Igor Tudor (105 Viewers)

Xperd

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Jun 1, 2012
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Conte, Gasperini, and Allegri will most likely secure top-four finishes with their teams, and Inter’s spot is practically guaranteed, with or without Inzaghi. So we can’t afford to take this lightly, we need a coach who gives us a high chance of making the Champions League. Tudor was lucky to get a spot this season despite losing to Parma and dropping points in several draws. Over the course of a full season, I doubt he can deliver consistent enough results to secure a top-four finish.
Agree. We need a way more aggressive and pro-active approach if we have to qualify for CL next season.

Our problem this season was beating the smaller teams. Not creating enough chances against them and when we did, our strikers were not clinical enough to bury them. Defense was not the problem at all. We did reasonably well despite the absences.

Unfortunately, I don't see Tudor inspiring much confidence based on what I've seen over the 9 games.

In terms of squad, first priority should be to fix the midfield and maybe get an extra winger or two. Because if you're gonna go around chase Gyokeres and the likes, chances are he will be another Vlahovic here.
 

Paolino

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Nov 1, 2013
1,195
Allegri and Milan will be lucky to make it into the conference league
Even in his worst seasons at Juve, Allegri always managed to secure a top-four spot, even with a poor squad where someone like Miretti was a regular starter. His style is pragmatic and result-oriented, so it’s hard to imagine him missing out on UCL. there is also Lazio with Sarri, Fio, Atalanta and Bologna. The race for the top four will be even tougher this season. Tudor didn’t beat any of the in-form sides like Roma, Parma, Bologna, or Lazio and this was during a period when a managerial change usually brings a temporary shock that improves results for a few weeks. We've seen it many times before, an interim coach does well for a short spell, gets a permanent deal, and then gets sacked by midseason. It’s a tough situation overall, Conte made things worse for us.
 

Paolino

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Nov 1, 2013
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In your opinion, how many points do you think Tudor would get out of a possible 36 in head-to-head matches against Inzaghi, Conte, Allegri, Gasperini, Sarri, and Italiano? I honestly don’t think he’d get more than 10-15 points, and that alone could decide whether we make the top four or not.
 

Scottish

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Mar 13, 2011
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In your opinion, how many points do you think Tudor would get out of a possible 36 in head-to-head matches against Inzaghi, Conte, Allegri, Gasperini, Sarri, and Italiano? I honestly don’t think he’d get more than 10-15 points, and that alone could decide whether we make the top four or not.
I would fully expect top 4 as a minimum with Tudor in charge next year especially with him having had a say in our mercato and with more braincells higher up for us as well.

Expect as in what I think would happen not as in professional expectation.
 
May 27, 2008
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Although I’ve been a member of this forum for years, I’ve rarely posted but mostly just read. For the first time in years, I’ve decided to break my silence, because for the first time ever, Juventus is going to be run top to bottom by cast-offs from the Turkish Süper Lig.

If you had followed Comolli’s two seasons at Fenerbahçe (though why would you it’s the trash-tier Turkish league), you would understand much better why I’m breaking my silence. Despite being one of the two richest clubs in Turkey, Fenerbahçe was filled with a pile of garbage players during his tenure. Sure, his first year was under the FFP stranglehold, but even in the following season, he failed to bring in any promising talent. The biggest issue? In Comolli’s first year, Fenerbahçe, for the first time in its history, fought to avoid relegation and not just for a couple of weeks, but until the final six weeks of the season. A club like Fenerbahçe fighting relegation, let that sink in.

Igor Tudor is another grey area. When he joined Galatasaray, the team had been bolstered by strong transfers and started the season on fire until the Beşiktaş derby. That match was unlike any other derby seen in Turkish football. Galatasaray was humiliated like never before in its history, and even though Beşiktaş won 3–0, they could’ve easily scored six or seven. Before that, Galatasaray conceded five goals against Başakşehir, a mid-table team at best, and Tudor’s throne was already shaken. Galatasaray swiftly brought in Fatih Terim. The squad was so strong that even Terim, a meme coach with famously limited tactical knowledge managed to win the league despite arriving mid-season.

Today in Turkey some still claim that "Galatasaray won the title thanks to the system Tudor put in place." Others argue that "Comolli brought in some great players on a tight budget." No matter what anyone says, neither of them were brilliant, at best they exist in a grey area.

