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Hmm, thats something completley different, Chiellini would be a step backward for sure but with worse consequences.
If I had to choose between Buffon and Chiellini it would be Chiellini everyday of the week.
Buffon does a job that doesn't exactly need doing exceptionally well, exceptionally well. We'd be better of with a keeper who does that job well, and a defence that can actually play football.
If I had to choose between Buffon and Chiellini it would be Chiellini everyday of the week.
Buffon does a job that doesn't exactly need doing exceptionally well, exceptionally well. We'd be better of with a keeper who does that job well, and a defence that can actually play football.
I think we all thought we'd turned the corner last summer, we signed Melo and everyone thought it was bliss. Then it became apparant that melo was signed to do the job we wanted D'Agostino for, then this became probably the stupidest signing of the current management.
I for one don't think this current board will ever learn.
I for one don't think this current board will ever learn.
Buffon's pressence can't be replaced by a goalkeeper that just does his job well. There is a calming sense of safety knowing that you have someone like Buffon behind you to fall on when needed. Graned our backline is not clicking but that does not mean the GK needs to be sold.
I get the need to raise money for buying players, but for 35m is certainly not enough for Gigi. Like I said, there are other players we need to get rid of that might make up quite a bit of what Gigi is worth and are no where near the stature of him.
I get the need to raise money for buying players, but for 35m is certainly not enough for Gigi. Like I said, there are other players we need to get rid of that might make up quite a bit of what Gigi is worth and are no where near the stature of him.
I agree with the last part about other players being sold instead, then i'll be looking towards the likes of Camo, Amauri and Maybe Trez and Sissoko.
Onto the bolded part.
Our backline not clicking is the biggest understatement of the century, it is a total trainwreck, and Buffons 'calming influence' has had no effect whatsoever, if anything the trainwreck is influencing him negitavely.
I'm not saying that the only option to sell him, but given Buffon's status, value and marketablity, his sale would go a long way into giving the whole of this squad a well needed facelift.
Imagine, how well rounded our defence and Gk would be
Plus there would be excess cash to spend ont he team further up in the field.
If a good offer came along, I think we'd be stupid not to consider it
Onto the bolded part.
Our backline not clicking is the biggest understatement of the century, it is a total trainwreck, and Buffons 'calming influence' has had no effect whatsoever, if anything the trainwreck is influencing him negitavely.
I'm not saying that the only option to sell him, but given Buffon's status, value and marketablity, his sale would go a long way into giving the whole of this squad a well needed facelift.
Imagine, how well rounded our defence and Gk would be
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Plus there would be excess cash to spend ont he team further up in the field.
If a good offer came along, I think we'd be stupid not to consider it
Would'nt you trade in an amazing part to get lots of other good parts?
After all a well rounded team can defeat a team with a few shiny parts but mostly rubish parts, we've seen this many times this season as we've been on the end of many real ass whoopings.
(sorry for the phrasology i've used but I couldn't think of any other way to make it clear)
After all a well rounded team can defeat a team with a few shiny parts but mostly rubish parts, we've seen this many times this season as we've been on the end of many real ass whoopings.
(sorry for the phrasology i've used but I couldn't think of any other way to make it clear)
Ideally, of course, new people would be brought in to make these decisions on signings, but there doesn't seem to be any sign of that happening.
I still don't think signing Melo was that bad a move, though Juve clearly overpaid for him.
I consider appointing Ferrara and not investing money on the defence more foolish than signing Melo.
I still don't think signing Melo was that bad a move, though Juve clearly overpaid for him.
I consider appointing Ferrara and not investing money on the defence more foolish than signing Melo.
Isill hold to that he wasn't a bad signing as a player, but he was a bad signing tactically.
The Grosso signing really was a terrible botch job indeed, although it won't be flashy our first signings should be defenders, this will be evn moredifficult with the world cup coming up as it is a natural time for teams to replenish thier teams.
The Grosso signing really was a terrible botch job indeed, although it won't be flashy our first signings should be defenders, this will be evn moredifficult with the world cup coming up as it is a natural time for teams to replenish thier teams.
In general, I would probably agree with that. But not in this instance. The way I see it, Buffon is just too important to the team (on & off the field), he's one of the maybe 4 or 5 players who should be part of a new foundation.
Plus, imo we do have some players that aren't needed, but could still fetch us some real money.
Plus, imo we do have some players that aren't needed, but could still fetch us some real money.
