Il Capitano Alessandro Del Piero (314 Viewers)
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We do have a problem…
I wish that DP didn’t score yesterday.
Cause it just make our problem worse…
Before you all eat me alive here me out…
I do love DP for who he is and what he has done, so just listen.
Yesterday against Ascoli he did score 2 goals.
One penalty and one free kick. Other than that he did not do almost anything right.
Right now DP is a problem for us, cause he is not contributing with qualities on the pitch.
With him we loose paste, we loose the opportunity to play with a target player, we loose the ability with more space for the other players cause DP is not attracting as much attention from defense.
So we will not play with him in ANY game where we opposing a strong opponent ore playing a really important game. Trust me on this one…
So with DP on the bench we do…
1. Loose money, but that’s the smallest problem we have.
2. Start a conflict with in the team. You want play as good when you lack harmony in the squad.
3. Waste a player that deserves better…
This will increase especially now when he scored two goals.
We do have to sell him or play him…
If we play him we want win the big titles so then we just have one option…
I wish that DP didn’t score yesterday.
Cause it just make our problem worse…
Before you all eat me alive here me out…
I do love DP for who he is and what he has done, so just listen.
Yesterday against Ascoli he did score 2 goals.
One penalty and one free kick. Other than that he did not do almost anything right.
Right now DP is a problem for us, cause he is not contributing with qualities on the pitch.
With him we loose paste, we loose the opportunity to play with a target player, we loose the ability with more space for the other players cause DP is not attracting as much attention from defense.
So we will not play with him in ANY game where we opposing a strong opponent ore playing a really important game. Trust me on this one…
So with DP on the bench we do…
1. Loose money, but that’s the smallest problem we have.
2. Start a conflict with in the team. You want play as good when you lack harmony in the squad.
3. Waste a player that deserves better…
This will increase especially now when he scored two goals.
We do have to sell him or play him…
If we play him we want win the big titles so then we just have one option…
++ [ originally posted by Sonjia_DP ] ++
So, your conclusion is that DP is our disaster and once he steps on the field, he will let the whole team down ?
So, your conclusion is that DP is our disaster and once he steps on the field, he will let the whole team down ?
But since we have a starting 11 where DP does not take place…
Do you want him on the bench for the whole season?
Look at Baggio for example. He continued to be a star after his Juve-era.
Your arguments don't make sense. You say that Del Piero didn't contribute to the team yesterday because he scored 'only' a penalty and a free kick. Correct me if I'm wrong, but in my calculations we won the match because of him. You also say that he is disturbing the squad by sitting on the bench, I think that there will be chaos with the fans and some players like Pessotto if Del Piero leaves.
Just as he did last season, DP played a good match just after he was heavily critisised. Maybe we should batter him even more
Just as he did last season, DP played a good match just after he was heavily critisised. Maybe we should batter him even more
I did not say he did not contribute. I did say thou that he didn’t have a good game.
If you don’t have harmony with in the team you will NOT get the best out of the team!
That’s just a fact. With this schism about DP you will never get the peace and quite surroundings you need.
As far as Pessotto I really do not care, neither does anyone else…
The fans are always screaming about changes. But you still need to make them…
If it was up to the fans to run the club we would be in Serie C today…
?????
He did NOT play a good game.
But I thank him sincerely for the two goals that was game winning.
If you don’t have harmony with in the team you will NOT get the best out of the team!
That’s just a fact. With this schism about DP you will never get the peace and quite surroundings you need.
As far as Pessotto I really do not care, neither does anyone else…
The fans are always screaming about changes. But you still need to make them…
If it was up to the fans to run the club we would be in Serie C today…
++ [ originally posted by Mr. Gol ] ++
Just as he did last season, DP played a good match just after he was heavily critisised. Maybe we should batter him even more
Just as he did last season, DP played a good match just after he was heavily critisised. Maybe we should batter him even more
He did NOT play a good game.
But I thank him sincerely for the two goals that was game winning.
All of your three points are utter crap, why do you have to post something as stupid as that.
1. Nope, Juve makes more money because of Del Piero, just check out the figures yourself.
2. Start a conflict? What the hell are you talking about, Del Piero is the captain of Juventus, a real professional with incredible mental strength. I doubt that many players have the same edge as he does. The guy comes back time after time, and still gets crap like this when he doesn't deserve it. Pinturicchio is perfect example for any player. Also think that Del Piero would leave Juventus. Now THAT would start a conflict, if you ask why, you simply don't know anything about Juventus and the culture itself.
3. So what is better than Juventus then? What is better than being the captain of the team that you love and they love you back?
