Israel-Hezbolla; Lebanon stuck in the middle: The new Middle East Crisis (39 Viewers)

[PhRoZeN]

IMO, it does. There's a strong connection between the two.

now let me ask you people :

Does Israel deserve anything at all in your opinion ? Anything ? Do Israelis have the right to live ? Does it have any territory which is ok to have ?

Deserve anything at all makes it look like you having nothing at all. Israelis do have a right to live, but as israelis or as what tehy were before the state was developed? mostly european immigrants and yes teh odd few that were reknowned to be palestinians. In terms of territory if israel were so eager to build one then by gaining majority of the land in terms of population and power was certainly not the way to go at it, if it was really that desperate than it could have taken its land which would have been proberly nothing more bigger than monaco. Theres one thing deserving and then theres other being greed, the israelis will never be satisfied with what they have and thats the bottom line to it, you provoke sympathy by bringing up world war e.t.c but thats over with, now you are doing exactly what hitler may have done to you and thats wiping out the arabs. Havent you learned anything what history has taught you?

 

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[mnementh]

Oh I didn't say it was wrong, just that it's a bit fishy...

Israel admits this in public... hizballah went too far.

 

[Geof]

now let me ask you people :

Does Israel deserve anything at all in your opinion ? Anything ? Do Israelis have the right to live ? Does it have any territory which is ok to have ?

of course they do. But so do the Lebanese, the Palestinians, the Belgians,...
But what I mean is that not all Jews are Israeli and not Israelis are Jews.

Israel's situation is probably the most difficult political situation in the world, and I don't have a clue about how to resolve it, so I'm not going to say that Israel should do this or not do that. I don't live there, I have no idea what it is to be Israeli, Palestinian or Lebanese these days, but all I see is that innocent people are dying on all sides. I know that sounds stupid, but's that's basically all one can say without talking crap.

 

[PhRoZeN]

and yet you brought an article about FOX news which it too didn't have anything to do with israel.... bbc, sky and any british channel is biased against israel. in u.s , cnn is very bad too.

I guess I have to spell it out, the reason I brought up fox news is because its owned by the same guy who owns sky. , jeez . I guess I have to be a little more elaborate next time.

 

[mnementh]

I feel that the palestinians are much much worse off than the isreali's

you feel it because you're exposed to biased media agaisnt Israel... btw, quite a few Jews are against Israel too (much like some american who are against the war in iraq etc)... those in england and other places. They like it, because then they're popular and they're interviewed a lot. Media in UK and others love to hear Jews saying bad things about jews...

 

[PhRoZeN]

of course they do. But so do the Lebanese, the Palestinians, the Belgians,...
But what I mean is that not all Jews are Israeli and not Israelis are Jews.

Israel's situation is probably the most difficult political situation in the world, and I don't have a clue about how to resolve it, so I'm not going to say that Israel should do this or not do that. I don't live there, I have no idea what it is to be Israeli, Palestinian or Lebanese these days, but all I see is that innocent people are dying on all sides. I know that sounds stupid, but's that's basically all one can say without talking crap.

Thats a good moralistic view mate well said.

 

[Il Re]

of course they do. But so do the Lebanese, the Palestinians, the Belgians,...
But what I mean is that not all Jews are Israeli and not Israelis are Jews.

Israel's situation is probably the most difficult political situation in the world, and I don't have a clue about how to resolve it, so I'm not going to say that Israel should do this or not do that. I don't live there, I have no idea what it is to be Israeli, Palestinian or Lebanese these days, but all I see is that innocent people are dying on all sides. I know that sounds stupid, but's that's basically all one can say without talking crap.

well put, + rep

 

[mnementh]

I guess I have to spell it out, the reason I brought up fox news is because its owned by the same guy who owns sky. , jeez . I guess I have to be a little more elaborate next time.

And your article explains favourism towards Israel ?

 

[Il Re]

you feel it because you're exposed to biased media agaisnt Israel... btw, quite a few Jews are against Israel too (much like some american who are against the war in iraq etc)... those in england and other places. They like it, because then they're popular and they're interviewed a lot. Media in UK and others love to hear Jews saying bad things about jews...

people in america against the war in iraw dont hate their country, theyre are just opposed to the war, im sure you love your country, but it is a different thing to be "against your country" and "opposed to your countries actions"

 

[Stickyicky]

of course they do. But so do the Lebanese, the Palestinians, the Belgians,...
But what I mean is that not all Jews are Israeli and not Israelis are Jews.