You really can't think of any? Not to mention what we get in sales but what we save in salaries too will go a long way.
The offer would have to be insane for me to ever consider it. I'm talking like 60m+. Look, our budget whatever it is plus player sales can get us a long way. Just as long as we don't overpay for anyone like we did with Melo.
You can't put a cheap pair of tires on a race car just to save money on building a faster engine when the cheap tires won't even keep this shiny new fast car on the track. (my phraseology)
My point exactly. Why change an amazing part only to get some "good" parts. You can't replcae Buffon no matter who you buy. Economically yes sure it sounds good, more money losing one player to get more player(s)...but the player you lose, in this case Gigi, is it really worth risking other "good" players that might fail here? No guarantee that who you buy with Buffon's money will show a return on the investment...aka Felipe Melo. With Buffon you know exactly what you get.
Besides, lets say we get Prandelli, Benetiz or Blanc this summer. Each coach has at least two or more players we would love to have from each team they are on now. We just need to be really smart with our next Mercato.
The offer would have to be insane for me to ever consider it. I'm talking like 60m+. Look, our budget whatever it is plus player sales can get us a long way. Just as long as we don't overpay for anyone like we did with Melo.
You can't put a cheap pair of tires on a race car just to save money on building a faster engine when the cheap tires won't even keep this shiny new fast car on the track. (my phraseology)
My point exactly. Why change an amazing part only to get some "good" parts. You can't replcae Buffon no matter who you buy. Economically yes sure it sounds good, more money losing one player to get more player(s)...but the player you lose, in this case Gigi, is it really worth risking other "good" players that might fail here? No guarantee that who you buy with Buffon's money will show a return on the investment...aka Felipe Melo. With Buffon you know exactly what you get.
Besides, lets say we get Prandelli, Benetiz or Blanc this summer. Each coach has at least two or more players we would love to have from each team they are on now. We just need to be really smart with our next Mercato.
Tactics and Injuries. Age did not play a role. Here is a list of the age of juventus squad. We might not be the youngest but we are definitely not the oldest. We do need to inject some new blood , but not at the expense of the the experienced players.
Buffon 32
Cheminti 39
Manninger 32
Avg = 34.3
Cacerers 22
Legro 34
Chiellini 25
Cannavaro 36
Zebina 31
Grygera 29
Grosso 32
De Cegli 23
Avg = 29
Candreva 23
Melo 25
Salihamdzic 33
Marchisio 24
Camoranesi 33
Poulsen 30
Sissoko 25
Diego 25
Marrone 19
Avg = 26.3
Paulucci 24
Iaquinta 30
Del Piero 35
Amauri 29
Trezeguet 32
Immobile 20
Giovinco 23
Avg = 27.5
Total Avg = 28.3
Starting Eleven: Buffon, Caceres, Legro, Chiellini, Grosso, Sissoko, Marchisio, Camoranesi, Diego, Del Piero, Trezeguet.
In this formation: Defense avg age: 28.25, Midfield avg age: 26.75, Forwards avg age: 33.5
The forwards age is high, true, but with a simple rotation it can be dropped to 26 with a combination of Amauri & Giovinco. Same goes to midfield, if Candreva is playing instead of camoranesi the avg age will be lower than 25.
Buffon 32
Cheminti 39
Manninger 32
Avg = 34.3
Cacerers 22
Legro 34
Chiellini 25
Cannavaro 36
Zebina 31
Grygera 29
Grosso 32
De Cegli 23
Avg = 29
Candreva 23
Melo 25
Salihamdzic 33
Marchisio 24
Camoranesi 33
Poulsen 30
Sissoko 25
Diego 25
Marrone 19
Avg = 26.3
Paulucci 24
Iaquinta 30
Del Piero 35
Amauri 29
Trezeguet 32
Immobile 20
Giovinco 23
Avg = 27.5
Total Avg = 28.3
Starting Eleven: Buffon, Caceres, Legro, Chiellini, Grosso, Sissoko, Marchisio, Camoranesi, Diego, Del Piero, Trezeguet.
In this formation: Defense avg age: 28.25, Midfield avg age: 26.75, Forwards avg age: 33.5
The forwards age is high, true, but with a simple rotation it can be dropped to 26 with a combination of Amauri & Giovinco. Same goes to midfield, if Candreva is playing instead of camoranesi the avg age will be lower than 25.