What the hell is wrong with you people? Any team in the world would be happy to have a pure professional like Del Piero on their team, on the bench or not. Yes, sometimes he hasn't contributed as much as his potential would demand, but he's still the player that has won the most trophies in the history of Juve along with few other. Not to mention that he'll soon become the top scorer of alltime and that he really is the symbol of Juve. A little respect for him would be appreciated.
1. Nope, Juve makes more money because of Del Piero, just check out the figures yourself.
2. Start a conflict? What the hell are you talking about, Del Piero is the captain of Juventus, a real professional with incredible mental strength. I doubt that many players have the same edge as he does. The guy comes back time after time, and still gets crap like this when he doesn't deserve it. Pinturicchio is perfect example for any player. Also think that Del Piero would leave Juventus. Now THAT would start a conflict, if you ask why, you simply don't know anything about Juventus and the culture itself.
3. So what is better than Juventus then? What is better than being the captain of the team that you love and they love you back?
What the hell is wrong with you people? Any team in the world would be happy to have a pure professional like Del Piero on their team, on the bench or not. Yes, sometimes he hasn't contributed as much as his potential would demand, but he's still the player that has won the most trophies in the history of Juve along with few other. Not to mention that he'll soon become the top scorer of alltime and that he really is the symbol of Juve. A little respect for him would be appreciated.
after the 2'nd goal he made a good game,he gave ibra a goal pass and made other good things,that's why he was'nt subtituted,becouse capello saw that he played better after he scored
my problem is that ibra took DP place in the team and doesnt score,he is only the most spectacular player in the world,after ronaldinho,
so hell no,we cannot sell DP,it would be wrong I'd rather sell ibra,juve can get a fortune for him ,
I was happy that DP scored and made a good second half,I just want him to be nr 1 goalscorer in history, and if he can play until 35 at juve ,after that he can retire or go somewhere else,not now
my problem is that ibra took DP place in the team and doesnt score,he is only the most spectacular player in the world,after ronaldinho,
so hell no,we cannot sell DP,it would be wrong I'd rather sell ibra,juve can get a fortune for him ,
I was happy that DP scored and made a good second half,I just want him to be nr 1 goalscorer in history, and if he can play until 35 at juve ,after that he can retire or go somewhere else,not now
This is a questione of marketing. My field.
So if we sell “DP-related” stuff in the souvenir shops for lets say 10 million euro you truly believe that we make a 3 million profit after we paid for DP salary? (and taxes)
That’s just ignorant.
If he left the squad the fans would by other players jerseys and so on… Not for as much money maybe but we would make better profit.
Do you surely think you have better insight than the Agnelli family?
I am not saying that DP is creating conflict.
Is this a serious question or are you just plain stupid?
If you have a star outside the starting 11 it creates disharmony!
Then the players doesn’t feel secure in there roles.
Take a degree in psychology.
Your talking as if DP is Juve? Then asks me if I know anything about the history???
How long do you want him in the team? Until he’s 55?
What is better than beeing tha captain of the team... Are you DP?
I´m always considering the best for Juve, are you?
See... You´re talking history...
So if we sell “DP-related” stuff in the souvenir shops for lets say 10 million euro you truly believe that we make a 3 million profit after we paid for DP salary? (and taxes)
That’s just ignorant.
If he left the squad the fans would by other players jerseys and so on… Not for as much money maybe but we would make better profit.
Do you surely think you have better insight than the Agnelli family?
I am not saying that DP is creating conflict.
Is this a serious question or are you just plain stupid?
If you have a star outside the starting 11 it creates disharmony!
Then the players doesn’t feel secure in there roles.
Take a degree in psychology.
Your talking as if DP is Juve? Then asks me if I know anything about the history???
How long do you want him in the team? Until he’s 55?
What is better than beeing tha captain of the team... Are you DP?
I´m always considering the best for Juve, are you?
See... You´re talking history...
Oh FFS, you honestly believe in what Elkann supposedly said. If he left we would sell more jerseys etc.? What the hell is that supposed to mean, you think that leaving Del Piero out would sell more of Thuram jerseys? Yeah, right. That's crap and you know it. Not to mention that you really can't compare Lapo Elkann to Agnelli brothers, it's a disgrace. You can blame the triade and other stuff of lots of things, but they've done their business great, no one can deny that. I trust them more than I do trust in you.
Just try to sell Del Piero, let's see how the team reacts when they've got even less people and most importantly sound in Delle Alpi. What do you think that the hardcore, the people that you obviously know nothing of, would do if DP was sold?
