Israel-Hezbolla; Lebanon stuck in the middle: The new Middle East Crisis (39 Viewers)

[Il Re]

Yes it was a smoke screen. in fact, Israel kidnapped its own soldiers and killed the 20 citizens already itself. And the U.S too has blown up the Twin Towers in purpose just so they have an excuse too. It's all a smoke screen. The jews actually went in the gas chambers in purpose so that they can have an excuse for estbalishing their country later too. All smoke screens. Like The Scorpions say : "When the smoke is going down..."

you'd be surprised (not saying that that your sarcastic comments are even remotely true, but alot of dodgy shit goes down)

 

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[mnementh]

I said smokescreen, not conspiracy theory. Sure the soldiers were kidnapped, but perhaps someone in the Israeli government realised the extraordinary convient opportunity handed to them there...

what's wrong with that ? It's very justified. Hizballah has been provoking the border for 6 years. In the end, one breaks the camel's back.

 

[PhRoZeN]

Israel can use conventional weapons and kill tens of thousands a day. The fact they're not doing it proves only one thing and that is that Israel is trying to target only terrorists while Hizballah is trying to target only civilians. Some of your brainwashing propaganda has effected basic common sense.

Nukes why not? its fairly simple really if they used that it would instantly require condemnation from even those who proberly are blind to see the truth. Nukes brings a devasting effect to the israelis reputation (whatever it has). Instead it is using a similar prospect which is firing from above and sea, this causes enough damage as it is to civilians. They argue that there is no way to handle the hezbullah but apart from that, if thats the really case why cant you just send special ops into lebanon and free your soldier. The amricans and british have the ability to do that and dont tell me you havent, its a much cleaner way to free your soldiers and if you wish kill hezbullah. Im afraid theres only one reason behind these attacks and that is drawing new borders, hsitory has always shown us that and will continue to do so.

 

[mnementh]

you'd be surprised (not saying that that your sarcastic comments are even remotely true, but alot of dodgy shit goes down)

So which of it is true ?

 

[mnementh]

why cant you just send special ops into lebanon and free your soldier. The amricans and british have the ability to do that and dont tell me you havent, its a much cleaner way to free your soldiers

when did the americans and the british did it ? perhaps you're talking about the american attempt to free its hostages in iran ?

drawing new borders...

what is it that you're saying I don't understand... you think Israel wants to expand its border for fun, for conquest, that sort of thing ? You believe that?

 

[Stickyicky]

I said smokescreen, not conspiracy theory. Sure the soldiers were kidnapped, but perhaps someone in the Israeli government realised the extraordinary convient opportunity handed to them there...

Hats off to Isreal for being smart then. Fact is it should of been done a long time ago and whether Isreal saw It's oppurtunity to act now or not they do have just cause.

 

[Il Re]

Sky News just like any british news is biased against Israel obviously. this is a poll though so it has nothing to do with their policy.

please explain how being a british news chanel makes you against isreal? if anything they would be pro isreal, if the media in britain is mostly controlled by the jews surely they would be pro isreal? wasnt britain a big help for the jews in having isreal in the first place?

 

[Il Re]

So which of it is true ?

none of what you said, i was just making the point that sometimes, things are done, don't believe everything you hear on the news and don't believe everything you WANT to believe

 

[mnementh]

please explain how being a british news chanel makes you against isreal? if anything they would be pro isreal, if the media in britain is mostly controlled by the jews surely they would be pro isreal? wasnt britain a big help for the jews in having isreal in the first place?

british news is anti semitic just like most european news, it's pretty obvious. And no, in fact, Britian was the major obstacle for the creation of israel.

 

[mnementh]

don't believe everything you hear on the news

that's true, and I always try to see things in person first.

 

[PhRoZeN]

Sky News just like any british news is biased against Israel obviously. this is a poll though so it has nothing to do with their policy.

Against? explain please with examples.

In case you havent seen a factual documentary that was released by regarding fox news ( owned by rupert murdoch a jew) showing how biased he really is. Ex employees were told to lie in news reports and if they questioned they were sacked, some resigned due to pressure of not being able to do the job they love.

for more information please see:

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0713-04.htm

http://film.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,12589,1265986,00.html

For those living in britain it was shown on ITV4 a week ago and i am assuming itw ill be shown again in a few weeks time so keep tabs on your tv times, it usually comes on after 1am, which aint much of a suprise.

