Il Capitano Alessandro Del Piero (357 Viewers)

[JuveJay]

Why did he not announce it at the beginning of the season? I'm sure he didn't/doesn't intend to leave at the end of this season because if he had, he would have announced it before the season started. He wanted to wait and see what happens. He thought he might find himself good enough to stay one more year, he thought he could get another contract at the end of this season. Agnelli's announcement ruined everything as he sent Ale this message clearly that he can't be a part of this season anymore, no matter what the team and the player's conditions are.

I'm not sure, as we haven't been in the situation where he could possibly leave before, we don't know how he would go about it. If he announced it himself at the beginning of the season, does your last point not still stand? I don't think either scenario impacts on him playing this season.

You just proved my point, you do realize that no?

Do I even have to answer this?

I'm talking in your terms, so of course it follows your point. It's not my opinion that he was forced out or that he dislikes Agnelli, but it is something worth considering.

It was politics that kept AA out the longest time. Now at he's finally gotten here, I think it's more of the same for anybody that challenges his figurehead.

I don't even think DP was asked. He was told, almost humiliatingly, via the press that his time was up. That wasn't a question, it was a diktat.

This is the extreme paranoia, cynical version of events, of course.

Anyway, I'm going to have to go soon, XBL awaits.

I should have taken Melo's advice (probably the last time you'll hear me say that)

 

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[Ahmed]

When you ask someone in a diplomatic way to leave then that's forcing him out softly.

it was basically not expecting him to be around next year.

absolutely shameful of course, but I would not say it is as evil as telling Alex to fuck off.

It was politics that kept AA out the longest time. Now at he's finally gotten here, I think it's more of the same for anybody that challenges his figurehead.

why would Alex be in compeition with him like that?

he's a player, not a powerful board member.

 

[king Ale]

All I think is that Ale deserves to decide on his retirement. It's not about being a part of the first team, that's up to the coach but for his almost 20 years of service to this club, he deserves to be offered a contract every year as long as he wants to stay especially now that he's on such low salaries. It's so pathetic of our club that couldn't see this.

 

[Alen]

if it wasn't AA's decision, then whose was it? Moratti?

Del Piero's.

AA said a couple of days ago how it was Del Piero's decision. When Ale signed the last contract he told AA and the others in Juve that it's gonna be his last contract with Juve. AA fucked up by going public with it.

 

[Azzurri7]

I'm talking in your terms, so of course it follows your point. It's not my opinion that he was forced out or that he dislikes Agnelli, but it is something worth considering.

Ok

Del Piero's.

AA said a couple of days ago how it was Del Piero's decision. When Ale signed the last contract he told AA and the others in Juve that it's gonna be his last contract with Juve. AA fucked up by going public with it.

I don't believe him.

 

[king Ale]

I'm not sure, as we haven't been in the situation where he could possibly leave before, we don't know how he would go about it. If he announced it himself at the beginning of the season, does your last point not still stand? I don't think either scenario impacts on him playing this season.

If he had announced it at the beginning of the season, it would have meant that he had made up his mind about leaving Juve. It would have meant that he'd decided to "play", wherever it would be. Announcing his last year at Juve at the start of the season would have made it an extremely memorable season both for him and the fans as they would have known that it was gonna be Ale's last season. He did not announce it. You don't need to complicate things, there's only one reason for that: He wasn't sure what he'd want to do. Agnelli, however, blocked any other option for him. The message was clear: He has to leave.

Del Piero's.

AA said a couple of days ago how it was Del Piero's decision. When Ale signed the last contract he told AA and the others in Juve that it's gonna be his last contract with Juve. AA fucked up by going public with it.

Why did Del Piero not announce it at the beginning of the season? Agnelli is lying.

 

[Alen]

Why did Del Piero not announce it at the beginning of the season? Agnelli is lying.

I'm pretty sure he's not lying. But I do think you are right with what you said previously.

Del Piero almost surely, imo, told the people in Juve that it's his last contract. Maldini was doing the same publicly and then changed his mind at least 5 times. Del Piero was aware too that he might change his mind. At that point he thought that it's his last year but he left the possibility to change his mind and that's why he didn't go publicly.
Agnelli imo didn't just make a honest mistake when he announced what DP said in private. I think he did what you implied up there in your post.

 

[tyouto]

ale is classy person he won't announced his clear decision/opinion until the end of the season
he doesn't want to ruin the atmosphere of locker room

AA fucked up by going public with it.

and ale seems doesn't like it either. but ale hold it just by saying "Let's say that the President has reminded me in advance of the expiry of my contract"

 

[Fake Melo]

I'm pretty sure he's not lying. But I do think you are right with what you said previously.

Del Piero almost surely, imo, told the people in Juve that it's his last contract. Maldini was doing the same publicly and then changed his mind at least 5 times. Del Piero was aware too that he might change his mind. At that point he thought that it's his last year but he left the possibility to change his mind and that's why he didn't go publicly.
Agnelli imo didn't just make a honest mistake when he announced what DP said in private. I think he did what you implied up there in your post.

Heard Moggi spoke about it the other day, saying AA didn't announce it, but one of the shareholders asked about it.

But yeah, I agree with everything you said.

 

[Salvatore]

There are a lot of reasons why Del Piero might/might not announce the news at the beginning of the season.

 

[king Ale]

Heard Moggi spoke about it the other day, saying AA didn't announce it, but one of the shareholders asked about it.

But yeah, I agree with everything you said.

Except that I'm not Ahmed.

 

[Alen]

Except that I'm not Ahmed.

I have no clue how did that happen

Edit: Uhhhh, I multi-quoted one of his messages so I guess that's how his name found itself there.

 

[king Ale]

There are a lot of reasons why Del Piero might/might not announce the news at the beginning of the season.

He didn't announce it. What could be those reasons?

 

[Fake Melo]

Except that I'm not Ahmed.

What?

 

[Alen]

What?

The world will never know, buahahahahaha.

 

[Salvatore]

He didn't announce it. What could be those reasons?

Given the way the team had been suffering, he's more focused on getting results this season instead of making it a countdown to him leaving? Reduces the media attention and pressure on Conte and Juventus as a whole.

 

[Fake Melo]

Even though I disagree with some of Conte's decisions with regards to DP this season, I have to give him credit for how he handled the situation. He bleeds black & white, he is friends with Ale, yet he is able to bench him without thinking of the consequences.

 

[tyouto]

IL CAPITANO that's more than an armband on your arm

 

[king Ale]

Given the way the team had been suffering, he's more focused on getting results this season instead of making it a countdown to him leaving? Reduces the media attention and pressure on Conte and Juventus as a whole.

Ale is too nice and all but that sounds like a fairy tale. He didn't announce it because he wasn't sure about it.

Even though I disagree with some of Conte's decisions with regards to DP this season, I have to give him credit for how he handled the situation. He bleeds black & white, he is friends with Ale, yet he is able to bench him without thinking of the consequences.

Agreed. That's why I think he is a brave coach, which is one of the things I admire in him. But I hate him. I am the consequence.

 

[Salvatore]

Ale is too nice and all but that sounds like a fairy tale. He didn't announce it because he wasn't sure about it.

Well yes that was the obvious reason, the reason why Nedved announced his retirement in the February of his final season. A lot of this discussion seems to be based on what people definitely think Del Piero/Agnelli would do.