Disharmony. Yes, Del Piero is a real troublemaker. I wonder how Milan can handle their squad since they've got players like Vieri, Pippo and Jankulovski on the bench. Not to mention the other big clubs... Surely they are ruined since the players don't feel secure.
Take a hike.
Rotation and competition within squad is only healthy, as long as it isn't too difficult, which it isn't at Juve since they have relatively small squad. You want to play the whole season with 11 men? Take a degree in psychology, not to mention the physical state of the players...
I'm absolutely confident that I know a hell lot more about Juve than you do. I want him to be in the team as long as he contributes, which he still does. He'll retire in few years anyway, and he certainly deserves to hang his boots with Juve.
Yes, I'm considering the best for Juve, you aren't if you claim that Del Piero should leave. Yes, I agree that he probably shouldn't start in most of the games, but since the season is long rotation players are needed, Zlatan can't play all the time. Besides, Del Piero is an idol and friend of those players, he's the symbol of the club and you still want him out? What exactly has he done wrong to deserve such crap?
Just try to sell Del Piero, let's see how the team reacts when they've got even less people and most importantly sound in Delle Alpi. What do you think that the hardcore, the people that you obviously know nothing of, would do if DP was sold?
Disharmony. Yes, Del Piero is a real troublemaker. I wonder how Milan can handle their squad since they've got players like Vieri, Pippo and Jankulovski on the bench. Not to mention the other big clubs... Surely they are ruined since the players don't feel secure.
Take a hike.Rotation and competition within squad is only healthy, as long as it isn't too difficult, which it isn't at Juve since they have relatively small squad. You want to play the whole season with 11 men? Take a degree in psychology, not to mention the physical state of the players...
I'm absolutely confident that I know a hell lot more about Juve than you do. I want him to be in the team as long as he contributes, which he still does. He'll retire in few years anyway, and he certainly deserves to hang his boots with Juve.
Yes, I'm considering the best for Juve, you aren't if you claim that Del Piero should leave. Yes, I agree that he probably shouldn't start in most of the games, but since the season is long rotation players are needed, Zlatan can't play all the time. Besides, Del Piero is an idol and friend of those players, he's the symbol of the club and you still want him out? What exactly has he done wrong to deserve such crap?
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I give you the first point just cause the thing about Elkann.
The other question you’re wrong about.
Sure we sell more DP-shirts than the others. But If you have a fan buying a sweater to support juv he is going to buy a Juve-shirt. Maybe not with Thuram at the back thou…
The ones we miss will be those who just want a DP-shirt and not a Juve…
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After we win away against Chelsea they will be satisfied.
All it takes is great games and trophies
Less people in Delle Alpi? Your kidding?
Hardcore…? The day when I see families at Delle Alpi you could start talking about hardcore.
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The question is not whether DP is a troublemaker or not. (Witch he´s not)
The question is if you want DP on the bench as a sub? He is not the sub-striker type…
Vieri- Never been a symbol And he knows he’s on his way down.
Pippo- Typical sub. A real striker. He knows he is the 4 man.
Jankulovski- With a defense with Nesta, Maldini and Stam he knew what was coming…
Take a hike? *laugh*
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Agree that rotation is a key.
I just disagree with DP as a sub.
Still 2-2
Maybe you’re right. Maybe not…
I´m 32 years old and saw my first Juve game at the age of 6 against Como at Stadio Vecchio Comunale…
And to compete our knowledge in football is not an easy task.
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I want him out for his and Juve´s sake!
He deserves more than being a sub. Then he´s not a very good sub either. He should play 90 minutes games.
Symbol of the club? And those symbols lasts forever?
Get a new symbol. Every great player quits.
There are some examples of players becoming greater than the team…
Look at Napoli today.
I give you the first point just cause the thing about Elkann.
The other question you’re wrong about.
Sure we sell more DP-shirts than the others. But If you have a fan buying a sweater to support juv he is going to buy a Juve-shirt. Maybe not with Thuram at the back thou…
The ones we miss will be those who just want a DP-shirt and not a Juve…
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After we win away against Chelsea they will be satisfied.
All it takes is great games and trophies
Less people in Delle Alpi? Your kidding?
Hardcore…? The day when I see families at Delle Alpi you could start talking about hardcore.
++ [ originally posted by Erkka ] ++
Disharmony. Yes, Del Piero is a real troublemaker. I wonder how Milan can handle their squad since they've got players like Vieri, Pippo and Jankulovski on the bench. Not to mention the other big clubs... Surely they are ruined since the players don't feel secure. Take a hike.
