Igor Tudor (104 Viewers)

[s4tch]

We were playing 2-2 against a relegated Venice side...

they were not relegated yet, they played for survival, at home. we got the result we wanted, they didn't

conte's napoli missed two golden opportunities to win the league, and they were very lucky that lazio managed to get a draw with a last minute penalty at san siro. they also failed to beat venezia away, they lost to como, couldn't beat udinese at home, lost to both lazio and atalanta at home without scoring, so what

should we really should care about aesthetics? with this joke of a defense, easily the weakest ever to play a decider match for juve, and one worth north of 60m at it? this could have well been venezia's defense lol

context matters. considering the circumstances i think tudor did a decent job.

 

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[Osman]

Even if you consider all the context and mitigating factors. It really boils down to, we really can't do better than this? There's significant amount of coaches in the sport who are better/more proven then Tudor . We just needed to be savvy and proactive enough to go get them. We had full summer or spring to find them.


He has been nothing but interim level coach for a decade. So where is this automatic faith in him come from? I'm not sure why we in a hurry to settle? For doing bare minimum expected of Juve in 9 games? (Qualify for CL).


I like Tudor as an individual, but Juve as a club should aim higher. Especially as you all say, our squad is weaker then the standard should be at Juve. That means it's way more important to have real quality coach that can squeeze out more from less.

 

[Rockets]

It's not all about formation but as long as he sticks to 3 man defense and not using wingers, I won't have high hopes for next season. We are playing archaic football with all those neither fish nor fowl wingbacks and SS.

I hope he can change his tactics and put our core players in where they fit in the best.

 

[campionesidd]

Not sure he’s the right guy for our club, but I’m happy for him.

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

It's not all about formation but as long as he sticks to 3 man defense and not using wingers, I won't have high hopes for next season. We are playing archaic football with all those neither fish nor fowl wingbacks and SS.

I hope he can change his tactics and put our core players in where they fit in the best.

3 at the back works in Serie A, and that’s all we should be mainly focussing on next season anyway. Europe isn’t for us for the next few years, so I don’t care if that formation is archaic or whatever there. Let’s just go back to competing for the title (and trying to win). Then we concern ourselves with Europe when we are actually a top team again.

 

[Salvo]

The issue with Tudor is unless the club see him as someone who has potential to be a long term solution as coach then what is the point? We all know that the management must fully back a coach especially when inevitable rough patches come otherwise the coach is screwed.

However with the club world cup in the middle of it and let's say the only profile they liked was Conte you either have to widen the net or just stick with Tudor. After all you don't want to give a multi year deal to a coach you aren't convinced of. It's quite a dilemma because if we fail this season it will bring everyone into question again and you just can't keep doing that.

I just fear Tudor is a dead man walking.

 

[TheLaz]

The issue with Tudor is unless the club see him as someone who has potential to be a long term solution as coach then what is the point? We all know that the management must fully back a coach especially when inevitable rough patches come otherwise the coach is screwed.

However with the club world cup in the middle of it and let's say the only profile they liked was Conte you either have to widen the net or just stick with Tudor. After all you don't want to give a multi year deal to a coach you aren't convinced of. It's quite a dilemma because if we fail this season it will bring everyone into question again and you just can't keep doing that.

I just fear Tudor is a dead man walking.

You raise a valid point. I just don’t see Tudor as the long-term solution for Juventus or someone capable of becoming a top-tier coach at this level. Which begs the question: why are we appointing him now? Why not bring in someone we actually believe in?

What concerns me even more is the squad-building direction. Under Motta and Giuntoli, we had a clear project. They were aligned—targeting natural wingers and fullbacks, players suited for a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 setup. But now, appointing a coach who favors a back-three system marks a clear shift. And frankly, it doesn’t make much sense. If we stick with a three-man defense, we’re headed for yet another chaotic summer transfer window, with major overhauls needed both in and out.

