Iraq. Is it better now?? (AKA ISIS/ISIL/IS/name-of-the-week-here) (28 Viewers)

[Maddy]

I disagree here. What Assad regime did during the last 3.5 years can not be compared ever with what ISIS did.

The regime killed more than 190000 people. How many people were killed by ISIS?
The regime forced more than 3 millions to leave the country and many other millions to leave their houses and relocate inside the country. How many people were forced to do so by ISIS?
A very nice and big city called Homs was almost wiped off the map by Assad regime. Give me the name of one village or city that suffered the same by ISIS

Again, I don't support ISIS, but it is not right to make ISIS the most horrible thing that happened in the region while we all know it is not.

Ahh, the old stalin vs. hitler argument & rhetoric

 

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[Zacheryah]

Is that moron still defending ISIS ?

 

[Trequartista]

I disagree here. What Assad regime did during the last 3.5 years can not be compared ever with what ISIS did.

The regime killed more than 190000 people. How many people were killed by ISIS?
The regime forced more than 3 millions to leave the country and many other millions to leave their houses and relocate inside the country. How many people were forced to do so by ISIS?
A very nice and big city called Homs was almost wiped off the map by Assad regime. Give me the name of one village or city that suffered the same by ISIS

Again, I don't support ISIS, but it is not right to make ISIS the most horrible thing that happened in the region while we all know it is not.

You're attributing all the deaths of a civil war to one side?

That's pretty disingenuous.

 

[Nzoric]

I disagree here. What Assad regime did during the last 3.5 years can not be compared ever with what ISIS did.

The regime killed more than 190000 people. How many people were killed by ISIS?
The regime forced more than 3 millions to leave the country and many other millions to leave their houses and relocate inside the country. How many people were forced to do so by ISIS?
A very nice and big city called Homs was almost wiped off the map by Assad regime. Give me the name of one village or city that suffered the same by ISIS

Again, I don't support ISIS, but it is not right to make ISIS the most horrible thing that happened in the region while we all know it is not.

It takes two to have a civil war, buddy.

 

[ReBeL]

You're attributing all the deaths of a civil war to one side?

That's pretty disingenuous.

It is a revolution, not a civil war. The side that is responsible for all the deaths is the regime that did not step down when the majority told him to do so.

 

[Trequartista]

It is a revolution, not a civil war. The side that is responsible for all the deaths is the regime that did not step down when the majority told him to do so.

Did the majority really ask him to step down? Because according to all popularity polls Assad has the support of the majority of Syrians.

And in any case that kind of logic is flawed.

 

[ReBeL]

Did the majority really ask him to step down? Because according to all popularity polls Assad has the support of the majority of Syrians.

And in any case that kind of logic is flawed.

What polls are you talking about? I'm curious to know. Please do not tell me they were organized by the regime itself

 

[Trequartista]

What polls are you talking about? I'm curious to know. Please do not tell me they were organized by the regime itself

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jan/17/syrians-support-assad-western-propaganda

 

[ReBeL]

Is that moron still defending ISIS ?

This thread is for grown-ups, dear

Go and fly a kite in the yard until we finish our discussion

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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jan/17/syrians-support-assad-western-propaganda

Well, that is hardly a poll to be honest.

Here are the info about that poll in the comments of that article:

The total sample size, across the Middle East, was 1,012.
In five Levant countries (Syria, Jordan, Palestine, Lebanon and Iraq) the total sample was 211 people -- of whom 46% were in Syria. Therefore, by my reckoning, the total number of people interviewed in Syria was only 97. That is hardly a representative sample.
In addition, because of the fear factor, it is unsafe to assume that people in Syria necessarily gave a truthful answer.
In other words, it's scarcely surprising that the poll's findings have been widely ignored.

And I even tried to see the poll by clicking the link they are referring to in the link but it does not work.

Do you have other polls?

 

[Eddy]

It is a revolution, not a civil war.

Hmm, I think the key word here is it was a revolution until foreigners came in to the play

The side that is responsible for all the deaths is the regime that did not step down when the majority told him to do so.

Israelis say the same of Hamas

Again, I don't support ISIS, but it is not right to make ISIS the most horrible thing that happened in the region while we all know it is not.

It's getting there incredibly fast though

Unfortunately Hezbollah did drag us in this when they decided to take part of the Syrian war. That was the most stupid decision they could make.

An Iranian decision most likely

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jan/17/syrians-support-assad-western-propaganda

Not surprised by the least. When the revolution began, I think it's safe to say everyone was against Assad. You'd be surprised to see that much of the Syrian refugees here in Lebanon are pro-Assad, at least the ones I've met. Sure they'd want democracy, but not at the expense of fighting against ISIS at the moment.

I wouldn't take a popularity poll organised by the regime seriously, that's for sure

 

[Azzurri7]

Did the majority really ask him to step down? Because according to all popularity polls Assad has the support of the majority of Syrians.

And in any case that kind of logic is flawed.

There was never a poll to begin with

An Iranian decision most likely

 

[Turk_Bianconero]

You're attributing all the deaths of a civil war to one side?

That's pretty disingenuous.

Assad started it by not only refusing the demands of fair elections but also killing the protesters. Him being so afraid of reforms for elections shows how 'majority of Syria' support him.

It could have been prevented.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-242543-erdogan-warns-assad-against-division-of-syria.html

Article is saying that 263 Syrians are now living in a camp in Turkiye's south east. Well, now they more than a million and 60,000 Syrian babies born in Turkiye. Hell with Assad and whoever speak good about him.

 

[swag]

As much as I despise ISIS, you do realize how much of a joke it is that there are people in my country that think everything is better with bombs.

 

[Eddy]

As much as I despise ISIS, you do realize how much of a joke it is that there are people in my country that think everything is better with bombs.

It's what happens when the current generation is only interested in playing CoD/FPS shooters addictively.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

It's what happens when the current generation is only interested in playing CoD/FPS shooters addictively.

12 year olds have no bearing on what actually happens.

 

[swag]

The Hawks get their way a lot. George W Bush was their tool in the second invasion of Iraq. Obama is their tool now.

 

[Eddy]

12 year olds have no bearing on what actually happens.

It'll only get worse.

 

[AFL_ITALIA]

It'll only get worse.

I think the opposite will happen.

 

[ALC]

12 year olds have no bearing on what actually happens.

This.

Bombs have been a "solution" since before video games.

 

[ZoSo]

Those Romans sure did love their FPS games