"John Terry runs over a steward as Chelsea crash out of Europe"
Only a real captain does that...
Only a real captain does that...
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How any Juve supporter could pay respect to the Bernabau faithful is beyond me. For I see them as scum. And just because they were nice to DP, does not mean I suddenly change my opnion of them...Its a pitiful incident to use to argue with me.
Yes. As captains, i value aggression. I value manliness. Off the field, i value manliness in other ways than purely muscle and ferocity, such as valour, honour, integrity, but these are not prime ingredients for a Captain of a football team.
To compare DP's trophy cabinet with Terry's is also useless. for Terry has not played for the vast majority of his career with a team attracting the best players in the world, and able to buy the best players in the world. It takes time to establish this, regardless of the massive input of russian petro$$$$...and we established this many moons ago, as a club.
Maldini and Baresi, were rarely vicious, but their positions, perhaps not much more, demanded they show more warrior like tendencies, to inspire respect in their colleagues. The others...I stand by the suggestion that they were or ar wonderful captains.
I do enjoy the decency of our club over the years, but decency, like in business, in anything competitive, very rarely brings success. Keano was rarely decent, but he was as responsible for HIS united team's succes as players far more technically gifted...Anyone who saw him, and that era, will be forced to agree with this on factual, not subjective grounds. Yet his main assets were aggression, nastiness, ferocity...I would prefer to see him now, that DP, even at his age. Because he would not accept such shoddy performances around him, and if Melo was ignoring him, Melo would be scalped as soon as the cameras were off the players...
Yes. As captains, i value aggression. I value manliness. Off the field, i value manliness in other ways than purely muscle and ferocity, such as valour, honour, integrity, but these are not prime ingredients for a Captain of a football team.
To compare DP's trophy cabinet with Terry's is also useless. for Terry has not played for the vast majority of his career with a team attracting the best players in the world, and able to buy the best players in the world. It takes time to establish this, regardless of the massive input of russian petro$$$$...and we established this many moons ago, as a club.
Maldini and Baresi, were rarely vicious, but their positions, perhaps not much more, demanded they show more warrior like tendencies, to inspire respect in their colleagues. The others...I stand by the suggestion that they were or ar wonderful captains.
I do enjoy the decency of our club over the years, but decency, like in business, in anything competitive, very rarely brings success. Keano was rarely decent, but he was as responsible for HIS united team's succes as players far more technically gifted...Anyone who saw him, and that era, will be forced to agree with this on factual, not subjective grounds. Yet his main assets were aggression, nastiness, ferocity...I would prefer to see him now, that DP, even at his age. Because he would not accept such shoddy performances around him, and if Melo was ignoring him, Melo would be scalped as soon as the cameras were off the players...
Poet isn't a prick.I would have given him shit,if i thought so but his opinion on DP is very bemusing as a fellow Juventus fan.
Suns on the other hand reminds me of Zlatan,engongo bongo & THE CHUMPions.
Suns on the other hand reminds me of Zlatan,engongo bongo & THE CHUMPions.
, I mean that's really one of the most retarded shits I've read since a while now.JuveJay...argue with what I have written, not words you put into my virtual mouth.
Azzurri...Your descent into vulgarity and awfully put into english insults clearly shows your side of the argument.
Byrone...thankyou, mildly, for understanding, that whilst my opnion my be somewhat antagonistic to your opinion, it is nonetheless, founded upon, in my view, solid, and understandable instincts.
Azzurri...Your descent into vulgarity and awfully put into english insults clearly shows your side of the argument.
Byrone...thankyou, mildly, for understanding, that whilst my opnion my be somewhat antagonistic to your opinion, it is nonetheless, founded upon, in my view, solid, and understandable instincts.
A real Captain should not only kick someone up in the air, but should break legs, necks and if possible take off lungs.
Also a real Captain is the captain that shows aggressiveness attacking refs almost beating them, and not knowing how to act class on the pitch and off the pitch.
A real Captain should hold a stick in his hand beat up his teammates and maybe just on some occasions stick carrots up in his teammates butts.
Also a real Captain is the captain that shows aggressiveness attacking refs almost beating them, and not knowing how to act class on the pitch and off the pitch.
A real Captain should hold a stick in his hand beat up his teammates and maybe just on some occasions stick carrots up in his teammates butts.
