Il Capitano Alessandro Del Piero (107 Viewers)

Oct 29, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by Monkfish ] ++


Stats do not tell the whole story.

What about this stat - DP has been subbed the most in Serie A this season (or he's in the top 2 - I can't remember). What does that suggest?

It suggests he hasn't played that great.
or that his fitness levels arent high enough to play 90 mins

or that cap has options on the bench which he wants to make use of

or that hes playd well and is being rested for next game

or that indeed he has playd crap


personally i think throughout different points of the season its been a mixture of all 4
 

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olkiller

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Sep 9, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by Monkfish ] ++


Stats do not tell the whole story.

What about this stat - DP has been subbed the most in Serie A this season (or he's in the top 2 - I can't remember). What does that suggest?

It suggests he hasn't played that great.
Actually, if you'd watched Juve games or even read good italian newspapers, what you suggest is completely wrong. Everybody across the peninsula is convinced that Cap has been too harsh with DP. Of course he has not played well at times (like against Milan in Turin), but most of the time, Del Piero's substitution did NOT depend on his display on the pitch. It was systematic.
Against Parma, Del Piero was our best attacking player, yet it was him and non one else who went off for Trez.
Stats do tell most of the story. FFS when he played well in 99/00, and served so many assists many bashed him claming that he was not decisive enough because he just didn''t score much. And now that his goals STATISTICALLY make him the MOST DECISIVE PLAYER IN SERIE A. The rest is details. Period.
 

olkiller

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Sep 9, 2002
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++ [ originally posted by legend delpiero ] ++


or that his fitness levels arent high enough to play 90 mins

or that cap has options on the bench which he wants to make use of

or that hes playd well and is being rested for next game

or that indeed he has playd crap


personally i think throughout different points of the season its been a mixture of all 4
Or that Capello simply doesn't like him and prefers tall, strong players.
 

day walker

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Sep 20, 2004
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Lippi hails new ‘champions’ Friday 20 May, 2005


Marcello Lippi has crowned Juventus as Italian champions even if they are still not mathematically sure of the title.

The Bianconeri need just two points from two games to secure their 28th title, a success that Lippi insists is well deserved.

"Milan paid the price in the title race because of their Champions’ League commitments," the tactician told La Repubblica.

"But you can’t take anything away from Juventus given that they have been at the top of the League all season."

"The secret behind Juve’s success? I would say the performances of Emerson, Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Alex Del Piero.
 

Azzurri7

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Dec 16, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by olkiller ] ++


Well, Alessandro Del Piero did make History, helping Juventus win 5 (6?) Scudetti and win a CL (out of four finals played). It is quite probable that he will become our greatest goal-scorer ever, plus he is an icon, a living myth. He has some qualities the likes of Mutu, Ibrahimovic, Miccoli will never have. He just makes a huge difference. It is the rest that seems pointless to me. Therefore Del Piero is worth waging a (verbal) war for. He has been suffering from some media bias for too long, whereas players like Zidane or Totti are more easily praised, and less often criticized even when they are off form. I am not saying that Del Piero has been great @ every single match he played, but he still remains the most decisive player this season. No one can take that away from him.
If he is transferred to another club, I suggest that you watch the Tiffosi's reaction. Some bloody rampage may well be on the way.
 

Azzurri7

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++ [ originally posted by day walker ] ++
Lippi hails new ‘champions’ Friday 20 May, 2005


Marcello Lippi has crowned Juventus as Italian champions even if they are still not mathematically sure of the title.

The Bianconeri need just two points from two games to secure their 28th title, a success that Lippi insists is well deserved.

"Milan paid the price in the title race because of their Champions’ League commitments," the tactician told La Repubblica.

"But you can’t take anything away from Juventus given that they have been at the top of the League all season."

"The secret behind Juve’s success? I would say the performances of Emerson, Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Alex Del Piero.
Man, these wont help, Don Bes is smarter than the great Lippi.
 

day walker

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Sep 20, 2004
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i don't know how a real juve fans hate del piero
so if anyone said that he is a good player infront of any other club fan they will kill him ??
he give and give and give and what he get !!?? nothin
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by gray ] ++
I can't believe that people are arguing that Mutu is not a talented player. He made a mistake to get himself banned this season, but to say that he did nothing while Del Piero scored 13 goals is a rubbish argument.

Since you asked, Mutu scored more than Alex in 02/03 and was the assist leader in Serie A that season. Sure, we won the title in that season, but that can hardly be solely attributed to Del Piero's contribution. Mutu's contribution to the season earned Parma 5th place in Serie A, which isn't easy to do (as can be seen by this season) even when you have a Gilardino in the team.

I'm not saying that Mutu will brush Alex aside and out of the starting lineup (though it's altogether likely), but to dismiss Mutu because of the past couple of seasons is entirely unfair.
I never argued that Mutu is not a talented player, Gray. Read more carefully next time.
 

gray

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Apr 22, 2003
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maybe I should have said "fvckin awesome player"

without picking on words, there's no denying that you don't particularly rate him...

