Israel War with Iran (115 Viewers)

[Siamak]

This is crazy! Fighter jets fly freely and unmolested in the sky of Karaj, targeting military and nuclear bases. Two hours ago I saw with my own eyes two fighter jets bombed and left. Iran's air defense systems are either destroyed (completely disabled) or too weak to respond in time, quickly neutralized by a skilled air force.
Now Iran is attacking with missiles and drones. It is going to fire the newest missiles because apparently the previous waves were 20/30 year old models. The new generation missiles will be fired in the coming weeks. They want to empty the old stockpiles to overwhelm and damage the Israeli defense systems.

 

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[Ventus]

Ground troops in Iran incoming. This will become a long drawn out war like Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

[Ronn]

It seems Israel has run out of useful targets. Today they hit the main gate of Evin prison in Tehran to “destroy regime symbols”. Prisoners should’ve felt really good about that.

 

[s4tch]

It seems Israel has run out of useful targets. Today they hit the main gate of Evin prison in Tehran to “destroy regime symbols”. Prisoners should’ve felt really good about that.

that's just sad. i bet iran still has nuclear facilities. if the aim of the operations is to stop/delay their nuke development...

we have no crystal ball so i just can hope that netanjahu will eventually face consequences before he dies, and trump will sit/stand next to him, whether it's a trial at the hague or a ceausescu style judgement day

 

[Orgut]

Yeah. Because your dear leader (yes, he is your leader) decided to rip the existing nuclear deal back in 2018. So of course Iran wouldn’t hold up their end of the bargain. This is what you wanted all along. Death and destruction is all you understand because that’s what your retarded holy book commands.

I thought you are talking about Iran for a second.
No matter how you look at it - attacking Iran was crucial for survival.
Iran never intended of honoring any agreement and its validated by documents and texts.

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The way I see it Iran getting a nuke is only a matter of time unless regime changes. What I’m worried now is that if that day arrives they decide to not keep it to themselves and share it with their proxies. Their security doctrine have always heavily involved those militia groups and the reason they are under this humiliating circumstances is those proxies are also severely weakened.

Nuke? No I dont think so. More missiles and bombing are more than probable.

A nuke will only happen should their nuclear facilities keep intact despite US missiles.

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This is crazy! Fighter jets fly freely and unmolested in the sky of Karaj, targeting military and nuclear bases. Two hours ago I saw with my own eyes two fighter jets bombed and left. Iran's air defense systems are either destroyed (completely disabled) or too weak to respond in time, quickly neutralized by a skilled air force.
Now Iran is attacking with missiles and drones. It is going to fire the newest missiles because apparently the previous waves were 20/30 year old models. The new generation missiles will be fired in the coming weeks. They want to empty the old stockpiles to overwhelm and damage the Israeli defense systems.

Thats exactly the news outside of Iran.
For the people Iran should really accept US terms - otherwise it will be even worse.

Everything I say is ofcourse politic wise.
I do hope you as a pure civillian be safe.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Who are the people calling for regime change in Iran?

@TheLaz @Orgut guess what, the US and friends did that before - resulting in the same regime that they now want gone.

Maybe the US deciding who gets to rule Iran isn't the best idea? If the Iranian people want regime change let them handle that.

 

[TheLaz]

Ground troops in Iran incoming. This will become a long drawn out war like Iraq and Afghanistan.

Not gonna happen. But this is what the poeple of Iran need to overturn the terroist regime. For now, all the people get is strategic bombing

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Who are the people calling for regime change in Iran?

@TheLaz @Orgut guess what, the US and friends did that before - resulting in the same regime that they now want gone.

Maybe the US deciding who gets to rule Iran isn't the best idea? If the Iranian people want regime change let them handle that.

The US doesn't care about the people of Iran. They are not bombing to free the people. They are bombing to weaken the regime and eliminate the threat of WMD.

 

[Fab Fragment]

I thought you are talking about Iran for a second.
No matter how you look at it - attacking Iran was crucial for survival.
Iran never intended of honoring any agreement and its validated by documents and texts.

- - - Updated - - -


Nuke? No I dont think so. More missiles and bombing are more than probable.

A nuke will only happen should their nuclear facilities keep intact despite US missiles.

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Thats exactly the news outside of Iran.
For the people Iran should really accept US terms - otherwise it will be even worse.

Everything I say is ofcourse politic wise.
I do hope you as a pure civillian be safe.

Netanyahu has been crying wolf since the 1990's.
BTW, how many countries has Iran attacked in the past 200 years or so?

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

The US doesn't care about the people of Iran. They are not bombing to free the people. They are bombing to weaken the regime and eliminate the threat of WMD.

You missed the point, and it's a pretty simple one.

 

[Ronn]

Nuke? No I dont think so. More missiles and bombing are more than probable.

A nuke will only happen should their nuclear facilities keep intact despite US missiles.

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Thats exactly the news outside of Iran.
For the people Iran should really accept US terms - otherwise it will be even worse.

Everything I say is ofcourse politic wise.

I do hope you as a pure civillian be safe.

The chart below shows the amount of weapons grade uranium that Iran could produce in NEXT MONTH. This is updated after IDF struck the access roads to Fordo site today. Note that even after Saturday night’s US strike, the capacity was still significant.
but roads can be repaired and sites can be built. The technology is old and Islamic regime seems to have got the hang of it. Iran is also very angry with IAEA publicly and I think they’ll try to limit their cooperation even further.
Now I think US and Israel know this very well, which means they either will try to prolong this campaign or go for the ground war and regime change. The former solution’s effectiveness is in doubt since Islamic regime doesn’t give a shit about their population, and the latter is very costly.
I think Trump is trying to provoke Iran to an all out attack On US interests to justify a ground operation. Then again, I can and hope to be wrong.