 

[mnementh]

PhRoZeN, I've been following BBC for years, and their one sided way of the conflict, highlighting palestinian's pain and ignoring the agony of israelis is very clear for me. I don't need to watch anything to think otherwise, there are actually graet satires composed by israelies explaining this. It's heinous. btw, I don't see how british news are connected to FOX NEWS which is indeed pro-american policies.

 

[Il Re]

british news is anti semitic just like most european news, it's pretty obvious. And no, in fact, Britian was the major obstacle for the creation of israel.

My friend, i garantee you, that british news is 100% pro isreal

 

[mnementh]

My friend, i garantee you, that british news is 100% pro isreal

and I can guarantee to you that it isn't. in fact, the very thought this is what you think is disturbing. If that's pro israeli for you, then I guess a media depicting Jews as Satan's helpers butchering kids for blood for Passover is what.... no wonder people get twisted images of the truth.

 

[Geof]

british news is anti semitic just like most european news, it's pretty obvious. And no, in fact, Britian was the major obstacle for the creation of israel.

please don't mix anti semitism and anti Israel again.

True, a lot of people in Europe don't feel confortable with the existence of Israel. But that doesn't make them anti semitic.

 

[mnementh]

please don't mix anti semitism and anti Israel again.

True, a lot of people in Europe don't feel confortable with the existence of Israel. But that doesn't make them anti semitic.

IMO, it does. There's a strong connection between the two.

now let me ask you people :

Does Israel deserve anything at all in your opinion ? Anything ? Do Israelis have the right to live ? Does it have any territory which is ok to have ?

 

[PhRoZeN]

PhRoZeN, I've been following BBC for years, and their one sided way of the conflict, highlighting palestinian's pain and ignoring the agony of israelis is very clear for me. I don't need to watch anything to think otherwise, there are actually graet satires composed by israelies explaining this. It's heinous. btw, I don't see how british news are connected to FOX NEWS which is indeed pro-american policies.

I wasnt talking about BBC, in case you didnt rea dit properly it was about skynews, the whole subject arised when you brought your "factual" information up regarding the survey. BBC by no means is anti israeli either, I live in uk I see it proberly more than most here, infact i spend half of my day watching bbc news 24, tehre are no doubt biased in tehre news too but not as bad as sky news or others, just because they dont filter as much by no means they are anti semtic, I feel teh israelis find any old news to target sympathy from anyone and everyoen for these two words "anti semitism". Sky news is shown in britain in case you didnt know which makes it a british news channel. Also regarding the special operations issue please stop side stepping what I throw at you, you already knew the answer before asking me teh obvious of questions, yes an example is that of iran, so tell me this why cant you do that? its a simple question, stop answering my question with a question.

 

[Il Re]

and I can guarantee to you that it isn't. in fact, the very thought this is what you think is disturbing. If that's pro israeli for you, then I guess a media depicting Jews as Satan's helpers butchering kids for blood for Passover is what.... no wonder people get twisted images of the truth.

its a simple equation, jewish controlled media = pro isreal, jewish people stick together, they stick up for each other, all the british channels dipict the palestinians as the bad guys (obviously the terrorist are) but they always justify killing by isreal even if there is no logical excuse. I live in Britain i should know, and its even in the newspapers, in large lettersONE ISREALI DIES, yet in very small print at the bottom of the page will be 23 palestinians shot dead I know there are both sides to the story, and you are defending your country, and i am sad that there is this fighting and that the palestinians use terrorism, but I feel that the palestinians are much much worse off than the isreali's

 

[Slagathor]

what's wrong with that ? It's very justified. Hizballah has been provoking the border for 6 years. In the end, one breaks the camel's back.

Oh I didn't say it was wrong, just that it's a bit fishy...

 

[mnementh]

I wasnt talking about BBC, in case you didnt rea dit properly it was about skynews

and yet you brought an article about FOX news which it too didn't have anything to do with israel.... bbc, sky and any british channel is biased against israel. in u.s , cnn is very bad too.