++ [ originally posted by Seven ] ++
Where was Mutu this season? Oh, that's right he got himself banned. Where was DP? That's right, he scored us 13 goals. What has Mutu ever done? Why are you so sure that Mutu will be better than DP in the future?
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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I think very highly of Mutu, yet he did get himself banned for drug abuse. So why would anyone rate Mutu higher than Del Piero? DP played a good season, scoring 13 goals while Mutu was forced to watch all those games. Why is that Mutu is rated higher than Del Piero, while he has obviously done so much less, this season and in the past?
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by day walker ] ++
Lippi hails new ‘champions’ Friday 20 May, 2005


Marcello Lippi has crowned Juventus as Italian champions even if they are still not mathematically sure of the title.

The Bianconeri need just two points from two games to secure their 28th title, a success that Lippi insists is well deserved.

"Milan paid the price in the title race because of their Champions’ League commitments," the tactician told La Repubblica.

"But you can’t take anything away from Juventus given that they have been at the top of the League all season."

"The secret behind Juve’s success? I would say the performances of Emerson, Zlatan Ibrahimovic and Alex Del Piero .
Pff, Marcello, don't you know Del Piero is overpaid?
 
Jan 7, 2004
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++ [ originally posted by azzurri7 ] ++


Man, these wont help, Don Bes is smarter than the great Lippi.

ya man. opf course i am smarter. what do you expect lippi to say, sorry Kovacevic, miccoli, di viao and friends for screwing your careers but you know he is named del piero and you arent.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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++ [ originally posted by Don Bes ] ++



ya man. opf course i am smarter. what do you expect lippi to say, sorry Kovacevic, miccoli, di viao and friends for screwing your careers but you know he is named del piero and you arent.
:rolleyes:. Kovacevic screwed it himself and so did Miccoli and Di Vaio. At no point in time they were good enough to replace Il Capitano, just admit it Bes. They FAILED.
 

Seven

In bocca al lupo, Fabio.
Jun 25, 2003
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Una stagione di alti e bassi: magie e prove deludenti. Capello lo ha sostituito 28 volte, molti lo davano per finito. Ma la volata scudetto porta la sua firma

MILANO, 20 maggio 2005 - Per i tifosi bianconeri "E' la cosa più bella che c'è", come cantano, sempre e comunque, a prescindere dalla sua prestazione, quando il capitano della Juventus scende in campo. Ma sono stati in tanti, quest'anno, a dubitare di Alessandro Del Piero. Inutile girarci intorno: tanti critici e addetti ai lavori lo consideravano (considerano?) finito. Un buon giocatore, certo, ma non più il campione simbolo dei bianconeri, l'uomo della provvidenza, quello cui aggrapparsi quando serve quel qualcosa in più che solo gli artisti del pallone sanno inventare.
Si è capito fin dall'estate che le cose per il n° 10 erano cambiate: con Capello non era più intoccabile, ma soltanto uno dei tanti. Lui, Alessandro del Piero, cinque scudetti, una coppa Campioni ed un'Intercontinentale conquistati con quella maglia. Bandiera e volto della Vecchia Signora trattato alla stregua (con tutto il rispetto) di un Birindelli qualsiasi. Del resto Ibrahimovic incantava, Trezeguet la metteva sempre dentro, e Capello, più realista del re, non ha fatto sconti: Ale sostituito sistematicamente (alla fine non ha sentito sul campo il triplice fischio finale per ben 28 volte) e qualche volta a sedere in panchina accanto a lui, rimpiazzato non solo da Ibra e Trezegol, ma anche dal "proletario" Zalayeta. Qui del Piero ha vinto il suo scudetto: mai una polemica, anche quando ha perso la Nazionale del "suo" Lippi per l'utilizzo a singhiozzo (e onestamente anche per un rendimento altalenante: splendidi tocchi d'autore, come il tacco al Siena, ma anche qualche gara anonima). Ha stretto i denti e corso ancora più forte, anche quando si parlava di un imminente arrivo di Cassano, anche quando c'era chi faceva il conto alla rovescia della fine della squalifica di Mutu. Niente atteggiamenti isterici comuni a tanti suoi colleghi che hanno incantato e vinto meno della metà di lui, ma che urlano alla lesa maestà per un cambio a 5' dalla fine.
E nella sfida decisiva per il tricolore, a San Siro contro il Milan, con una rovesciata, ha capovolto il corso del destino, decisivo più che mai, sfornando, con un capolavoro atletico e tecnico, l'assist più prezioso che Trezeguet ha trasformato nel gol che ha firmato il campionato. E poi ha messo le olive nel Martini con quella capocciata (non esattamente la specialità della casa) che ha trafitto il Parma la domenica seguente, quella dell'allungo decisivo sul Milan. Si è ripreso la Juve, da capitano l'ha guidata nel momento del bisogno: i gradi glieli ha restituiti il campo, più che la fascia. Così come il posto da titolare, e pazienza se in panchina è finito il cecchino Trezeguet. Ale ha vinto e segnato (portando a 13 reti il suo bottino in campionato) festeggiando con un urlo liberatorio, ma soprattutto con un sorriso smagliante. Campione in campo e fuori, trascinatore anche senza alzare la voce, ma i tifosi bianconeri della curva non si sono certo stupiti: è o no la cosa più bella che c'è?

Just look at how they're praising Del Piero, Bes. Don't you think people writing for la gazzetta know their stuff?
 

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