Israel's situation is probably the most difficult political situation in the world, and I don't have a clue about how to resolve it, so I'm not going to say that Israel should do this or not do that. I don't live there, I have no idea what it is to be Israeli, Palestinian or Lebanese these days, but all I see is that innocent people are dying on all sides. I know that sounds stupid, but's that's basically all one can say without talking crap.

Gaaaaay!

Nah..Well said.

 

[mnementh]

if it was really that desperate than it could have taken its land which would have been proberly nothing more bigger than monaco.

this is what Israel did... but it was attacked (1948).

now you are doing exactly what hitler may have done to you and thats wiping out the arabs.

that's just cruel and blatant lying. We're not trying to wipe out anybody. In fact, if there's anyone trying to finish what hitler started are those that keep trying to wipe out the jews ever since 1948 and before.

 

[ReBeL]

Sky News Vote Results :

Is Israel's attack on Lebanon justified?

* Yes 76.79% (165,668 votes)
* No 23.20% (50,072 votes)

Total: 215,740

Expires: 20 Jul 2006

Next Poll for the American people:

Do you think the eggs are green??

Yes 99%
No 1% (An immigrant who has just got the green card)...

 

[PhRoZeN]

you feel it because you're exposed to biased media agaisnt Israel... btw, quite a few Jews are against Israel too (much like some american who are against the war in iraq etc)... those in england and other places. They like it, because then they're popular and they're interviewed a lot. Media in UK and others love to hear Jews saying bad things about jews...

Here we go again about media, I have explained to with facts about how biased it is against the palestinians and others yet you seriously havent showed me anything concrete its almost like talking to a brick wall. Anyway about the jews who know the truth and campaign against it yes I agree they are called neur karta and are orthodox jews believing in the jewish doctrine properly, they regard themselves as the proper jews and rightly so, they believe in co-existance that aint much to ask. There was co-existance prior to when there were shiploads of jewish immigrants entering palestine. I heard about neur karta group from a mate who entered one of their campaigns, NOTE not teh news, infact I have never seen them in the news, I personally vouch that by living in england and im sure many others do too.

 

[PhRoZeN]

Next Poll for the American people:

Do you think the eggs are green??

Yes 99%
No 1% (An immigrant who has just got the green card)...

 

[Il Re]

Here we go again about media, I have explained to with facts about how biased it is against the palestinians and others yet you seriously havent showed me anything concrete its almost like talking to a brick wall. Anyway about the jews who know the truth and campaign against it yes I agree they are called neur karta and are orthodox jews believing in the jewish doctrine properly, they regard themselves as the proper jews and rightly so, they believe in co-existance that aint much to ask. There was co-existance prior to when there were shiploads of jewish immigrants entering palestine. I heard about neur karta group from a mate who entered one of their campaigns, NOTE not teh news, infact I have never seen them in the news, I personally vouch that by living in england and im sure many others do too.

agreed

 

[mnementh]

.
But what I mean is that not all Jews are Israeli and not Israelis are Jews.
.

This is bad... but there are also Italians living in U.S and Australia. Jews are part of the jewish people and their homeland is Israel. This state could have easily been called Judea by the way or something else.

 

[PhRoZeN]

And your article explains favourism towards Israel ?

It was never about favouritism but rather about facts and factual information. That documentary was as factual it can get, it had real interviews from former employees and some current employees too who didnt want to show there faces. It showed clips of how the news uses particular words in there favour to bring out a different story to what is being said, the playing of words is brilliant technique to make people believe YOU are the ones oppressed, gosh this stuff brings tears to my eyes.

 

[mnementh]

Here we go again about media, I have explained to with facts about how biased it is

you didn't explain anything and you showed nothing. You showed some article mentioning an irrelevant documentary about FOX news which says that they have pre determined opinions about the iraq war (no DAH !) and Enron FFS. It has nothing to do with the fact that BBC and other british news HATE Israel and attack it constantly. And neturei carta are fanatics who believe it's unlawful to have a country before the messiah arrives. It has nothing to do with anything.

 

[mnementh]

It was never about favouritism

it has nothing to do with Israel !!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ReBeL]

if you don't know , Mohammed Al-Doura was shot from palestinian gunfire.

http://www.israelinsider.com/channels/diplomacy/articles/dip_0182.htm

You are really so funny...