Igor Tudor - Manager (97 Viewers)

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,257
Tudor won't win important trophies as a Juve manager, but he will set the groundwork for future victories. I am saying this because it looks like he's insisting to get rid of the jinxes. As a Croat and as a former professional footballer, he knows that Americans can't play football and we won't win anything until McKennie, Weah and the likes are here.
He won us the CL spot, now he's cleaning the house from cockroaches... it's gonna be piss easy for the next coach.
Thank you Igor.
It's no coincidence that as soon as Mckennie joined the club, we stopped winning major trophies. Until then we won 9 Serie A titles in a row. To make matters worse, as to prevent us from even having a remote chance of winning, we brought Weah. That was simply too much. You could have had a team of CR, Messi, Zidane, Pirlo, Nedved, DP, Nesta, Chiellini in their prime but even they would not be able to make up for the lack of any playing ability of the 2 American amateurs. We have become a laughing stock since they joined. Its time to clean up the house.
 

Bjerknes

"Top Economist"
Mar 16, 2004
117,197
It's no coincidence that as soon as we started buying Croatian players, our dominance in Europe was over and we became perennial losers. It all started with buying Boksic after our 1996 Champions League Win. Of course, a year later we were humiliated by Dortmund with Boksic being a massive flop in the final. Fast forward to 2003 when this thread's namesake was on the pitch for the Milan final, but had to come off early because he couldn't take the pressure, so we had to waste a sub. Needless to say, we never had a chance in that final. Then fast forward to 2017 where, while he scored a goal, we still were humiliated by Real Madrid while Mandzukic was on the pitch. It was considered so much of a drubbing that they basically stopped playing, including Mandzukic. Even with Nedved, DP, Chiellini, Barzagli, Tevez, Vidal, Pirlo, et al, we didn't stand a chance in any of those finals. We have become a laughing stock since they started joining. Its time to clean up the house of Croat.
 

Alin

FINO ALLA FINE!
Jul 27, 2015
6,740
Tudor won't win important trophies as a Juve manager, but he will set the groundwork for future victories. I am saying this because it looks like he's insisting to get rid of the jinxes. As a Croat and as a former professional footballer, he knows that Americans can't play football and we won't win anything until McKennie, Weah and the likes are here.
He won us the CL spot, now he's cleaning the house from cockroaches... it's gonna be piss easy for the next coach.
Thank you Igor.
It's no coincidence that as soon as Mckennie joined the club, we stopped winning major trophies. Until then we won 9 Serie A titles in a row. To make matters worse, as to prevent us from even having a remote chance of winning, we brought Weah. That was simply too much. You could have had a team of CR, Messi, Zidane, Pirlo, Nedved, DP, Nesta, Chiellini in their prime but even they would not be able to make up for the lack of any playing ability of the 2 American amateurs. We have become a laughing stock since they joined. Its time to clean up the house.
It's no coincidence that as soon as we started buying Croatian players, our dominance in Europe was over and we became perennial losers. It all started with buying Boksic after our 1996 Champions League Win. Of course, a year later we were humiliated by Dortmund with Boksic being a massive flop in the final. Fast forward to 2003 when this thread's namesake was on the pitch for the Milan final, but had to come off early because he couldn't take the pressure, so we had to waste a sub. Needless to say, we never had a chance in that final. Then fast forward to 2017 where, while he scored a goal, we still were humiliated by Real Madrid while Mandzukic was on the pitch. It was considered so much of a drubbing that they basically stopped playing, including Mandzukic. Even with Nedved, DP, Chiellini, Barzagli, Tevez, Vidal, Pirlo, et al, we didn't stand a chance in any of those finals. We have become a laughing stock since they started joining. Its time to clean up the house of Croat.
It’s none of the above. I’ve got an even better one for y’all, there’s actually another major jinx that’s been here for as long as we’ve been in the banter era, which is Locatelli, and bias aside i’m almost certain that Juventus will not win anything major for as long as Locatelli is the captain and leader of this squad when in reality shouldn’t even be a fixed starter in this team.
 

rainhard

Senior Member
May 5, 2004
4,409
If this club want to success, winning with high numbers against club lower from us is a must

At least if we only get 4th positions, those high numbers from "easy games", will catapult our players stats above the rest of clubs around Europe

Then with these stats, it will be easier to sell. We basically can sell the" mediocre" Players for high valuation as long as they have the numbers. In current stats and data driven football, most clubs blindly tell numbers don't lie

Basically this is what Frankfurt did for several seasons, most of their goals come from their "cheap" Attackers. Look at Gyokeres to Arsenal, he has his numbers at Sporting

Haller buy 12m sell almost 50 or 60m cmiiw, Kolo Muani (free, sell for 95m), Ekitike etc

We are too long live in our bubble of 1-0 win is enough. Even when we win the throphy it is hard for us to sell for astronomically value. The last we sell for really high price was Pogba.