Disharmony. Yes, Del Piero is a real troublemaker. I wonder how Milan can handle their squad since they've got players like Vieri, Pippo and Jankulovski on the bench. Not to mention the other big clubs... Surely they are ruined since the players don't feel secure.
Take a hike.
The question is not whether DP is a troublemaker or not. (Witch he´s not)
The question is if you want DP on the bench as a sub? He is not the sub-striker type…
Vieri- Never been a symbol And he knows he’s on his way down.
Pippo- Typical sub. A real striker. He knows he is the 4 man.
Jankulovski- With a defense with Nesta, Maldini and Stam he knew what was coming…
Take a hike? *laugh*
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Agree that rotation is a key.
I just disagree with DP as a sub.
Still 2-2
Maybe you’re right. Maybe not…
I´m 32 years old and saw my first Juve game at the age of 6 against Como at Stadio Vecchio Comunale…
And to compete our knowledge in football is not an easy task.
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I want him out for his and Juve´s sake!
He deserves more than being a sub. Then he´s not a very good sub either. He should play 90 minutes games.
Symbol of the club? And those symbols lasts forever?
Get a new symbol. Every great player quits.
There are some examples of players becoming greater than the team…
Look at Napoli today.
I don't believe you at all, you are just too ignorant to recognize or understand the value of a symbol... But hey, I'm satisfied with my point. 0-1.
0-2 for me, since you showed your lack of knowledge about ultras and the audience in Turin. Won't comment any further, since I don't want to be the one to civilize you. Learn yourself if you want to. If you don't want to, then just piss off, I don't care much about that type of "fans"...
Utter crap once again. Everyone wants to play, there's no doubt about that. Del Piero is much more of a professional than Vieri and Pippo combined. You honestly think that I should believe you when you say that he isn't a sub-striker type... Yeah, right, the captain just played his first competitive match within a month and scored two goals... Wow, he's bad, he should have scored at least five and pass at least seven goals. Not to mention last years performances, most notably the game against Milan... And of course the other situations when Trez and/or Zlatan were both unavailable. Remember the autumn when Trez got injured and Zlatan's ban? Remember that he was the one who made the most winning goals in the whole Serie A? I thought so. 0-3 for me.
0-4.
0-5. You showed your ignorance already, check part two of this post.
Don't ever compare Juve to terroni, specially when you dare to call yourself Juve fan. That is already a disgrace. "Get a new symbol", that's just incredibly dumb. Yes, Juve's magnificent societa consists great players all the time, but Del Piero is something special, something that belongs in the same class with Scirea, Conte and Furino. (Next you'll ask what's so special about them?) Del Piero should stay, of course that doesn't mean that Del Piero is bigger than the club, the guy still contributes and earns his place at Juve. Unluckily, Conte didn't in the end and since Crapello arrived, he was gone. I'm still sore with that decision.
0-2 for me, since you showed your lack of knowledge about ultras and the audience in Turin. Won't comment any further, since I don't want to be the one to civilize you. Learn yourself if you want to. If you don't want to, then just piss off, I don't care much about that type of "fans"...
Utter crap once again. Everyone wants to play, there's no doubt about that. Del Piero is much more of a professional than Vieri and Pippo combined. You honestly think that I should believe you when you say that he isn't a sub-striker type... Yeah, right, the captain just played his first competitive match within a month and scored two goals... Wow, he's bad, he should have scored at least five and pass at least seven goals. Not to mention last years performances, most notably the game against Milan... And of course the other situations when Trez and/or Zlatan were both unavailable. Remember the autumn when Trez got injured and Zlatan's ban? Remember that he was the one who made the most winning goals in the whole Serie A? I thought so. 0-3 for me.
0-4.
0-5. You showed your ignorance already, check part two of this post.
Don't ever compare Juve to terroni, specially when you dare to call yourself Juve fan. That is already a disgrace. "Get a new symbol", that's just incredibly dumb. Yes, Juve's magnificent societa consists great players all the time, but Del Piero is something special, something that belongs in the same class with Scirea, Conte and Furino. (Next you'll ask what's so special about them?
) Del Piero should stay, of course that doesn't mean that Del Piero is bigger than the club, the guy still contributes and earns his place at Juve. Unluckily, Conte didn't in the end and since Crapello arrived, he was gone. I'm still sore with that decision.
++ [ originally posted by Erkka ] ++
I don't believe you at all, you are just too ignorant to recognize or understand the value of a symbol... But hey, I'm satisfied with my point. 0-1.
0-2 for me, since you showed your lack of knowledge about ultras and the audience in Turin. Won't comment any further, since I don't want to be the one to civilize you. Learn yourself if you want to. If you don't want to, then just piss off, I don't care much about that type of "fans"...