But what’s clear is that neither of them is remotely capable of handling a giant like Juventus.
 

Stephan

Senior Member
Nov 9, 2005
16,661
Although I’ve been a member of this forum for years, I’ve rarely posted but mostly just read. For the first time in years, I’ve decided to break my silence, because for the first time ever, Juventus is going to be run top to bottom by cast-offs from the Turkish Süper Lig.

If you had followed Comolli’s two seasons at Fenerbahçe (though why would you it’s the trash-tier Turkish league), you would understand much better why I’m breaking my silence. Despite being one of the two richest clubs in Turkey, Fenerbahçe was filled with a pile of garbage players during his tenure. Sure, his first year was under the FFP stranglehold, but even in the following season, he failed to bring in any promising talent. The biggest issue? In Comolli’s first year, Fenerbahçe, for the first time in its history, fought to avoid relegation and not just for a couple of weeks, but until the final six weeks of the season. A club like Fenerbahçe fighting relegation, let that sink in.

Igor Tudor is another grey area. When he joined Galatasaray, the team had been bolstered by strong transfers and started the season on fire until the Beşiktaş derby. That match was unlike any other derby seen in Turkish football. Galatasaray was humiliated like never before in its history, and even though Beşiktaş won 3–0, they could’ve easily scored six or seven. Before that, Galatasaray conceded five goals against Başakşehir, a mid-table team at best, and Tudor’s throne was already shaken. Galatasaray swiftly brought in Fatih Terim. The squad was so strong that even Terim, a meme coach with famously limited tactical knowledge managed to win the league despite arriving mid-season.

Today in Turkey some still claim that "Galatasaray won the title thanks to the system Tudor put in place." Others argue that "Comolli brought in some great players on a tight budget." No matter what anyone says, neither of them were brilliant, at best they exist in a grey area.

But what’s clear is that neither of them is remotely capable of handling a giant like Juventus.
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Mar 30, 2003
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Cant remember the last time Juventus seemed so weak and uncertain. Even in 2006 we all knew Juventus was going to come back as strong as ever.

Now nobody can be so sure. There's a real chance we might head down the same road as Man United, Ajax, AC Milan etc... a fallen giant.
 
Feb 12, 2006
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In your opinion, how many points do you think Tudor would get out of a possible 36 in head-to-head matches against Inzaghi, Conte, Allegri, Gasperini, Sarri, and Italiano? I honestly don’t think he’d get more than 10-15 points, and that alone could decide whether we make the top four or not.
As long as we aren't playing Lloyd Kelly, and with some proper recruitments there's no reason why we can't get results with Tudor, in another words I trust him more than the proposed alternatives to date.
 

Brny44

Senior Member
Aug 24, 2020
2,061
Tudor have character, football knowledge and juve DNA, but he is missing tactical ability. Througt last 10 years as a coach, he had more bad than good times and that makes someting suspicius or worrying. And we are not in a state of another meltdown.

We should move on and find more Established coach, even if we have to pay 20mill for his transfer. It's better to invest into a good coach than spend money for likes of kelly, cabal, and all the useless players.

I'm sure klopp would take a job for 10mill/season or zidane, emery, dechamps...

Bringing dechamps would make sense, he would bring players from france, and we would finaly move on from serie a overated prices. And he would probably get along with comoli...
 
Sep 16, 2020
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Tudor have character, football knowledge and juve DNA, but he is missing tactical ability. Througt last 10 years as a coach, he had more bad than good times and that makes someting suspicius or worrying. And we are not in a state of another meltdown.

We should move on and find more Established coach, even if we have to pay 20mill for his transfer. It's better to invest into a good coach than spend money for likes of kelly, cabal, and all the useless players.

I'm sure klopp would take a job for 10mill/season or zidane, emery, dechamps...

Bringing dechamps would make sense, he would bring players from france, and we would finaly move on from serie a overated prices. And he would probably get along with comoli...
Klopp is enjoying retirement. He wont be back soon.
Deschamp leaves after WC next year.
Zidane, i won't bet on him since he's been in sabbatical for 5 years. His instinc is questionable. There is other issues like his high salaries and he isn't proven coach to build a team from scratch.
Good ebening is tied with another club and need big money to pay compensation.

Of all name maybe deschamp is more realistic but for next season. The option now keep tudor for a season.
 

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