 

[kappa96]

Netanyahu has been crying wolf since the 1990's.
BTW, how many countries has Iran attacked in the past 200 years or so?

Iran I don't know , but Iran funded terrorist organizations I can easily name a few.

 

[Orgut]

This is crazy! Fighter jets fly freely and unmolested in the sky of Karaj, targeting military and nuclear bases. Two hours ago I saw with my own eyes two fighter jets bombed and left. Iran's air defense systems are either destroyed (completely disabled) or too weak to respond in time, quickly neutralized by a skilled air force.
Now Iran is attacking with missiles and drones. It is going to fire the newest missiles because apparently the previous waves were 20/30 year old models. The new generation missiles will be fired in the coming weeks. They want to empty the old stockpiles to overwhelm and damage the Israeli defense systems.

Thats exactly the news outside of Iran.
For the people Iran should really accept US terms - otherwise it will be even worse.

Everything I say is ofcourse politic wise.
I do hope you as a pure civillian be safe.

The chart below shows the amount of weapons grade uranium that Iran could produce in NEXT MONTH. This is updated after IDF struck the access roads to Fordo site today. Note that even after Saturday night’s US strike, the capacity was still significant.
but roads can be repaired and sites can be built. The technology is old and Islamic regime seems to have got the hang of it. Iran is also very angry with IAEA publicly and I think they’ll try to limit their cooperation even further.
Now I think US and Israel know this very well, which means they either will try to prolong this campaign or go for the ground war and regime change. The former solution’s effectiveness is in doubt since Islamic regime doesn’t give a shit about their population, and the latter is very costly.
I think Trump is trying to provoke Iran to an all out attack On US interests to justify a ground operation. Then again, I can and hope to be wrong.

The charts are probably wrong.
Claims of Iran on the brink of nuclear are also probably false but to wait for the last moment is wrong so I believe this hides behind Tramp actions.

Back to the nuclear thing - The amount and level of Iran's uranium enrichment is definitely damaged more but the threat is still there.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Iran I don't know , but Iran funded terrorist organizations I can easily name a few.

Iran funds terrorist organizations, okay true. Let's say they deserve to be forced into regime change.

So what about the US, Israel, Saudi Arabia and others, do you say the same for them?

 

[kappa96]

Iran funds terrorist organizations, okay true. Let's say they deserve to be forced into regime change.

So what about the US, Israel, Saudi Arabia and others, do you say the same for them?

Leaving the "whataboutism" aside ,clearly they deserve a regime change .
Funding terrorist organizations is despicable, regardless of who is doing it.

 

[X Æ A-12]

It seems Israel has run out of useful targets. Today they hit the main gate of Evin prison in Tehran to “destroy regime symbols”. Prisoners should’ve felt really good about that.

that sounds like a war crime

 

[Ronn]

Thats exactly the news outside of Iran.
For the people Iran should really accept US terms - otherwise it will be even worse.

Everything I say is ofcourse politic wise.
I do hope you as a pure civillian be safe.

The charts are probably wrong.
Claims of Iran on the brink of nuclear are also probably false but to wait for the last moment is wrong so I believe this hides behind Tramp actions.

Back to the nuclear thing - The amount and level of Iran's uranium enrichment is definitely damaged more but the threat is still there.

Yes everybody is wrong except you. Have a nice day.

 

[Orgut]

Netanyahu has been crying wolf since the 1990's.
BTW, how many countries has Iran attacked in the past 200 years or so?

What did Iran been crying for? USA and Israel gone and extinguished. They even said it to the press numerous times.

Iran is not the odd one out and dont have that this is my land arguement so obviously it should be lower (did not check).

But we can turn it around like someone mentioned. Israel is Israel. Iran pay terror organizations and its not even for debate.

In any case - This is not the issue here but the fact that Iran threatened and acted accordingly.
USA and Israel were both right to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities.
Due to them being threatened to such a degree of Israel gone and US badly damaged.

I believe there is a plot between Iran and Russia to weaken the US in a future war but this one is pure speculation with no evidence.

 

[Quetzalcoatl]

Leaving the "whataboutism" aside ,clearly they deserve a regime change .
Funding terrorist organizations is despicable, regardless of who is doing it.

You call it whataboutism, I call it consistency in principles.

You either believe in what you are saying or you are just parroting talking points to suit your biases.

Nobody who is being honest can justify what the US and Israel is doing from a rational and fair standpoint.

 

[Seven]

What did Iran been crying for? USA and Israel gone and extinguished. They even said it to the press numerous times.

Iran is not the odd one out and dont have that this is my land arguement so obviously it should be lower (did not check).

But we can turn it around like someone mentioned. Israel is Israel. Iran pay terror organizations and its not even for debate.

In any case - This is not the issue here but the fact that Iran threatened and acted accordingly.
USA and Israel were both right to bomb Iran's nuclear facilities.
Due to them being threatened to such a degree of Israel gone and US badly damaged.

I believe there is a plot between Iran and Russia to weaken the US in a future war but this one is pure speculation with no evidence.

Realistically, wouldn't we all be better off without Israel at this point?

I'm just asking you to entertain the idea. Let's say the world would still be as it is today, only there would be no Israel. Would this not be better for everyone?

 

[Orgut]

that sounds like a war crime

This one is indeed can be interpeted as such unless there is a justification (just because of regime symbol does not count as such in my books)