Israel-Hezbolla; Lebanon stuck in the middle: The new Middle East Crisis (31 Viewers)

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Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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PhRoZeN said:
A conscription in a country which boasts the most technological and automated armor presented to mankind hmm.

Well to one things for sure we have our first killer online. Anyway sarcasm aside, its good to know your trying to take a peaceful approach, although I got a different impression in your first post when you wanted lebanon destroyed.
I never said I want Lebanon destroyed
I said I want Israel not destroyed
 

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Orgut

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Dec 31, 2002
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ReBeL said:
Can I ask where your ancestors are from originally??
Well my grandfather was from Germany
my grandmother was from Romania
my other grandfather was from Iraq
and my other grandmother is from Iraq
 

cyril

Let's roll
Jul 6, 2006
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Orgut said:
Israel want to expand thru Palestine?!?!:wallbang:
Do you truely believe that?!

The Palestinians bomb us all the times and Israel stay silenced because they want peace

Now that Lebanon bombed Israel in Haifa, do you expect Israel to sit back and let Lebanon take over Israel?!
They reacted in self defence and like President Bush said Israel have every right to defend theirselves since it is self defence!
Look man WE lebanese have nothing to do with hezeb allah they are extremist and all chrstians and most sunist dont like them we want peace, if you want to defend yourself do it but our airport has nothing to do with hezeb allah attacking your soldiers...
you just fucked up our summer season, if that ever matters.

I highly respect jews and israeliens and to be honest, i wish you could handle and dispose of hezeb allah they are taking it a step too far
But to hit our bridges and electric power plants is just not right
and im totally against attacking your cities across the border.
We can all live together peacefully.

Once again do not blame lebanon were not involved in this and certainly dont suggest we take over your country because we only care about ours, the palestinians fucked our country for 25 years during our civil war they started it.
They deserve a land just like you do, but acting all stupid in attacking you and commiting "jihad" wont get them nowhere, just the same way as you denying them a land in jerusalem is stupid
WE WANT PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST WE WANT FUCKING PEACE....
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
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Orgut said:
Well my grandfather was from Germany
my grandmother was from Romania
my other grandfather was from Iraq
and my other grandmother is from Iraq
Its a great way to apply for citizenship at any of them countries and play football for them.
 

Stickyicky

Junior Member
May 19, 2006
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PhRoZeN said:
yeah but when your living the "american dream", who gives a crap right?
Exactly, not everyone cares about the whole Palestine situation. It doesn't mean you are out of touch with what's going on in the rest of the World.

Majed is in a Juventus football forum, that's proof enough he's in touch. Not everyone spends their freetime reading about depressing shit.
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
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cyril said:
Look man WE lebanese have nothing to do with hezeb allah they are extremist and all chrstians and most sunist dont like them we want peace, if you want to defend yourself do it but our airport has nothing to do with hezeb allah attacking your soldiers...
you just fucked up our summer season, if that ever matters.

I highly respect jews and israeliens and to be honest, i wish you could handle and dispose of hezeb allah they are taking it a step too far
But to hit our bridges and electric power plants is just not right
and im totally against attacking your cities across the border.
We can all live together peacefully.

Once again do not blame lebanon were not involved in this and certainly dont suggest we take over your country because we only care about ours, the palestinians fucked our country for 25 years during our civil war they started it.
They deserve a land just like you do, but acting all stupid in attacking you and commiting "jihad" wont get them nowhere, just the same way as you denying them a land in jerusalem is stupid
WE WANT PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST WE WANT FUCKING PEACE....
try signing an olso accord deal with them ;)
 

PhRoZeN

Livin with Mediocre
Mar 29, 2006
16,931
Stickyicky said:
Exactly, not everyone cares about the whole Palestine situation. It doesn't mean you are out of touch with what's going on in the rest of the World.
Or rather what you believe the world is showing you.. ill leave that for a possible further discussion later on

Stickyicky said:
Majed is in a Juventus football forum, that's proof enough he's in touch. Not everyone spends their freetime reading about depressing shit.
Of course not thats a matter of morals and ethics, theres one thing knowing, another acting and another feeling and sharing your sentiments.
 

Majed

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Jul 17, 2002
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Orgut said:
Because They believe that our territory is theirs and we believe it is ours!
There is all the problem

I tell you the truth I am not a religious man not even a believer
The only thing I believe in is god

I personally don`t care what should be done. I want the two countries to live in peace!

But unfortunately unlike me there are many believers all over the world and there are many believers in Israel and in Palestine and our terrirory certainly means a lot to both!

My personal opinion is that the two countries therefore should try to live in peace together at the same territory (since both sides won`t back up from demanding this territory)

Unfortunately that is not gonna happen
I'm glad we are seeing some common ground. I'll confirm to you that most Palestinians want peace as well. However, yes, the land is the focal point of the dispute, but it's the violence back and forth that won't help the situation.

However, I wish the same attitude towards violence could be said about some members of the Israeli government as well as Arabs who just want Jews wiped off the map.

Orgut, from the Israeli general public's point of view, do they see that the freedom of one prisonor of war (Israeli soldier) is worth the lives of many civilians? Or is this not even discussed?
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,348
ReBeL said:
I just wanted to show everybody that you have no right to live in that place you're living in now...
Actually I believe everyone have a right to live wherever he wants!

But if you speaking about this condition you have to realize something
Palestinians and Israeli both have a reason why this land should be theirs and each side believe he is right when theoretically both sides can be right and the only 2 ways to solve this are by starting a war or my preffered but almost impossible choice to learn to live together in peace!
 

ReBeL

The Jackal
Jan 14, 2005
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Orgut said:
Actually I believe everyone have a right to live wherever he wants!

But if you speaking about this condition you have to realize something
Palestinians and Israeli both have a reason why this land should be theirs and each side believe he is right when theoretically both sides can be right and the only 2 ways to solve this are by starting a war or my preffered but almost impossible choice to learn to live together in peace!
Well, knowing how Israel deals with the refugees' issue, I have to assure you that war is inevitable...

I can't see the land where my father was born, and I'm treated very badly everywhere in the World because of nothing but because I'm a refugee...
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,348
Majed said:
I'm glad we are seeing some common ground. I'll confirm to you that most Palestinians want peace as well. However, yes, the land is the focal point of the dispute, but it's the violence back and forth that won't help the situation.

However, I wish the same attitude towards violence could be said about some members of the Israeli government as well as Arabs who just want Jews wiped off the map.

Orgut, from the Israeli general public's point of view, do they see that the freedom of one prisonor of war (Israeli soldier) is worth the lives of many civilians? Or is this not even discussed?
I don`t know how it is in other countries but In Israel we believe every people kidnapped wheather it is a soldier or not should be rescued
 
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