Is Obama fucking America's Constitution with his big dong? (9 Viewers)
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Good theory. But either Andy has been proxying to a DSL provider in Slovenia or it's a different person.The irony that the world is full of cry-baby pantywaists who lament that they live in the worst of political systems and times when they really should tell that to the face of someone who had their property confiscated and some of their family members "disappeared"?
Oh yeah, that's irony alright, drama queen style.
The strategy to save Greece was mostly founded on lies. But the truth is also that there are far too many people on the corrupt dole there, and that needs to clean house to even be sustainable.
But equating the current EU authority to "slavery" serves to belittle the real abuses and injury inflicted upon true slaves for the previous centuries.
After working for 15 years consulting for health care businesses in the U.S., last night over dinner my wife was telling me how she came to the irrefutable conclusion that not one health care company in America is looking out for patient care as anything close to their primary concern. Patients are feck all on their own in a world where nobody wants to cure anything but instead needs to keep you as a lifetime subscriber.
So much for the theoretical promise of free market healthcare.
Greg - you once talked about cancer and chemo in the States. It was about how the doctors gave dying cancer patients chemo, because of money or something?
Sådan som det har udspillet sig i Danmark, ligner det mere og mere en privatisering af offentlige ansvarsområder til private firmaer og dermed kommer vi skridt for skridt længere fra en velfærdsstat og tættere på amerikanske tilstande. UDKs overtagelse af en række vitale kommunale ansvarsområder virker som et fint eksempel i denne forbindelse.
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I wasn't being serious, and I'm not so sure feudal states would be an improvement over what we have in Scandinavia. Not so sure if I'd keep on to the same conclusion when the USA are the subject of discussion 
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'Cause feudal states are an improvement?
Yep. Doctors are financially incented on a by-procedure basis -- and not directly by keeping their patients healthy. So it's in their interests to prescribe a lot, and to prescribe more expensive things, even if the outcomes might be minimal improvements at best. That much needs to be shifted, IMO.
Doctors should be rewarded for outcomes, not on all the busywork they can do or bill independent of that.
Doctors should be rewarded for outcomes, not on all the busywork they can do or bill independent of that.
Good theory. But either Andy has been proxying to a DSL provider in Slovenia or it's a different person.The irony that the world is full of cry-baby pantywaists who lament that they live in the worst of political systems and times when they really should tell that to the face of someone who had their property confiscated and some of their family members "disappeared"?
Oh yeah, that's irony alright, drama queen style.
The strategy to save Greece was mostly founded on lies. But the truth is also that there are far too many people on the corrupt dole there, and that needs to clean house to even be sustainable.
But equating the current EU authority to "slavery" serves to belittle the real abuses and injury inflicted upon true slaves for the previous centuries.
After working for 15 years consulting for health care businesses in the U.S., last night over dinner my wife was telling me how she came to the irrefutable conclusion that not one health care company in America is looking out for patient care as anything close to their primary concern. Patients are feck all on their own in a world where nobody wants to cure anything but instead needs to keep you as a lifetime subscriber.
So much for the theoretical promise of free market healthcare.
conclusion: money moves people and democracy doesnt work
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hey im down with that who needs filibuster when you can filibust a cap in your rivals ass
Nobody wants to cure shit anymore. That would be like making an iPhone you'd never have to replace or upgrade for life.
Saddling your population with subscription costs for chronic care instead of a cure represents a massive public drain on any country's GNP. That's wasted money no matter what political side you take.
But at least where you are, the government plays a role in price controls. Which explains why your prices for the same procedures are merely a fraction of what they cost here. The best we have in the U.S. for that is leverage through Medicare. Instead it's left as a bizarre negotiation of arbitrary pricing between insurance companies and health care providers.
This is one area where, if the system stands as it is in the U.S. with third-party payers, the U.S. needs more government involvement in healthcare and not less.
That should cause some blood and bile to spit up among a number of folks here.
They also need matching black hoodies with things like "The Insane 22 Congressional District" written across the back.
Saddling your population with subscription costs for chronic care instead of a cure represents a massive public drain on any country's GNP. That's wasted money no matter what political side you take.
But at least where you are, the government plays a role in price controls. Which explains why your prices for the same procedures are merely a fraction of what they cost here. The best we have in the U.S. for that is leverage through Medicare. Instead it's left as a bizarre negotiation of arbitrary pricing between insurance companies and health care providers.
This is one area where, if the system stands as it is in the U.S. with third-party payers, the U.S. needs more government involvement in healthcare and not less.
That should cause some blood and bile to spit up among a number of folks here.
They also need matching black hoodies with things like "The Insane 22 Congressional District" written across the back.
