Your pessimistic attitude fits in great here 
Stick around and post more, dude!
Stick around and post more, dude!
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Fact is that Tudor did qualify us for UCL and put a stop to the humiliating scorelines and defeats that were becoming the norm before he stepped in, which is far from ‘doing absolutely nothing’, especially when knowing that he did it with a scrappy injury prone squad struggling with low morale…
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I agree that he didn’t necessarily have an impressive spell but overall he has stabilized the ship and achieved the main objective that was asked of him, therefore deserves to at least be considered, especially when looking at the rumored alternatives.
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I agree that he didn’t necessarily have an impressive spell but overall he has stabilized the ship and achieved the main objective that was asked of him, therefore deserves to at least be considered, especially when looking at the rumored alternatives.
The mandate was clear: qualify for the Champions League and Tudor delivered, despite managing a squad hit by poor form, injuries, and suspensions to key players during critical matches. Who’s to say he can’t achieve more with a full pre-season, a few well-targeted signings, and proper backing from the management? If Thiago Motta, was being considered for that kind of support, there’s no reason Tudor shouldn’t be afforded the same opportunity.
And let’s cut the “we need a more high-profile coach” narrative. First, we’ve gone down that path already and failed to land the main targets in Conte and Gasperini . Second, the other top-tier managers are locked into elite clubs. Third, the current bunch of available names like Mancini, Pioli, Silva—aren’t likely to do any better, and would probably end up costing us more in the long run when the cycle repeats and we inevitably need to replace them.
And let’s cut the “we need a more high-profile coach” narrative. First, we’ve gone down that path already and failed to land the main targets in Conte and Gasperini . Second, the other top-tier managers are locked into elite clubs. Third, the current bunch of available names like Mancini, Pioli, Silva—aren’t likely to do any better, and would probably end up costing us more in the long run when the cycle repeats and we inevitably need to replace them.
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Yeah, no thanks.
His xG stats also uninspiring for top sides. In some matches against lower teams we rarely dominate. Yes, our team has been more direct compare to under Motta, but we need to see and improve more under him next season to be able to challenge the title.
But I still thinks that his approach against Roma, Bologna, Lazio that get us draw (score first) help us to seal 4th spot.
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There's all sorts of context that is being ignored in that small sample. Immediately, what % was played with only 10 men. Then what % is played with a desired result in mind. You are chasing 4th at the end of season not 1st from game 1. What's the xG with players available? Does it matter that our best attacker got suspended for multiple matches?
The drop since 20/21 is not surprising, we are in a far worse place.
I'm not sure how much we can read into the Tudor stats though. He had 9 games, 3 were away to direct rivals, 2 we got early red cards including one game where we would likely have created more chances.
It was also a tricky part of the season which was very much about turning around a team that was performing terribly and getting results.
I'd have preferred a manager with more of a track record but given the options, I'm happy to go into the season with him. I'd prefer him over Pioli, Mancini or Silva. He will have a chance to have a preseason with the team and we will see more of what he can bring.
I'm not sure how much we can read into the Tudor stats though. He had 9 games, 3 were away to direct rivals, 2 we got early red cards including one game where we would likely have created more chances.
It was also a tricky part of the season which was very much about turning around a team that was performing terribly and getting results.
I'd have preferred a manager with more of a track record but given the options, I'm happy to go into the season with him. I'd prefer him over Pioli, Mancini or Silva. He will have a chance to have a preseason with the team and we will see more of what he can bring.
Defence at that time as non existent, Yildiz and Koop barely played. Other players were either injured or fatigued. Almost every player was completely done with the season and lacked motivation.
There was also a lot of pressure in every game so scrapping victories or draws against direct rivals for the final CL places.
Not to mention playing the majority of two games with only 10 men.
Tudor did a great job all things considered.
I would prefer someone better and more experienced but the reality is there is no one else available so I won't be mad if we just stick with him.
There was also a lot of pressure in every game so scrapping victories or draws against direct rivals for the final CL places.
Not to mention playing the majority of two games with only 10 men.
Tudor did a great job all things considered.
I would prefer someone better and more experienced but the reality is there is no one else available so I won't be mad if we just stick with him.
