Il Capitano Alessandro Del Piero (83 Viewers)

[giovanotti]

++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++



Why do you give DP credit for this move, but you refuse to give Zlatan the credit for the goal against Bayern, instead again you give the credit for Del Piero.

Not only for one goal against Bayern, ibrahim made 2 assists against Bayern,secondone was for Nedved.
I'm not in the position to make the favourisaton of any player, I just think that some people on the thread overvalue ibrahim and undervalue Del Piero for no reason.

Like I said there are 2 main streams here

one for ibrahim-----------------secondone for Del Piero.

If you are asking me which one I support that will always be DEL PIERO's one.

 

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[giovanotti]

++ [ originally posted by azzurri7 ] ++


don't waste your time with him. Anyhow well Said amigo

I'm satisfied that leastwise one person share my opinion.That shows that I'm not the lonelyone who is giving the full credits to our captain.

 

[JCK]

++ [ originally posted by giovanotti ] ++


Not only for one goal against Bayern, ibrahim made 2 assists against Bayern,secondone was for Nedved.
I'm not in the position to make the favourisaton of any player, I just think that some people on the thread overvalue ibrahim and undervalue Del Piero for no reason.

Like I said there are 2 main streams here

one for ibrahim-----------------secondone for Del Piero.

If you are asking me which one I support that will always be DEL PIERO's one.

Saying that Zlatan is playing better than Del Piero does not mean one is overvaluing nor undervaluing anyone.

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

++ [ originally posted by jussiut ] ++
You should never change your sig Don Bes. It's unbelievably hilarious in its irony.

you think. as much as non-argumentative that the people who do not see the future of juventus with del piero it doesnt even come close to the other group's hypocrisy. if you dont know what hypocrisy means is "doing the same thing, expecting different results" make a connection laughing boy ?

 

[olkiller]

++ [ originally posted by swag ] ++


And Lippi lacked what Capello has: a backbone when it came to standing up to temperamental players who might have been thinking a little more about themselves -- when they should have thought more about the best interests of the entire team.

What you're saying is simply stupid. Across the Peninsula, Del Piero has been hailed for his great elegance when he chose not to create polemics during the season. As a real captain, he thought about the team first. Del Piero is the least temperamental player there is at Juve. Sure, asking for guarantees in a bit vain, but Del Piero has remained silent and Calm. Buffon said in a Gazzetta Dello Sport "Del Piero must receive a medal for his class on and off the pitch. He has abslolutely great self-control. I really don't know what I'd have done if I were in his shoes".
Del Piero has been subbed time & time again, even when he was playing very well (Livorno, Parma), so please think before you write such stupid things.
Lippi "favoured" Del Piero because he wanted to, because Del Piero was essential to the team. When he was at Inter, he benched Baggio, at Juve it was Davids, so don't say Lippi had less balls than Cap. Lippi considers Del Piero as HIS pupil and knows him better than Capello.
Let me remind you that Del Piero has been a key player in this 28th Scudetto so stop saying Capello had the backbone to sub a player who didn't deserve to feature. Period.

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

of course del piero has been a key player, the same way Buffon, Canavaro, Thuram, Zambrota, Emerson, Camoranesi, nedved (te a certain excent) Zlatan, Zalayeta and Trezeguet (to a certain excet).

now thing which one of this players do we have subs that are as or maybe more influential. del piero has been subed not because his name is del piero, he might have been subed because the team would like to send a message that juve is ready to move on past him but in no way del piero was subed just because capello liked.

 

[giovanotti]

++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++



Saying that Zlatan is playing better than Del Piero does not mean one is overvaluing nor undervaluing anyone.

But that is not true, ibrahim didn't play better than Del Piero,ofcourse that's just my opinion.
Capello benched Del Piero all the time,I admit that many times Del Piro didn't play like he used to, but even when ibrahim didn't play well too,Capello was taking Del Piero out of the game...I mean that's not right.

 

[delp_07]

Whoa guys did you just see that Del PIero was not called for the Norway game. Man that realli pissed me off, i dont think there is one person in this forum who can argue that he doesnt deserve to go. Del Piero in my opinion lately has been playing far superior to Cassano and Cassano gets the nod ahead of him. Lippi didnt even call Lucarelli and Totti which is also mind boggling. Well anyways maybe he will be called for the mini tour is north america than.

