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ReBeL

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Zé Tahir said:
His name was Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, he was born in Qadiyan, India in 1835 and passed away in 1908.

Here's a over-all reading about him and the Ahmadiyya sect:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirza_Ghulam_Ahmad

It looks accurate, except I'm not sure about the last sentence.

If you're further interested, just PM me or drop a message in here ;)
Ze, What's your religion in your passport??
 

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ReBeL

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Zé Tahir said:
It says:

"Religion: Ahmadi"

I can never do hajj with that passport :cry: Insh'Allah they'll realize how stupid it is to officially question ones religion :disagree:
Ok, Ze, but if the Waited Mahdi has come and died before 100 years, don't you think that the end of the world is so close??
 

Zé Tahir

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ReBeL said:
Ok, Ze, but if the Waited Mahdi has come and died before 100 years, don't you think that the end of the world is so close??
It is close. According to the Qur'an, the Mahdi would come in the last days. There are signs mentioned, like the eclipse, earthquakes, major wars, signs related to societies, etc. And all these are not just any earhquakes, or any war, but major wars, major earthquakes; increasing in number etc. We've all witnessed this in the last century and still are today. All those are the signs supporting the advent of the Mahdi and the Last Days.
 

Il Re

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Jan 13, 2005
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Zé Tahir said:
It is close. According to the Qur'an, the Mahdi would come in the last days. There are signs mentioned, like the eclipse, earthquakes, major wars, signs related to societies, etc. And all these are not just any earhquakes, or any war, but major wars, major earthquakes; increasing in number etc. We've all witnessed this in the last century and still are today. All those are the signs supporting the advent of the Mahdi and the Last Days.
just curious, but isn't all this in the hadith of the prophet (muhammad pbuh) anyway? i've heard about all these signs before, and is prophet muhammad the most importnat prophet to u guys or mahdi?
 

Zé Tahir

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Il Re said:
just curious, but isn't all this in the hadith of the prophet (muhammad pbuh) anyway? i've heard about all these signs before, and is prophet muhammad the most importnat prophet to u guys or mahdi?
Yea, the signs are in the Qur'an and Hadith. I'm not sure what you mean :confused: And absolutely not, Prophet Muhammad (saw) is the most important prophet. The Promised Messiah is the same person who everyone's still waiting for, just we claim that he's already here. He hasn't brought a new law, so nothing's changed in the teachings of Prophet Muhammad (saw).
 

GordoDeCentral

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Zé Tahir said:
Yea, the signs are in the Qur'an and Hadith. I'm not sure what you mean :confused: And absolutely not, Prophet Muhammad (saw) is the most important prophet. The Promised Messiah is the same person who everyone's still waiting for, just we claim that he's already here. He hasn't brought a new law, so nothing's changed in the teachings of Prophet Muhammad (saw).

is the term qadyani offensive?
 

Il Re

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Zé Tahir said:
Yea, the signs are in the Qur'an and Hadith. I'm not sure what you mean :confused: And absolutely not, Prophet Muhammad (saw) is the most important prophet. The Promised Messiah is the same person who everyone's still waiting for, just we claim that he's already here. He hasn't brought a new law, so nothing's changed in the teachings of Prophet Muhammad (saw).
ahh i see, yea i was a bit confused there, i thought that mahdi was more important to you guys and brought new teaching or something (as you can see i dont really know much about this sect), thanks for clearing that up
 

.zero

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CauldronWench said:
He looks a little like Shrek. Maybe they're related.

Any of you Hindus fasting for Navratri?

no fasting but still celebrating:toast:

muslims i have a question, there is a large population of ismailis here and alot of them are good friends of mine. on thing that they tell me is that they are not considered to be real muslims in the eyes of other musims. is this true? i know that many ismailis used to be hindus is this why?
 

ReBeL

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bianco neri said:
no fasting but still celebrating:toast:

muslims i have a question, there is a large population of ismailis here and alot of them are good friends of mine. on thing that they tell me is that they are not considered to be real muslims in the eyes of other musims. is this true? i know that many ismailis used to be hindus is this why?
The Ismailis are a very close group to the Shi'a sect...

The main difference between them is that Ismailis say that Ismail was the worthy imam, not Musa Al-Kadhim...

But they're not hindus, according to my knowledge...

Altair, are you Sufi??
 

Cronios

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Jun 7, 2004
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Zé Tahir said:
His name was Mirza Ghulam Ahmad, he was born in Qadiyan, India in 1835 and passed away in 1908.

Here's a over-all reading about him and the Ahmadiyya sect:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mirza_Ghulam_Ahmad

It looks accurate, except I'm not sure about the last sentence.

If you're further interested, just PM me or drop a message in here ;)
An interesting read. this thread is!!

I found this:

"Ahmad countered this by claiming that Jesus was dead, and had in fact escaped crucifixion and died in India"

very interesting!!

tell me more about Kashmir and Srinager, is He really burried there?
Whats your personal opinion and knoweldge for the matter?
 

GordoDeCentral

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ReBeL said:
The Ismailis are a very close group to the Shi'a sect...

The main difference between them is that Ismailis say that Ismail was the worthy imam, not Musa Al-Kadhim...

But they're not hindus, according to my knowledge...

Altair, are you Sufi??

no though i am intrigued by ascetics in general
 

Zé Tahir

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Altair said:
is the term qadyani offensive?
Qadiyani just means someone from Qadiyan, India. But today it's used as an insult.

Il Re said:
ahh i see, yea i was a bit confused there, i thought that mahdi was more important to you guys and brought new teaching or something (as you can see i dont really know much about this sect), thanks for clearing that up
No prob. It's a common mistake since every mullah likes to tell people that.

Cronios said:
An interesting read. this thread is!!

I found this:

"Ahmad countered this by claiming that Jesus was dead, and had in fact escaped crucifixion and died in India"

very interesting!!

tell me more about Kashmir and Srinager, is He really burried there?
Whats your personal opinion and knoweldge for the matter?
There are several historical sources that support the fact that he journeyed to Kashmir. Not to mention its also supported in the Bible and the Qur'an. So many times people have come to take DNA tests, but they are not allowed because that would destroy the whole Son of God theory and therefore the entire bases of modern Christianity.

I got more reading for you :D

http://www.tombofjesus.com/news/FAQ/index.htm

And here are some pics

http://www.tombofjesus.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=9
 

.zero

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Zé Tahir said:
There are several historical sources that support the fact that he journeyed to Kashmir. Not to mention its also supported in the Bible and the Qur'an. So many times people have come to take DNA tests, but they are not allowed because that would destroy the whole Son of God theory and therefore the entire bases of modern Christianity.

I got more reading for you :D

http://www.tombofjesus.com/news/FAQ/index.htm

intriguing...
do you have anymore sites or scripts to reference? i really want to read up on this.
 

Cronios

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Jun 7, 2004
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Zé Tahir said:
Qadiyani just means someone from Qadiyan, India. But today it's used as an insult.



No prob. It's a common mistake since every mullah likes to tell people that.



There are several historical sources that support the fact that he journeyed to Kashmir. Not to mention its also supported in the Bible and the Qur'an. So many times people have come to take DNA tests, but they are not allowed because that would destroy the whole Son of God theory and therefore the entire bases of modern Christianity.

I got more reading for you :D

http://www.tombofjesus.com/news/FAQ/index.htm

And here are some pics

http://www.tombofjesus.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=9


Thanx Ze:pint:

Ill check it out and come back with more questions later:D
 

Zé Tahir

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