Il disastro di Torino (13 Viewers)

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Salvo

J
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Dec 17, 2007
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can i sincerely say fuck diego? he fucking smiled and tried to cover that smile. I really don't know the reason, maybe because ciro will leave and we know that those 2 didn't get so well along. But if his ass is moving in the winter i'm gonna hate his guts more than ronaldo's.

firstly dude i didnt see the man smiling, secondly he is a football other players smiling when they lose as well. seriously.

You can always beat Real, i'll give you that :D
better than nothin :D
 

Esteban

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Mar 6, 2005
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The only reason we lost in my opinion is because we took Del boy off for Poulsen. That seriously just ended everything and as soon as Ferrera actually did it, I knew we were going to lose
Yeah, things were looking sweet first half when Bayern only won the corner statistics 8-0 and shots 12-2.
 

Alen

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Apr 2, 2007
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im not to sure about that alen its not like we cant beat anyone anymore because we are an italian team.
It's not about being Italian club. It's about stubbornly sticking with the football that worked for Italian teams in Europe once upon a time, but doesn't work anymore even against average European teams. The defensive minded football, the static football, that some prefer to call tactical football. The football that is adored in Italy and considered to be their contribution to football.

There are even Italian coaches who don't prefer such football and coincidently, or not, they are doing better in Europe than their colleagues from their home country.
 
Mar 10, 2009
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Nope.
It's just that Inter are an Italian team that also can't keep up with the new ideas in football and are playing the same old-fashioned football.

Even with the same "attitude, unity and desire" that we showed against Inter, we'd have surely lost tonight.

I think your forgetting la liga and the EPL also lost a rep.

The main problem is that serie A lack some quality coaches.

seriously ferrera and leo ? There both inexperienced.
We have no determination and lack of heart. Look at what Prandeli did with a fiorentina side that is not half as good as ours.

good manager = good progress

ps

before anyone starts mourinho is overrated
 

juvechampions

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Feb 27, 2006
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What is very important is speed in football today.Look at MU, barca, and other big clubs.The football in italy now lack of movement , pace and PLAYERS when in the past the league had the best.What we need is players with pace to run 90 minutes up down and don't let the opponents to breath.Put the old one we have out , and give the new on a chance, but with a serious and modern style coach.
 

Momme

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Oct 19, 2005
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The ones saying we shouldn't play/keep Del Piero, Cannavaro, Camoranesi.

The last two has been some of our best players this season, it cant be denied and Del Piero was aswell last season.

Our players are not the problem, its the coach, the board and our hierarchy.
Ferrara hasnt got a plan or idea how to play and isn't good enough in terms off tactics and motivating. I also think we have a hierarchy problem, as nonfit (atm) players like Del Piero, Buffon and Melo gets to play, when we have good inform players as Giovinco, Poulsen and Manninger at the bench. It all causes a lack of motivation at the field and in training, to see someone get a spot in the first 11 even without being ready or without figting for it..
 

Ken

The Dutch Touch
Aug 17, 2007
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The only reason we lost in my opinion is because we took Del boy off for Poulsen. That seriously just ended everything and as soon as Ferrera actually did it, I knew we were going to lose
Only then you realised we were going to lose? :p

I knew as soon as I saw 5 or 6 Bayern players storming at 3 or 4 Juve defenders, and our midfield watched them nearly get raped, without a care in the fucking world. From the start it was obvious it was never going to work out for us playing like that.

Things were nasty, but we can only be glad they had some very average players in some positions, like Pranjic on the left instead of Ribéry. Any 'bigger' team than Bayern with a few more talented players would've had a 0-3 / 0-4 lead by HT.

I simply cannot believe what I saw tonight. What the fuck's just happened?!
 

Eddy

The Maestro
Aug 20, 2005
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no we lost because del piero actually started and poulsen didnt
I don't think so. Anyways, Giovinco should have started in a match like this as well, we all know how easy it is to counter-attack a 4-4-2 and his speed would have come in handy.
 

Salvo

J
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Dec 17, 2007
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It's not about being Italian club. It's about stubbornly sticking with the football that worked for Italian teams in Europe once upon a time, but doesn't work anymore even against average European teams. The defensive minded football, the static football, that some prefer to call tactical football. The football that is adored in Italy and considered to be their contribution to football.

There are even Italian coaches who don't prefer such football and coincidently, or not, they are doing better in Europe than their colleagues from their home country.
i completely agree with that, all im saying is with a different mind set we couldve bet bayern.
 

blondu

Grazie Ale
Nov 9, 2006
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I think we lost because of the halftime substitution. Bringing on Poulsen meant we wouldn't score again. That was the major mistake.
i think we lost when caceres lost his mind and tackled olic in that way. At that 1-1 and the pressure after, i kinda felt that it is over. We all knew that ciro ain't that coach that will bring a fresh new juve after the half time.
 
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