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Dostoevsky

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They might qualify with another coach, but they still lack quality, as do all the ex-Yu teams. They all have 2, 3 or 4 class players, 2-3 ok players and a whole bunch of mediocre players. You need very good starting XI AND very good bench in order to do very good. An entire Yugoslavia would have had it, but the republics on their own don't have it.
If we're talking about getting to the semis, then I agree with this. If you're talking about pure qualifications for Euros I disagree completely as I think it's a disaster to see teams like Estonia or some going there and us not getting a chance.
 

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Dostoevsky

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I agree, Antic shouldn't come back and I'm glad he sued their ass and won the case. But we still have good coaches, I don't think a foreign coach is the way forward. If we should get a foreign coach, it should be one of the highest caliber - and we're not getting them. Might aswell hire our own.
Who? We have pathetic coaches. And all of them live in '90 and play that style, just like 99% of Italian coaches do (bar Prandelli and Conte I think).

We need a new style, new everything. And our coaches can't offer such.
 

Nzoric

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Tbh, Serbia NT is only weak in two spots. Striker and goalie. With a competent coach and team harmony the team could qualify for the 2nd leg of the Euro Cup, and push for the 3rd round.
 

Nzoric

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Who? We have pathetic coaches. And all of them live in '90 and play that style, just like 99% of Italian coaches do (bar Prandelli and Conte I think).

We need a new style, new everything. And our coaches can't offer such.
Rajevac had a pretty cool system with Ghana - for example.
 

Dostoevsky

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Tbh, Serbia NT is only weak in two spots. Striker and goalie. With a competent coach and team harmony the team could qualify for the 2nd leg of the Euro Cup, and push for the 3rd round.
Not true.

Our MC spot is weak (Stankovic, Milijas, Petkovic, Fejsa) and we only have one proper winger. We have no playmaker... we have many weak spots.
 

Nzoric

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Not true.

Our MC spot is weak (Stankovic, Milijas, Petkovic, Fejsa) and we only have one proper winger. We have no playmaker... we have many weak spots.
Stankovic, Ljajic, Fejsa are pretty good players. You don't consider Tosic a good winger?
And we have Sulejmani. Why he isn't being played is beyond any level of comprehension that I possess.
 

Dostoevsky

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Stankovic, Ljajic, Fejsa are pretty good players. You don't consider Tosic a good winger?
And we have Sulejmani. Why he isn't being played is beyond any level of comprehension that I possess.
Stankovic WAS a good player, he's not anymore. And even when he WAS great he was awful for Serbia. Fejsa good? :lol:

Ljajic and Sulejmani are very good, but they are not playing. I love Tosic, but I don't think Jovanovic is.

I'd play this for sure

GK

Ivanovic - Vidic - Subotic - Kolarov

Kuzmanovic - Petrovic(...)

Krasic - Ljajic - Tosic

Sulejamni
 

Zlatan

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Only Menez's pathetic dive wasn't a foul. The rest were clear. Spahic was an idiot for losing the ball like that against Nasri and then fouling him.
I agree. The dive of Menez wasnt a foul, but tbh he did dive well, so no hard feelings agaisnt the ref for that. I just dont know if Spahić is suspended for the playoffs now. If he is we should probably appeal, and ask for the yellow card to be deleted. Still, I dont think they ever do that.

And the penalty was a clear penalty, a bit unlucky because he had the ball but still a penalty.


They might qualify with another coach, but they still lack quality, as do all the ex-Yu teams. They all have 2, 3 or 4 class players, 2-3 ok players and a whole bunch of mediocre players. You need very good starting XI AND very good bench in order to do very good. An entire Yugoslavia would have had it, but the republics on their own don't have it.
Agreed again. We have a few good/great players (Begović, Spahić, Lulić, Salihović, Pjanić, Džeko), but generally we dont have a full team of quality players and we dont have enough width on the bench, if one of the main players gets injured we're screwed.

An ex-Yu team would be the bomb.



Am I correct in my assumption that "we" is Bosnia? I don't really feel that's a reason. A stadium can be locked tight by the police, and if it's too much of a risk the game can be played without a crowd.
But then again, Im also flying to Serbia when we meet Croatia in Belgrade - that might be the root of our disagreement :D
Yes, Bosnia. It's not just about the game on the stadium, its about the general atmosphere which would be in the country, there would be a us agaisnt them attitude (federation vs republika srpska) and in the cities where both serbs and muslims live there would definitely be conflicts. There are always troubles between muslims and croats in Mostar for example when we play against eachother, and even a lot of problems in the domestic league. So it's better to avoid the option all together if possible. I just hope we dont get Croatia.
 

Nzoric

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Jan 16, 2011
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Stankovic WAS a good player, he's not anymore. And even when he WAS great he was awful for Serbia. Fejsa good? :lol:

Ljajic and Sulejmani are very good, but they are not playing. I love Tosic, but I don't think Jovanovic is.

I'd play this for sure

GK

Ivanovic - Vidic - Subotic - Kolarov

Kuzmanovic - Petrovic(...)

Krasic - Ljajic - Tosic

Sulejamni
I agree with the formation and all the players in it bar one. Stankovic instead of Petrovic. If you say anyone played good in our team today, Stankovic did. Puts in a solid performance every time, runs and never gives up. He was pretty calm today, but he is played in the wrong way. He's no regista, he was a box to box player - now he should just stick with the defensive duties which he can still execute quite well.

edit: How do you feel about Kacar? I think he definitely deserves a chance to play. Was quite good under Antic.
 

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