Israeli-Palestinian conflict (53 Viewers)

Is Hamas a Terrorist Organization?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should there be a Jewish nation SOMEWHERE in the world?

  • Yes

  • No

  • Should Israel be a country located in the region it is right now?

  • Yes

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Italia Todd

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Dec 15, 2009
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ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
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    Italia Todd,

    You said you were in Jordan. Would you care to tell us the reason of being there? Are you jewish?

    I just need to know the answers for these two questions to evaluate the feasibility of discussing you.

    Actually, it's a great place. I've visited several times, plan to go again, and wouldn't mind living there really. Particularly up in the Galilee it is a beautiful, and incredible place.
    Where have you been exactly in Galilee??
     

    Italia Todd

    Junior Member
    Dec 15, 2009
    73
    Italia Todd,

    You said you were in Jordan. Would you care to tell us the reason of being there?
    Graduate studies. I spent time working in archaeological digs and doing historical research, as well as site seeing also. I spent time working in Petra the majority of my time in Jordan in the south at Petra, but also spent time in other areas as well.

    Are you jewish?
    No. I am second generation Italian-American. My family was agnostic, and I spent 20+ years of my life as an atheist. I am not a right wing nut job, I am both a socialist and a pacifist. I am a Christian in belief, and a former seminary student whose graduate studies are currently on hold due to pressures of life and being a husband and father of three.

    I just need to know the answers for these two questions to evaluate the feasibility of discussing you.
    I do not think that Israel is perfect, nor that they handle things properly all of the time. They are not blameless, they do at times deserve criticism to varrying degrees. However, I do believe that they are willing to do almost anything to work for peace. As I have said, Egypt sought peace and there is now peace between them. Jordan sought peace and there is now peace between them.

    Israel agreed to Clinton's (much too generous) terms, the Palestinians rejected it. The Israeli's forcibly removed their settlers from Gaza and turned it over to the Palestinians. They have shown a willingness to accept freedom. Palestine has not yet shown themselves willing to cooperate in these matters in my opinion.

    Where have you been exactly in Galilee??
    All over. The greatest ammount of my time in the Middle East was spent between Galilee and in the south in Jerusalem itself. Usually my "base of operations" for Galilee is in Tiberias, but I have spent time in Nazareth, digging at Beit She-an, up into the Golan Heights and the valleys bellow, all over.
     

    Italia Todd

    Junior Member
    Dec 15, 2009
    73
    So you were in the seminary?

    It all makes sense now, I can't wait until your kind dies off.
    And yet you would accuse me of being the hate filled one. :lol:

    I love all people, and judge no one. You wish the death of "my kind". Yes, the new tollerance. Tollerating all things except those who disagree with them.

    Also, it's not THE seminary, it is seminary. There are thousands of schools, not just one. If you want a particular school I was/am a student at Dallas Theological Seminary.
     

    X Æ A-12

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    Sep 4, 2006
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    This debate reminds me of something Ebi Smolarek once said.
    Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't he a polish footballer?

    I have not participated but I have been reading this debate for a while. IMO posting pictures of dying children and political cartoons is incredibly stupid in this debate. Both sides have blood on their hands, these photos mean nothing.
     

    Enron

    Tickle Me
    Moderator
    Oct 11, 2005
    75,665
    Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't he a polish footballer?

    I have not participated but I have been reading this debate for a while. IMO posting pictures of dying children and political cartoons is incredibly stupid in this debate. Both sides have blood on their hands, these photos mean nothing.
    You're right.
     

    Italia Todd

    Junior Member
    Dec 15, 2009
    73
    Would you put something logical for once?

    Why would anyone sacrifice his kids?
    I'll be more than happy to engage in logical, reasoned debate with anyone who shows themselves willing to have it. You yourself so far seem to possibly be open to such conversation and I would gladly engage you in it. When there are idiots who show themselves unwilling to look at both sides I will likewise give them the respect they deserve - none.

    The simple fact is absolutely, indisputably true that Hamas and Hezbollah (particularly the latter, but both) often not only purposefully station themselves in civillian areas to raise the number of civillian deaths in case of counter attack, but also stage and fake scenes for their press to gain PR points. They are masters of it actually.
     

    Italia Todd

    Junior Member
    Dec 15, 2009
    73
    Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't he a polish footballer?

    I have not participated but I have been reading this debate for a while. IMO posting pictures of dying children and political cartoons is incredibly stupid in this debate. Both sides have blood on their hands, these photos mean nothing.

    EXACTLY!
     

    IrishZebra

    Western Imperialist
    Jun 18, 2006
    23,327
    And yet you would accuse me of being the hate filled one. :lol:

    I love all people, and judge no one. You wish the death of "my kind". Yes, the new tollerance. Tollerating all things except those who disagree with them.

    Also, it's not THE seminary, it is seminary. There are thousands of schools, not just one. If you want a particular school I was/am a student at Dallas Theological Seminary.
    You'll have to excuse me, I haven't read up on my Fairytale Universities.
     

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