 

[Stu]

Yeah, I just saw the squad and find that quite interesting. Even Del Piero's harshest critics have to admit that he has played very well in his last three matches (Milan, Parma, Cagliari). Opting for Vieri and ignoring Lucarelli's tally of Serie A goals this season is also a curious decision.

 

[giovanotti]

I don't understand why Lippi called up vieri who is miserable.

 

[Azzurri7]

Weird, Tv says because Juve needs him to be available for the fans, so they can get some cash, But I'd prefer to see him with his NT. weird Decision Lippi.

 

[dee dee]

dp wont go unless we have a good offer cash wise. 10 million pounds will be beautiful for a player like him though no club will pay that much for a dp of today's quality.

am not sure if cassano is a good fit for juve though we sure need players with the creative touch. in fact we may not need a forward even they manage to get rid of dp.

we do need midfielders who can orchestrate plays with nedved on his lat legs too. ruben olivera and oliver kapo are good, but we need more. likewise, we need a defensive lynchpin with thuram and cannavaro in their early 30s already. do think thats why juve's transfer funds (excluding those to be exchanged) will go to, and hopefully we can get some money from the sale of dp to add to that. lets pray for that

 

[JCK]

++ [ originally posted by giovanotti ] ++


But that is not true, ibrahim didn't play better than Del Piero,ofcourse that's just my opinion.
Capello benched Del Piero all the time,I admit that many times Del Piro didn't play like he used to, but even when ibrahim didn't play well too,Capello was taking Del Piero out of the game...I mean that's not right.

I will not argue with you on who played better because we will never end. However, I will explain to you why Del Piero was subbed while Ibrahimovic stayed on the pitch. Let us first be objective and remove all the emotions from the talk and not concider that the coach like one player over the other.

Zlatan has a quality of holding the ball more than Del Piero and considering Capello's tactics, this is needed.
Zlatan has a better physique than Del Piero and is more likely to get fouls and to trouble the defence, again something is needed especially considering our weak midfield.
Del Piero can help the midfield more, but in many cases his contribution is not needed.

 

[Azzurri7]

++ [ originally posted by Jeeks ] ++

Zlatan has a quality of holding the ball more than Del Piero and considering Capello's tactics, this is needed.
Zlatan has a better physique than Del Piero and is more likely to get fouls and to trouble the defence, again something is needed especially considering our weak midfield.
Del Piero can help the midfield more, but in many cases his contribution is not needed.

-I disagree, Zlatan is no way near Del Piero when it comes of holding the ball, Lets Compare them both of them when each one holds the ball,

Zlatan(Likes to dribble atleast 5defenders, when most of the times he fails to pass 2defenders, he may be improving but not too much, Serie A is not like where he was playing)

Del Piero(As soon as he holds the ball, either he tries to pass it to somebody or Cross, and let the game open, and IF he wants to dribble he'll succeed more than Zlatan)

I agree Zlatan has a better physique than the Captain, but Zlatan needs 100 years to get the fouls Dp is getting us, I mean lets face it, when the ball is between Dp's legs either he'll pass the defender or gets the foul!

Eventhough Zlatan has a better physique that shouldn't keep him on the field when he's not playing so well, why Dp should be Sub when Zlatan is not being Sub, Not Fair if you ask me, AT ALL.

Good Point, Del Piero can help the midfield but his contribution is not needed??? Explain me please!

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

its a ****ing investemnt too. i would keep a player with a future more on the pitch if he wasnt a liability

 

[Seven]

Let Del Piero go. The EPL wants him, and clearly a lot of people don't want him playing for Juventus. Perhaps DP could even try to play some football without being constantly talked about.

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

it comes with the fame

 

[Seven]

++ [ originally posted by Don Bes ] ++
it comes with the fame

Hmm, not really, DP has been criticised more than any player on this level. It's a miracle he's still playing IMO. Anyway, perhaps leaving Juventus would be good for him as well.

 

[Lawnchair Bes]

considering that he will not probably get much playing time, it would be better for him to leave.

 

[Seven]

It's not that he wouldn't be useful for Juve anymore, it's just that he isn't all that valuable in Capello's tactics. Tactics that are no good IMO anyway, but who am I to judge?