Israel-Hezbolla; Lebanon stuck in the middle: The new Middle East Crisis (5 Viewers)

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May 27, 2006
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mnementh said:
My original country is Israel.

But let me tell you something ... you can take Jews out of Israel one day, but you can't take Israel out of the Jews. The Jews will always come back to their land because it's theirs and they love it and they'll die for it. For 3000 years Jews prayed "Next year in Jerusalem", no "Palestinian" ever did the same.
hmmmm let me see, I've seen at least 200 elementary history books and a bunch others for higher level students( Cuz my uncle reviews history books), and NEVER BUT NEVER i 've seen a country named Israel more than 60 years old, starting with the fact that no country is more than 300 years old, so i think u gotta review some math and history. i've read about israelites and their monogamous religion (the only one at the time in the region) their horrible treat with women, their SEMI-NOMADIC style of live, some cultural traits but bout a country.... lemme see: NO! dude jews usrped that land from palestinians, u want prove that palestinians were sedentary people living on what now u so proudly call israel?? how bout for once u check a history book?. Now on that poitn of no Palestinian not ever parying in jerusalem next year, well i think its so god damn obvious why they didnt do it ; that what u said just makes me wanna ask u ur adress so i can send a few history and theology books ( i'd have to charge u though).

Right now my actual girlfriend is a jew, and she is kinda like u; so stubborn and pretentious about a land that u stole from some1 that has lived there for those 3000 years.

If u r asking urself why if i hate so much jews, im with a jew, well its simple: she's gorgeous and i try not to talk with people i know bout religion bcuz thats just a way of thought and if u dont harm any1 elses way of thought,its ok, and she doesnt.

Since i really hate fighting with any1 srry if i somehow insulted u, but next time try to put in a palestinian shoes. Its not ez to see the place where u live get bombed everyday, to be told that the place u call ur 'country', 'home', 'neighboorhood', 'land', etc is not longer urs bcuz other people decided it just isnt; i.e: how bout i go to ur place and i tell u: Get the fuk out of here, its mine now; i bet u'd get pretty angry; bcuz its urs no matter what other peeps say. I can understand that jews that have lived all their lives there love that land, thats obvious, but that just doesnt justify killing or hating palestinians.

So what i would like to tell u is: Srry for any insult, and think about how the palestinians feel about the land u call urs, be4 saying anything pro israeli or pro palestinian, ok?

Remember all wars have been because some1 thinks he's right bout something, which is the worst thing u can do in life: Believe u r right bout something, except the fact that juve is the best :D
 

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Sadomin

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Apr 5, 2005
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ReBeL said:
That's your problem, my dear...

If you followed the thread since its beginning, the first one that claimed to be an Israeli had a German and Iraqi grandfathers, and Romanian and Iraqi grandmother...

Tell me how they can be linked to Palestine land except for myths since thousands of years...
Imagine this scenario: In 1000 years, Saudi Arabia belongs to a non-muslim nation. Wouldn't Muslims accross the world still consider themselves the righteous owners of Mecca and Medina, and attempt to reclaim it?

I'm not justifying the acts of the Israelis, nor the acts of the Arabs. However since we both know that Israel is a sovereign nation today, there's no denying of the existance of the Israeli nationality. What happened 1948 is history now, and truth is that Israel today is a threatened nation. Half of its neighbours want it and its people eliminated, and they have tried to do so ever since 1948. Such pressure leads to the desperate actions which we are seeing today.
 

Sadomin

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Apr 5, 2005
7,327
ReBeL said:
And why should Iraqis and Palestinians have the same country??

Because they speak the same language??

Do you hint that Portuguese could be sent to Brazil just because both of them speak the same words??
That was a response to Altair's post. Please don't take my words out of context.
 
May 27, 2006
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mephiztopheles said:
hmmmm let me see, I've seen at least 200 elementary history books and a bunch others for higher level students( Cuz my uncle reviews history books), and NEVER BUT NEVER i 've seen a country named Israel more than 60 years old, starting with the fact that no country is more than 300 years old, so i think u gotta review some math and history. i've read about israelites and their monogamous religion (the only one at the time in the region) their horrible treat with women, their SEMI-NOMADIC style of live, some cultural traits but bout a country.... lemme see: NO! dude jews usrped that land from palestinians, u want prove that palestinians were sedentary people living on what now u so proudly call israel?? how bout for once u check a history book?. Now on that poitn of no Palestinian not ever parying in jerusalem next year, well i think its so god damn obvious why they didnt do it ; that what u said just makes me wanna ask u ur adress so i can send a few history and theology books ( i'd have to charge u though).

Right now my actual girlfriend is a jew, and she is kinda like u; so stubborn and pretentious about a land that u stole from some1 that has lived there for those 3000 years.

If u r asking urself why if i hate so much jews, im with a jew, well its simple: she's gorgeous and i try not to talk with people i know bout religion bcuz thats just a way of thought and if u dont harm any1 elses way of thought,its ok, and she doesnt.

Since i really hate fighting with any1 srry if i somehow insulted u, but next time try to put in a palestinian shoes. Its not ez to see the place where u live get bombed everyday, to be told that the place u call ur 'country', 'home', 'neighboorhood', 'land', etc is not longer urs bcuz other people decided it just isnt; i.e: how bout i go to ur place and i tell u: Get the fuk out of here, its mine now; i bet u'd get pretty angry; bcuz its urs no matter what other peeps say. I can understand that jews that have lived all their lives there love that land, thats obvious, but that just doesnt justify killing or hating palestinians.

So what i would like to tell u is: Srry for any insult, and think about how the palestinians feel about the land u call urs, be4 saying anything pro israeli or pro palestinian, ok?