We should’ve stayed committed to the original project and simply found a coach who fit that tactical vision—someone with the same intensity and winning mentality that Tudor brings, but aligned with the plan we were already building toward.

 

[Salvo]

You raise a valid point. I just don’t see Tudor as the long-term solution for Juventus or someone capable of becoming a top-tier coach at this level. Which begs the question: why are we appointing him now? Why not bring in someone we actually believe in?

What concerns me even more is the squad-building direction. Under Motta and Giuntoli, we had a clear project. They were aligned—targeting natural wingers and fullbacks, players suited for a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1 setup. But now, appointing a coach who favors a back-three system marks a clear shift. And frankly, it doesn’t make much sense. If we stick with a three-man defense, we’re headed for yet another chaotic summer transfer window, with major overhauls needed both in and out.

We should’ve stayed committed to the original project and simply found a coach who fit that tactical vision—someone with the same intensity and winning mentality that Tudor brings, but aligned with the plan we were already building toward.

Well if the management aren't convinced by anyone and the right fit isn't available what do you do? Get a Ranieri for a year? What's the point. It has to be someone you believe in. I feel like this is exactly what has happened once Conte said no and then Gasp said no.

 

[TheLaz]

Well if the management aren't convinced by anyone and the right fit isn't available what do you do? Get a Ranieri for a year? What's the point. It has to be someone you believe in. I feel like this is exactly what has happened once Conte said no and then Gasp said no.

Both Conte and Gasperini favor systems built around a back three. But with Conte, you’re also getting a brand of football that’s often rigid and geared toward grinding out 1-0 wins. Sure, he just won the Scudetto and could have potentially steadied the ship at Juventus—but he wouldn’t be my top choice. Personally, I would’ve preferred replacing Motta with someone who shares his tactical style but brings more intensity.

I don’t have a specific name in mind, though maybe even Brambilla could have filled in as a short-term option. If I were the sporting director, with the resources to properly scout and recruit, I could probably come up with five strong candidates. Off the top of my head, coaches like Baroni, Italiano, or Paladino—who all work with a 4-2-3-1—might have been better fits in terms of continuity. Whether they bring the same level of intensity and winning mindset is another question, but at least they would keep us on track with the existing tactical framework.

 

[Gian]

The real question though: will higher management invest much $$$ when they dont have their first choice manager and their 3th choice remaining manager on a 1 year deal?
Does Tudor get the proper backing and 200m to invest? Or are we giving him some FM statistical wonder kids

Next season will be so a torture.

 

[Akshen]

Defender? We need wing back if he stays

 

[Amer]

Is this guy staying?

What are the percentages?

 

[Bianconero_Aus]

Is this guy staying?

What are the percentages?

È praticamente fatta.

 

[abstract]

Thank you for barely qualifying for CL but if he stays here for next season i doubt he'll stay for long.
I guess we couldn't sign the coach we wanted so we're staying with him, let's hope for the best.

 

[Amer]

È praticamente fatta.

L'inserimento a sorpresa di...

 

[GarfielD]

Defender? We need wing back if he stays

Winger? But he doesnt play with wingers... He even didnt use Concecao a lot.

 

[Dominic]

Defender? We need wing back if he stays

You need much more, mister

 

[mjromeo81]

Umm....who is starting in midfield? Does he actually plan to use Koop and Douglas Luiz? Is the answer Locatelli and McKennie?

Thuram is the only player I rate in our midfield. Thuram needs help...

 

[icemaη]

You need much more, mister

He knows if he asks more than that he’ll be shown the door.

 

[s4tch]

...Thuram is the only player I rate in our midfield....

tudor might think likewise lol

btw that's such a bs news at first sight. we have so many holes in the squad it's not even funny. bremer isn't ready (and there's always a risk after returns), kolo muani isn't guaranteed to stay, milik is useless, etc. we probably don't need a goalie, that's the only semi-certainty lol