Israeli-Palestinian conflict (62 Viewers)

[BlanquiNegro]

The fire has just erupted again in UNRWA warehouse in Tal Al-Hawa.

G. Bush: I'm proud of my achievements.

Apart from destroying the USA ecnomy and reputaion in every single means

He should be

 

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[Alen]

I would be greedy to ask for any flag you can find.

Wait a minute, you're asking me for a real flag or a picture of a flag?
If it's just a picture then these two are the flags you're looking for. The first one is from the year they concured Constantinopole till 1844 while the second one is the one from 1844-1923

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Flag_of_the_Ottoman_Empire_(1453-1844).svg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ottoman_flag.svg

 

[Snoop]

 

[Bjerknes]

The fire has just erupted again in UNRWA warehouse in Tal Al-Hawa.

G. Bush: I'm proud of my achievements.

Apart from destroying the USA ecnomy and reputaion in every single means

He should be

Yeah, thanks a lot for destroying our fucking country, Bush.

 

[ReBeL]

Wait a minute, you're asking me for a real flag or a picture of a flag?
If it's just a picture then these two are the flags you're looking for. The first one is from the year they concured Constantinopole till 1844 while the second one is the one from 1844-1923

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Flag_of_the_Ottoman_Empire_(1453-1844).svg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ottoman_flag.svg

No, a picture is enough. Thanks so much.

Sorry, Snoop

 

[Snoop]

That ottoman flag made me itch

 

[Snoop]

are you going to use that as an avatar or something?

 

[GordoDeCentral]

or something

 

[ReBeL]

are you going to use that as an avatar or something?

No. But I know many Arab people who are so longing to having the Ottoman empire back to remove the fake Arab regimes and come back to rule us again. They want any Ottoman symbol to spread their idea.

There is a huge passion here in Jordan for anything Turk these days because of the last political views for Turk politicians regarding Gaza.

 

[Eddy]

No, a picture is enough. Thanks so much.

Sorry, Snoop

Why do you want an Ottoman flag ? Not long ago, we were in the Palestinians' positions, just a bit worse.

 

[ReBeL]

Why do you want an Ottoman flag ? Not long ago, we were in the Palestinians' positions, just a bit worse.

See my post above, Eddy. It's not for me.

 

[Snoop]

No. But I know many Arab people who are so longing to having the Ottoman empire back to remove the fake Arab regimes and come back to rule us again. They want any Ottoman symbol to spread their idea.

There is a huge passion here in Jordan for anything Turk these days because of the last political views for Turk politicians regarding Gaza.

The same Arabs who suffered all those years from the ottomans? I doubt even Turks want to have anything of that..

 

[ReBeL]

The same Arabs who suffered all those years from the ottomans? I doubt even Turks want to have anything of that..

Well, to be honest, according to what I know of history, Arabs didn't suffer under the Ottoman empire from 1516 to around 1850. Then the problems started to appear. I don't think it is practical but it is just a way to tease the Arab regimes here to spread such symbols on cars and houses.

 

[Snoop]

Still, I wouldn't carry symbols like that if I were you, maybe you didn't suffer from them as much as Armenians, Syrians, Lebanese, Greeks Assyrians and others, but you should understand and be against an empire like that for their ugly crimes. They were not any better than Israel, but even uglier. And are no different than the "empire" we have today.

Why not wishing an end to these empires instead? wouldn't that be a better wish? or are you after revenge, and you want these wars to long forever?

 

[ReBeL]

Still, I wouldn't carry symbols like that if I were you, maybe you didn't suffer from them as much as Armenians, Syrians, Lebanese, Greeks Assyrians and others, but you should understand and be against an empire like that for their ugly crimes. They were not any better than Israel, but even uglier. And are no different than the "empire" we have today.

Why not wishing an end to these empires instead? wouldn't that be a better wish? or are you after revenge, and you want these wars to long forever?

Ok, let's drop this thing. Could you please, Snoop, tell me why you voted that Hamas is terrorist organization in the poll?

 

[Snoop]

Isn't it? Just like Asala was, Killing innocents.

Asala is the Armenian freaks who killed Turkish diplomats all over the world 30 years back for a revenge of the Armenian genocide. yes they have the right to get mad and they want justice, but that's not the way..


Hamas fire rockets randomly against Israeli civilians. Israeli government are the greater terrorists in the area. This is not like what you think, that I am taking sides here, no I find both of the sides guilty and responsible for their acts, the innocents are the Israeli and the Palestinians. This is how I see things, none of those two sides want peace (Hamas or Israeli government), all they do is to kill as much as possible, that's what I call terrorist act.

 

[ReBeL]

Isn't it? Just like Asala was, Killing innocents.

Asala is the Armenian freaks who killed Turkish diplomats all over the world 30 years back for a revenge of the Armenian genocide. yes they have the right to get mad and they want justice, but that's not the way..


Hamas fire rockets randomly against Israeli civilians. Israeli government are the greater terrorists in the area. This is not like what you think, that I am taking sides here, no I find both of the sides guilty and responsible for their acts, the innocents are the Israeli and the Palestinians. This is how I see things, none of those two sides want peace (Hamas or Israeli government), all they do is to kill as much as possible, that's what I call terrorist act.

There is nothing called Israeli civilians. They are maybe civilians in their original countries, but they are occupiers on the Palestinian land.

 

[Alen]

The same Arabs who suffered all those years from the ottomans? I doubt even Turks want to have anything of that..

Especially the non-muslims would like to have the Ottoman empire back. The Bulgarians, Greeks, Armenians, Macedonians, Serbs, Montenegrins and the Croats are praying every day for that to happen.

 

[ReBeL]

Especially the non-muslims would like to have the Ottoman empire back. The Bulgarians, Greeks, Armenians, Macedonians, Serbs, Montenegrins and the Croats are praying every day for that to happen.

I didn't say that, but Arabs were better with Turks than the current regimes.

 

[Snoop]

There is nothing called Israeli civilians. They are maybe civilians in their original countries, but they are occupiers on the Palestinian land.

well a lot of nations lost lands and got over it and then lived in peace later. That mentality will not take you anywhere Rebel. Isn't the suffer enough all these years? The way you see is no different that the other side does. Why not divide the land to two and live in peace? or the fight should go on until the last drop of blood? you may think different, but I am not patriotic like you guys, some sacrifice from both sides could solve this, am I thinking wrong? After all we are all humans, none of us are any better than the other..