Where did i pay respect to the real supporters? I don't like Real Madrid but giving a standing ovation to a rival team player is beyond class & cannot be counted as a pitiful excuse.
Having integrity & honor goes a long way into being a successful captain.As a captain one should not bring public shame to a club.Something Terry & Keane have done.Whether you like it or not,their public lives do reflect on the club & it sends a horrible message to young,impressionable viewers.
I'm sorry but to use Terry as an example of a good captain is laughable.The guy is surrounded by massively talented players that could change the outcome of a match with a single moment of brilliance.How many times has Terry bailed Chelsea out of a losing deficit? Why didn't Terry take Drogba & Ballack away from the camera as they vented their frustration to being knocked out by barcelona in the CL? Why didn't he publicly scorn them for their disgusting behavior? Captains need to lead on the field as well as off it,they're ambassadors for the club.Terry & Keane were horrible in that aspect.
I fail to see how Baresi & Maldini did such a marvelous job besides playing outstandingly.They had WC talents by their sides with solid WC coaches to give direction to their teams.As for the Keane being responsible for his teams success is ludacris.Sir Alex built a team on talented youngsters,vastly experienced players & Sir Alex's tactical superiority brought those years of success.Can you honestly tell me that players like Giggs,Beckham,Andy Cole,Butt,Scholes,Neville brothers & Peter Scheimcel were bit part figures during Keanes role as utd captain? Too much to handle buddy.
Keane was a very intimidating player on the field but he commanded respect out fear for a tongue lashing.He was a very instrumental figure for utd,no doubt & his performances were very,very good.If you rate Keane so much,why not add Patrick Vieira into the eqaution.He too was aggressive as Keane & they were very much a like in terms of presence on the field,digging into the action & giving dirty looks & insults to team mates that would screw up on the field.
So was Patrick Vieira a good captain? He was basically a mirror image for Arsenal & he played a huge part in Arsenals success.
Having integrity & honor goes a long way into being a successful captain.As a captain one should not bring public shame to a club.Something Terry & Keane have done.Whether you like it or not,their public lives do reflect on the club & it sends a horrible message to young,impressionable viewers.
I'm sorry but to use Terry as an example of a good captain is laughable.The guy is surrounded by massively talented players that could change the outcome of a match with a single moment of brilliance.How many times has Terry bailed Chelsea out of a losing deficit? Why didn't Terry take Drogba & Ballack away from the camera as they vented their frustration to being knocked out by barcelona in the CL? Why didn't he publicly scorn them for their disgusting behavior? Captains need to lead on the field as well as off it,they're ambassadors for the club.Terry & Keane were horrible in that aspect.
I fail to see how Baresi & Maldini did such a marvelous job besides playing outstandingly.They had WC talents by their sides with solid WC coaches to give direction to their teams.As for the Keane being responsible for his teams success is ludacris.Sir Alex built a team on talented youngsters,vastly experienced players & Sir Alex's tactical superiority brought those years of success.Can you honestly tell me that players like Giggs,Beckham,Andy Cole,Butt,Scholes,Neville brothers & Peter Scheimcel were bit part figures during Keanes role as utd captain? Too much to handle buddy.
Keane was a very intimidating player on the field but he commanded respect out fear for a tongue lashing.He was a very instrumental figure for utd,no doubt & his performances were very,very good.If you rate Keane so much,why not add Patrick Vieira into the eqaution.He too was aggressive as Keane & they were very much a like in terms of presence on the field,digging into the action & giving dirty looks & insults to team mates that would screw up on the field.
So was Patrick Vieira a good captain? He was basically a mirror image for Arsenal & he played a huge part in Arsenals success.
Mee too.
Indeed we are very lucky to witness DP in our life time.It's something to tell the kids & grandkids one day.
Kinda weird how Roy Keane, John Terry, Baresi, Dunga, Gerrard, Ballack & Puyol never ever received a standing ovation at the santiago bernabeu.
Indeed we are very lucky to witness DP in our life time.It's something to tell the kids & grandkids one day.
Kinda weird how Roy Keane, John Terry, Baresi, Dunga, Gerrard, Ballack & Puyol never ever received a standing ovation at the santiago bernabeu.