Turkey had taken steps to stop Israel from unilaterally exploiting natural resources in the Mediterranean.

    "Turkish warships, in the first place, are authorised to protect our ships that carry humanitarian aid to Gaza," Erdoğan said in the interview, broadcast by Al Jazeera with an Arabic translation.

    "From now on, we will not let these ships to be attacked by Israel, as what happened with the Freedom Flotilla," Erdoğan said.

    Referring to Erdoğan's comments, Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor said: "This is a statement well-worth not commenting on."

    Relations between Turkey and Israel, two close US allies in the region, have soured since Israeli forces boarded the Gaza-bound Mavi Marmara aid ship in May 2010.

    Ankara downgraded ties and vowed to boost naval patrols in the eastern Mediterranean in the escalating row. Israel says it acted legally against ships that tried to breach its blockade on the Palestinian enclave which is ruled by the Hamas group.

    Israel has said it will enforce the blockade, which it says is needed to prevent arms smuggling to Hamas.

    Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak said earlier on Thursday that Israel and Turkey will eventually mend fences rather than become foes, describing their unprecedented dispute over Gaza as "spilled milk".

    Noting that an inquiry commissioned by United Nations Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon had vindicated the blockade, Barak predicted that wider Middle East upheaval would help bring Israel back together with its Muslim ex-ally.

    "Ultimately this wave will pass. We recognise reality. They recognise reality," Barak told Israel Radio. "We are the two countries that are most important to the West in the region ... I am certain that we can overcome these (disagreements)."

    But Erdoğan appeared to raise the heat, saying NATO member Turkey has taken steps to patrol the Mediterranean, and vowed to stop the Jewish state from exploiting natural resources in the area.

    "You know that Israel has begun to declare that it has the right to act in exclusive economic areas in the Mediterranean," Erdoğan said, apparently in reference to Israeli plans to exploit offshore gas reserves found in areas that are also claimed by Lebanon.

    "You will see that it will not be the owner of this right, because Turkey, as a guarantor of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (KKTC), has taken steps in the area, and it will be decisive and holding fast to the right to monitor international waters in the east Mediterranean," he said.

    Turkey says oil deals granted by the Greek Cypriot administration, which represents the island in the European Union, are illegal as the borders of the Cypriot island remain undetermined while Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots pursue reunification talks.

    Turkey's plan to flex its naval muscles may fuel Western unease about Turkey's reliability as a NATO partner and its penchant for actions designed to court popularity in the Muslim world.

    Asked whether Israel might yet say sorry for the seizure of the Turkish vessel, Barak said: "Look, it's spilled milk. It's not important right now."

    In addition to an apology, NATO-member Turkey has demanded that Israel end the Gaza blockade. Israel says the closure is needed to keep arms from reaching Palestinian guerrillas by sea.

    "A normalisation or improvement in Turkey-Israel relationships shouldn't be expected unless they apologise, pay a compensation and lift an embargo on Gaza," Erdoğan said on Thursday.
     

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