Remember all wars have been because some1 thinks he's right bout something, which is the worst thing u can do in life: Believe u r right bout something, except the fact that juve is the best :D
:oops: :oops: :oops: i got a bit heated here, my Gf would kill me if she finds out i called her stubborn
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
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Sadomin said:
Imagine this scenario: In 1000 years, Saudi Arabia belongs to a non-muslim nation. Wouldn't Muslims accross the world still consider themselves the righteous owners of Mecca and Medina, and attempt to reclaim it?

I'm not justifying the acts of the Israelis, nor the acts of the Arabs. However since we both know that Israel is a sovereign nation today, there's no denying of the existance of the Israeli nationality. What happened 1948 is history now, and truth is that Israel today is a threatened nation. Half of its neighbours want it and its people eliminated, and they have tried to do so ever since 1948. Such pressure leads to the desperate actions which we are seeing today.
There is nothing called history when the people who were forced to get out of their homes are still alive...

And whose people eliminated??

And yes, you're right...

Israelis have the right to kill everybody and expand into other countries, because of one reason: They are disperate:cry: :cry:
 
Sep 2, 2004
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ReBeL said:
No...

The man meant that this man, who claims that he came with his family and found the country empty, and had no people, is just trying to justify Israel's long history of taking lands from Arabs and making massacres to them to make them run away...

Look at this map of Palestine 1946, and you'll see:

Sadomin
next time u speak refer to this map and this site http://www.fromisraeltolebanon.org/
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
22,871
ßömßärdîër said:
I didn't mean it as an animal, chump, i meant it like saying:bro, holmes, etc.

Ever heard someone say, yo, what you doin? Nothing dog, just chillin?

Guess not.
I won't be surprised if moderators will translate it like what you're saying...

They just gave me 4 points warnings for calling somebody Scoopy Dopy Doo...
 

mnementh

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Jun 5, 2005
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I'm an 8th generation born in Israel. Jews have always lived in Israel. In 1929 for example Arabs in Israel have brtually massacared (if you really want to know what they did it's not PG...) the Jewish population of Hebron which was 3000 years old. Jews have been here through every occupier of our land and through every nation who came here, but none had an attachment as clear as the Jews to this land. None. The whole fiction that Israel/Palestina (which is the Roman name for the area... they don't even have a name for our land) is a fiction created in modern times only to counter the Jews and destroy them as part of the idea of pan-arabism and muslim domination. I'm sorry if you don't like it, but no nazi from colombia who was ditched by a Jewish girl will tell me where to live and what belongs to me.

As for those who wrote some messages on the shells, boo hoo. These familes grew up for years under bombings from these animals, so don't go criticize them. All they want is a bit peace and quiet. You have no idea what they wrote anyway. It's funny how someone will accuse them of something after kids in gaza are writing martyer songs, dressing babies with suicide belts, burning models of buses, and actually participating in fightings in lebanon.

Can we actually get moral advice from people who do this ?????????



FFS...



glroying child martyrs...


and urging children to kill...

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=22856

It's always so funny to get MORAL ADVICE from countries where no civil rights or human rights even exist .... In Israel, palestinians can actually go to the High Court of Justice of Israel and get injuctions against deportation/house destorying of terrorists and so on... this is like Saddam Hussein talking about how xenophobic the U.S is or something. It's unbelievable.

We're here to stay.

the baby suicide bomber :
 

mnementh

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Jun 5, 2005
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See the swastika, for those questioning the nazi salutes. Or is that because it's also a chinese symbol. if you don't understand, these are parades done in kindergarten all the time.



if you want there are some chilling videos too.
 

Enron

Tickle Me
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Oct 11, 2005
75,665
I can't wait til the US gets involved and we end up with an all out World War in the Middle East, congratulations Isreal and Hezbollah. Job Well Done.* :tup:



*Post was completely sarcastic.
 
May 9, 2006
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Please go to http://julywar.epetitions.net and sign the Save the Lebanese Civilians Petition and forward this invitation to your friends.

Lebanese civilians have been under the constant attack of the state of Israel for several days. The State of Israel, in disregard to international law and the Geneva Convention, is launching a maritime and air siege targeting the entire population of the country. Innocent civilians are being collectively punished in Lebanon by the state of Israel in deliberate acts of terrorism as described in Article 33 of the Geneva Convention.



Please, also check this out

http://www.fromisraeltolebanon.org
 

mnementh

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Jun 5, 2005
2,122
ReBeL said:
There is nothing called history when the people who were forced to get out of their homes are still alive...
you shouldn't have fled. You could have recognised the UN partition plan... you can see from your own map it was fair because there were Jews and most of the area went to the arabs. You fled so the 7 countries could eliminate all Jews comfortably... and then come back. Yet you couldn't. The thing is it proves how little you cared to have a country here... the whole idea of independent arab state in Eretz Yisrael/Palestina didn't exist. Live with it and get on with it. Jews fled from Arab states to here. This is life, learn to live with your deadly mistakes.
 

Tom

The DJ
Oct 30, 2001
11,726
Sorry mate but what good is an online petition going to be in this case? Israel ain't gonna listen, and the UN/NATO will hardly change agenda because of it.
 

Maresca

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Aug 23, 2004
8,235
joe jhonson said:
Please go to http://julywar.epetitions.net and sign the Save the Lebanese Civilians Petition and forward this invitation to your friends.

Lebanese civilians have been under the constant attack of the state of Israel for several days. The State of Israel, in disregard to international law and the Geneva Convention, is launching a maritime and air siege targeting the entire population of the country. Innocent civilians are being collectively punished in Lebanon by the state of Israel in deliberate acts of terrorism as described in Article 33 of the Geneva Convention.


Please, also check this out

http://www.fromisraeltolebanon.org
these articles are not valid for Israel..
 
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