We buy Ronaldo can't sell, we buy Higuain can't sell, we buy Vlahovic even when he is still 25 and in his prime we can't sell. Idiot management to give him that kind of salary

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Mar 12, 2019
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How long are we giving him then?
I would like for him to finish this season good that means top4 unfortunatelly and improve the core of the team, so from next season we get more experienced coach who actually knows what he's doing.

I can see he get lost like Motta mid season with these players, because he really has a shitty team in his disposal. However another year of great humilion and pain is awaiting us. Forza
 

Zzak

Senior Member
Sep 11, 2014
870
If this club want to success, winning with high numbers against club lower from us is a must

At least if we only get 4th positions, those high numbers from "easy games", will catapult our players stats above the rest of clubs around Europe

Then with these stats, it will be easier to sell. We basically can sell the" mediocre" Players for high valuation as long as they have the numbers. In current stats and data driven football, most clubs blindly tell numbers don't lie

Basically this is what Frankfurt did for several seasons, most of their goals come from their "cheap" Attackers. Look at Gyokeres to Arsenal, he has his numbers at Sporting

Haller buy 12m sell almost 50 or 60m cmiiw, Kolo Muani (free, sell for 95m), Ekitike etc

We are too long live in our bubble of 1-0 win is enough. Even when we win the throphy it is hard for us to sell for astronomically value. The last we sell for really high price was Pogba.

We buy Ronaldo can't sell, we buy Higuain can't sell, we buy Vlahovic even when he is still 25 and in his prime we can't sell. Idiot management to give him that kind of salary

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I would love us to replicate what Frankfurt are doing. Even if it means we become a selling club
 

Orgut

Senior Member
Dec 31, 2002
19,529
Not 3:0 like last year against SS...
Progress
Its just a friendly and we are 3 signings away according to reports.
J.David looked good in highlights even though he missed a sitter.
Yildiz also missed a good chance.
Defense is till horrible.

3 signings away should be top CB top CM and top attacker.
We should be able to get a top CB (although we probably wont)
We could spend for a CM (I still think we will but not on the right one)
Attacker is a lost cause. All the good ones are already taken.
 

Mokku

Senior Member
Apr 17, 2019
2,814
Our WBs can't defend well, so we need 2x top CBs. Then we need a decent midfielder next to Thuram. Then another striker. Then reliable backups since Weah and Mbangula are out. A lot to do when we have to sell players who nobody wants, before we can put money on the table.

Tudor needs to get his head out of his arse. Getting pinned back by Reggiana is a disgrace and if he couldn't outsmart a B-level coach, he needs to look at himself. Also, there were no youth players, so everyone involved in the match had a lot of experience, yet they are struggling to play how Tudor wants. Maybe he's a motivator more than a tactician.

I expect us to easily make the top 4 and be pushing the leader until late in the season. Injuries are no excuse this time because Tudor should have a plan B and C.
 

Vlad

In Allegri We Trust
May 23, 2011
24,257
There will be plenty of time to lose my shit once the season kicks in. But over friendly, when we just got back into training? Nah
 

Lion

King of Tuz
Jan 24, 2007
36,280
Our WBs can't defend well, so we need 2x top CBs. Then we need a decent midfielder next to Thuram. Then another striker. Then reliable backups since Weah and Mbangula are out. A lot to do when we have to sell players who nobody wants, before we can put money on the table.

Tudor needs to get his head out of his arse. Getting pinned back by Reggiana is a disgrace and if he couldn't outsmart a B-level coach, he needs to look at himself. Also, there were no youth players, so everyone involved in the match had a lot of experience, yet they are struggling to play how Tudor wants. Maybe he's a motivator more than a tactician.

I expect us to easily make the top 4 and be pushing the leader until late in the season. Injuries are no excuse this time because Tudor should have a plan B and C.
Too much work all you are asking for. Just switch teams like me
 

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