Same difference. If Mexico were firing rockets on the US the way Palestine was on Israel, I doubt that you would be sitting there saying so what. But Israel is supposed to grin and bear it and do nothing.
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Before those walls Israel was being subjected to countless suicide bombings. Since them there have been virtually none. Stop being terrorist bastards and the walls won't be needed.
As I said, Palestine will have peace when she decides that peace is more important than killing Israelis. The Egyptians learned it. The Jordanians learned it. The Palestinians seem to have a learning dissability in this area though.
Israel has always been willing to work towards peace. At the end of Clinton's reign, Israel agreed to virtually everything the Paelstinians were asking for (more than I would have given) and Arafat rejected it. Israel pulled out of Gaza, which became a hell zone, and began raining down rockets on Israel. Still Israel is willing to seek peace. When will the Palestinians be willing to join them at the table?
As I said, Palestine will have peace when she decides that peace is more important than killing Israelis. The Egyptians learned it. The Jordanians learned it. The Palestinians seem to have a learning dissability in this area though.
Israel has always been willing to work towards peace. At the end of Clinton's reign, Israel agreed to virtually everything the Paelstinians were asking for (more than I would have given) and Arafat rejected it. Israel pulled out of Gaza, which became a hell zone, and began raining down rockets on Israel. Still Israel is willing to seek peace. When will the Palestinians be willing to join them at the table?
And by the way, in case you missed it, there are Palestinians who serve in the Knesset, there are areas of Israel with large Palestinian populations and leadership. It's not Israel's fault that some of these people listened to their arab "brothers" and got the heck out in 47, only to wind up being screwed over by those same arab "brothers" ever since. Like Jordan who occupied the West Bank and Jerusalem for so many years, as well as encamping, and even massacering many of the Palestinians. That was not Zionists, my friend.
The whole issue and stumbling point is over the right of return, and they will never win that. If they just give that up, and stop the killing and the rockets and the hate, they could have a free and independent Palestinian state tommorow.
The whole issue and stumbling point is over the right of return, and they will never win that. If they just give that up, and stop the killing and the rockets and the hate, they could have a free and independent Palestinian state tommorow.
Quite simply the issue is one of the right of peoples to self-determination and soveirgnty.
You see those, those are Univeral Human Rights my man and I'll be damned if some Zionist tool/Muslim Tool/Christian Tool tells me anything different because you,your people or your religion disregard that which is above your petty little fear of morality to jutify your calous and inhumane treated of your fellow man. You can protect your liberties in this world only by protecting the other man's freedom. You can be free only if I am free. Darrow said that, one of your countrymen I think.
The jews are not a standalone race, they never have been and they never will be, they don't deserve a homeland, neither do Muslims Christians,Hindus,Scientologists etc. etc.
Keeping religion out of the affairs of state and give the people of palestine back what was taken from them, their home. I don't feel guilty for the Holocaust so I won't let your bullshit slide.
- All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights
- Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.
- No one shall be subjected to arbitrary arrest, detention or exile.
- Everyone has the right to freedom of movement and residence within the borders of each state
- Everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country.
- Everyone has the right to a nationality.
You see those, those are Univeral Human Rights my man and I'll be damned if some Zionist tool/Muslim Tool/Christian Tool tells me anything different because you,your people or your religion disregard that which is above your petty little fear of morality to jutify your calous and inhumane treated of your fellow man. You can protect your liberties in this world only by protecting the other man's freedom. You can be free only if I am free. Darrow said that, one of your countrymen I think.
The jews are not a standalone race, they never have been and they never will be, they don't deserve a homeland, neither do Muslims Christians,Hindus,Scientologists etc. etc.
Keeping religion out of the affairs of state and give the people of palestine back what was taken from them, their home. I don't feel guilty for the Holocaust so I won't let your bullshit slide.
No, the Blockade was never lifted in the first place, even when the supposed cease fire was implemented. Israel not only cut off Gaza from supplies and electricity, but they also sent in troops to kill six Hamas officers on the 4th.
Either way you spin it, Israel are the culprits here in this case.
And I'm glad another Israel supporter supports Geneva Convention and human rights violations. They are such morally sound folks, the racists.
Either way you spin it, Israel are the culprits here in this case.
And I'm glad another Israel supporter supports Geneva Convention and human rights violations. They are such morally sound folks, the racists.
Unfortunately the UN disagrees with you, as it gave them the land (a land which NEVER belonged to anyone other than foreign nations, there was never a Palestinian state at any point in history EVER). Israel was granted the right of statehood, and that right will never be taken back. Whether you think it was right or wrong is irrelevant, because it is simple, historical fact. Israel exists.
NOW. Since Israel exists, there are some different ways that we can go about this. Either the Palestinians can decide that they want a national state more than they want dead Israelis, and then they will quickly achieve that national, independent state. Or they can continue being hate-filled, ignorant terrorists attacking Israeli civillians, and they can keep being bombed back into the dark ages. Chose one or the other, there is no third option.
NOW. Since Israel exists, there are some different ways that we can go about this. Either the Palestinians can decide that they want a national state more than they want dead Israelis, and then they will quickly achieve that national, independent state. Or they can continue being hate-filled, ignorant terrorists attacking Israeli civillians, and they can keep being bombed back into the dark ages. Chose one or the other, there is no third option.
De facto in exists, in has no De Jure case for existence you douche, I'm studying International Law here and specifically said they Don't deserve to be a state not that they weren't one.
I'll think you'll find that every former colony was never a 'state' before colonisation A Mandate of Palestine existed as did they for the Congo South Africa etc. by you logic none of these are states.
I like how you disregarded the HUMAN RIGHTS you Zionists are worse that the muslim extremists
I'll think you'll find that every former colony was never a 'state' before colonisation A Mandate of Palestine existed as did they for the Congo South Africa etc. by you logic none of these are states.
I like how you disregarded the HUMAN RIGHTS you Zionists are worse that the muslim extremists
I'll give Israel some credit. They do have good snipers.
http://interkulti.eu/Junglelaw/images/stories/img_215f2545fd_gaza_children_sniper_bullets2.jpg
Now if those were your children, you wouldn't be speaking such Fox News tripe.
http://interkulti.eu/Junglelaw/images/stories/img_215f2545fd_gaza_children_sniper_bullets2.jpg
Now if those were your children, you wouldn't be speaking such Fox News tripe.
BOTH. We need peace so that BOTH people can live is safety and sovereignty. Israel is willing to give Palestine a state and freedom and sovereignty. Palestine is NOT willing to recognize that Israel has been given nationhood, and it will not be reversed. They have not decided that they would rather have freedom than dead sons and daughters.
Golda Meir had a great quote once. She said "I can forgive the Palestinians for killing our children. I can not forgive them for making us kill theirs."
Golda Meir had a great quote once. She said "I can forgive the Palestinians for killing our children. I can not forgive them for making us kill theirs."