You two bigots can talk for yourself, a lot of people do give a shit. I hope your parents die from an Israeli rocket, then we'll see how you'd like it if i told you two insensitive bigots that no one really cares.
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Israeli-Palestinian conflict (68 Viewers)
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I have no solution, Andy.
I've been really thinking about this in the last month and i feel so helpless. On one side, i find myself wishing death to those who kill the children and the women in Gaza, while on the other side i realized that the same will happen to the Israeli children if the Palestinians are as strong as Israel and Israel is as weak as Palestine.
The hatred there is too strong, whoever has the power will commit murders over innocent civilians.
I was thinking what will happen if they're equally strong. Will they be afraid of eachother and won't start a new war? You know, something like USA vs USSR. But there is the land problem and even if both parties are equally strong, one party will start a war for the lost land, while the other side will fight back to protect that land.
I have no idea what should be done. Something obviously has to be done but i'm not smart enough to think of a solution.
I've been really thinking about this in the last month and i feel so helpless. On one side, i find myself wishing death to those who kill the children and the women in Gaza, while on the other side i realized that the same will happen to the Israeli children if the Palestinians are as strong as Israel and Israel is as weak as Palestine.
The hatred there is too strong, whoever has the power will commit murders over innocent civilians.
I was thinking what will happen if they're equally strong. Will they be afraid of eachother and won't start a new war? You know, something like USA vs USSR. But there is the land problem and even if both parties are equally strong, one party will start a war for the lost land, while the other side will fight back to protect that land.
I have no idea what should be done. Something obviously has to be done but i'm not smart enough to think of a solution.
But is it certain the Palestinians would react in the same way?
Afterall, they only wanted food and goods for their people, but Israel only denied that.
Perhaps they would be just like the IDF if they had all the money, weapons and training, but that isn't the point now. We MUST stop funding Israel first if we want to have something in the same region of peace.
Afterall, they only wanted food and goods for their people, but Israel only denied that.
Perhaps they would be just like the IDF if they had all the money, weapons and training, but that isn't the point now. We MUST stop funding Israel first if we want to have something in the same region of peace.
One of the better things that happened to entrenched radicalism and terrorism in the past 100 years was Northern Ireland. Of course, the circumstances were very different in a lot of ways. But things got a lot better once forces outside the area got the #$^% out of the way and attempted to leave it to the locals to work it out.
Yes, there's the history of how this cluster^%#$ was globally created. But there's an element here that makes me question that conventional wisdom of making it "The World's Problem"(tm), with involvement from everyone from U.S. politicians and money to other Arab nations, etc., -- has that been a greater recipe for a cluster#&^% there than anything else?? 60 years of failure can't be solved with "more of the same".
Isolationism is often a recipe for failure, of course. But it's never good when a region continually expects the rest of the world to help mediate their internal issues either, as it perpetuates victimhood thinking and diminishes expectations for people to be able to resolve their own problems.
Yes, there's the history of how this cluster^%#$ was globally created. But there's an element here that makes me question that conventional wisdom of making it "The World's Problem"(tm), with involvement from everyone from U.S. politicians and money to other Arab nations, etc., -- has that been a greater recipe for a cluster#&^% there than anything else?? 60 years of failure can't be solved with "more of the same".
Isolationism is often a recipe for failure, of course. But it's never good when a region continually expects the rest of the world to help mediate their internal issues either, as it perpetuates victimhood thinking and diminishes expectations for people to be able to resolve their own problems.
Seriously? 
Seriously, Andy?
Come on, you know it's not like that.
Seriously, Andy?
Come on, you know it's not like that.
The truce was there in place, read Rebels post again. Hamas did not break the ceasefire, Israel did. What could happen if the roles were reversed is NOT a justification for what Israel is doing.
We know you love Israel and you think you're taking the "middle ground", but lets see you take those smiley faces to Gaza City, if you want to something to smile about.
Seriously, I think you're smarter than this, but honestly you're hate for Islam blinds you. I will not reveal what you said to me via private discussions, but come on, people can see what you're all about Andries.
I'm sorry, but I don't like it when my country or an organisation that represents a great deal of my country gets dragged into a conflict where it does not belong. I especially think that insults towards the EU are indecent if one doesn't even know what the EU is. That the same person should have an educating role on this forum is just sad.
I know the truce was there.
I know Israel broke the ceasefire.
Andy, please, for the last fucking time, I do not defend Israel. I have condemned them from day one. And for me this conflict isn't even about religion. It's about hate. From both sides.
What I'm on about is that the situation is much more complex than some of us like to believe. Alen's remark was a good one and you answered it with a very naive question.
I know Israel broke the ceasefire.
Andy, please, for the last fucking time, I do not defend Israel. I have condemned them from day one. And for me this conflict isn't even about religion. It's about hate. From both sides.
What I'm on about is that the situation is much more complex than some of us like to believe. Alen's remark was a good one and you answered it with a very naive question.