Utter crap once again. Everyone wants to play, there's no doubt about that. Del Piero is much more of a professional than Vieri and Pippo combined. You honestly think that I should believe you when you say that he isn't a sub-striker type... Yeah, right, the captain just played his first competitive match within a month and scored two goals... Wow, he's bad, he should have scored at least five and pass at least seven goals. Not to mention last years performances, most notably the game against Milan... And of course the other situations when Trez and/or Zlatan were both unavailable. Remember the autumn when Trez got injured and Zlatan's ban? Remember that he was the one who made the most winning goals in the whole Serie A? I thought so. 0-3 for me.
0-4.
0-5. You showed your ignorance already, check part two of this post.
Don't ever compare Juve to terroni, specially when you dare to call yourself Juve fan. That is already a disgrace. "Get a new symbol", that's just incredibly dumb. Yes, Juve's magnificent societa consists great players all the time, but Del Piero is something special, something that belongs in the same class with Scirea, Conte and Furino. (Next you'll ask what's so special about them?) Del Piero should stay, of course that doesn't mean that Del Piero is bigger than the club, the guy still contributes and earns his place at Juve. Unluckily, Conte didn't in the end and since Crapello arrived, he was gone. I'm still sore with that decision.
I don't believe you at all, you are just too ignorant to recognize or understand the value of a symbol... But hey, I'm satisfied with my point. 0-1.
0-2 for me, since you showed your lack of knowledge about ultras and the audience in Turin. Won't comment any further, since I don't want to be the one to civilize you. Learn yourself if you want to. If you don't want to, then just piss off, I don't care much about that type of "fans"...
Utter crap once again. Everyone wants to play, there's no doubt about that. Del Piero is much more of a professional than Vieri and Pippo combined. You honestly think that I should believe you when you say that he isn't a sub-striker type... Yeah, right, the captain just played his first competitive match within a month and scored two goals... Wow, he's bad, he should have scored at least five and pass at least seven goals. Not to mention last years performances, most notably the game against Milan... And of course the other situations when Trez and/or Zlatan were both unavailable. Remember the autumn when Trez got injured and Zlatan's ban? Remember that he was the one who made the most winning goals in the whole Serie A? I thought so. 0-3 for me.
0-4.
0-5. You showed your ignorance already, check part two of this post.
Don't ever compare Juve to terroni, specially when you dare to call yourself Juve fan. That is already a disgrace. "Get a new symbol", that's just incredibly dumb. Yes, Juve's magnificent societa consists great players all the time, but Del Piero is something special, something that belongs in the same class with Scirea, Conte and Furino. (Next you'll ask what's so special about them?
) Del Piero should stay, of course that doesn't mean that Del Piero is bigger than the club, the guy still contributes and earns his place at Juve. Unluckily, Conte didn't in the end and since Crapello arrived, he was gone. I'm still sore with that decision.
Never though I would get bashed for my opinions like that.
But hey.., It just takes someone who has another opinion than you to make you call them ignorant.
When I give you points and try to talk about this subjectively you wont satisfy with the finger, you take the whole hand.
And you are talking about Scirea, Conte and Furino??? Do you want them at the pitch today as well?
Then you remark about the Ultras. Here´s where you really lost it.
The Ultras are the ones destroying the “calcio”. The sport belongs to the children. To the families. To the elderly discussing the games at the corner bar. You in the Ultras has stolen the football. In belief that you are so important.
Well you know what?
Fûck off!
Build a stadium in your backyard to terrorise. But leave our stadium to the people.
Hell no, but people saw Scirea, Furino and Ferrara etc. ending their careers like legends should, wearing the shirt that they loved on the front of the crowd that worshipped them. That's the way it should be.
I'm not an ultra. But your text really is hilarious and very very prejudiced. I don't want the stadiums be full of women and children, that would definitely kill the whole atmosphere, the whole point of going to the game at all, but that's not the subject in this topic. If you sincerely want to lighten yourself and know more about their culture, pm me and I'll give you something pretty interesting to read and recommend some good literature.
Honestly, get a hold of yourself.
First you misspelled calcio and then my name...
I'm not an ultra. But your text really is hilarious and very very prejudiced. I don't want the stadiums be full of women and children, that would definitely kill the whole atmosphere, the whole point of going to the game at all, but that's not the subject in this topic. If you sincerely want to lighten yourself and know more about their culture, pm me and I'll give you something pretty interesting to read and recommend some good literature.
Honestly, get a hold of yourself.
First you misspelled calcio and then my name...
