If Man City shop in Turin... (2 Viewers)

[soulslider]

Looking at Amauri's form i would give Trezeguet for lets say 15-20 mil pounds and for that money purchase lets say Lavezzi , that would be one sick partnership Lavezzi-Amauri in 2 years time but this is all theoretical speaking of course .

 

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[Firestarter]

I wouldn't sell either of them.

 

[Dostoevsky]

I don't think we are even planning to sell Buffon nor I think City would make 80mln euros offer for him.

About Trezeguet...his statistics looks pretty great and he's still a great poacher but he is not getting any younger so I think he's on his way out since we can get a lot of money for him.It's not I'd like to see him going but it's something many clubs do.He is 31yo and I think we won't get less than 18mln euros for him.

His replacement?I don't think we're going to buy Torres or Benzema even though I think both of them would be perfect for us.If he leaves Amauri will just continue playing in our starting XI so I don't think Benzema or someone would accept some rotation while they can get much more money & play time in lets say Milan.
Yet again if Giovinco continues to play as AML it can be different but not much since I doubt(again) that he'll like to wait for Del Piero to retire.
We are being linked with some young strikers from Brazil so it could be Dentinho.
From what I've seen he's something like Trezeguet but more skillful,looks like a poacher.He's 19yo but his price would be ~15mln euros maybe,big name but not like Pato was in Brazil.I see something like that to be more suitable for us,he's young and he would rotate while he can still learn from them and I don't think he would reject us.

So don't get your hopes high that we'll get Eto'o or someone if we sell David.

 

[V]

Sell Amauri, get Benzema. Keep our legends.

 

[Albertmare]

Sounds Great

 

[V]

Or don't sell Amauri and still keep our legends. They're 30, they're not cripples. This "cashing in" business on people that gave their all to this club makes me sick to my stomach.

 

[Alen]

Sell Amauri, get Benzema. Keep our legends.

What makes you think that City would like Amauri, not Benzema? :smile:
At the end we'll sell Iaquinta to City, noone else.

 

[V]

What makes you think that City would like Amauri, not Benzema? :smile:
At the end we'll sell Iaquinta to City, noone else.

I don't care who they like, we need to keep our legends. Besides, I honestly believe our attack is as good as it gets, why sell anyone? Sad thing is, Iaquinta will want to leave. Even then we're good since CR sees Gio as a forward.

 

[Rollie]

Tough call. If Trez wants to stay, we should accommodate him; for me, his loyalty should be rewarded indefinitely. The man is an outstanding professional, and a legend. Because of his style of play, he'll likely be effective for another 4 years or so. I'm with Alen - sell Iaquinta before Trez; in the end, the difference in their value is probably not significant enough to lose the intangibles that David brings to the table.

If we were ever in the market for another striker, I'd love to see Giuseppe Rossi on this team. It would be complicated with ManU involved, expensive too, but he's a player who's pretty exciting to watch. I also like having a solid compliment of players from La Nazionale on our squad.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Sell Amauri, get Benzema. Keep our legends.

It's hard when it comes to selling some players,or some legends.But when he reaches some age and some good offer comes,staff usually doesn't hesitate.There are some players that won't leave clubs even if that offer is astronomic like it's case with Del Piero,Totti,Maldini,De Rossi,Buffon etc. but honestly I don't see Trezeguet in that list.Good offer would break it.Like it could be Kaka's case.I think it's bullsh#t and I don't think he is going to leave.

I already said,I don't think he would like competition and in this case it's Del Piero and Trezeguet.Great goal machines.Alex will probably play 3 more years while Trez can play even more.Trezeguet wants to play and it will be hard when he recoveres from injury because Amauri is doing great.So with saying that I highly doubt he'd like to rotate with Benzema who can take his place easily.

We should not even consider selling Amauri.Benzema is no better than him right now.He got everything and he's one of the best strikers in Europe IMO.He's something like Drogba was 2 years ago.There aren't many strikers like him so I there's no way I would sell him.Not to mention he can play for good 5 years.

If I had to choose between Trezeguet and Amauri I say Amauri.Not because I like him more but because I see it as a better future solution.

 

[Rollie]

I honestly believe that in a 4-3-1-2, Giovinco could play behind an Amauri Trez combination... i think that could be outstanding actually...

A debate should never be made about choosing between Amauri and Trez. We just paid 15 plus Nocerino for Amauri, and he's adapted to the team extremely well. Amauri's going absolutely nowhere and just because we bought him doesn't mean that Trezeguet should go. One does not make the other redundant, and Trez was MASSIVE for us last year. Actually, our strike force is awesome.

It's time for Nedved's replacement (world class), and Motta on loan. We should be able to afford that...

 

[V]

It's hard when it comes to selling some players,or some legends.But when he reaches some age and some good offer comes,staff usually doesn't hesitate.There are some players that won't leave clubs even if that offer is astronomic like it's case with Del Piero,Totti,Maldini,De Rossi,Buffon etc. but honestly I don't see Trezeguet in that list.Good offer would break it.Like it could be Kaka's case.I think it's bullsh#t and I don't think he is going to leave.

I already said,I don't think he would like competition and in this case it's Del Piero and Trezeguet.Great goal machines.Alex will probably play 3 more years while Trez can play even more.Trezeguet wants to play and it will be hard when he recoveres from injury because Amauri is doing great.So with saying that I highly doubt he'd like to rotate with Benzema who can take his place easily.

We should not even consider selling Amauri.Benzema is no better than him right now.He got everything and he's one of the best strikers in Europe IMO.He's something like Drogba was 2 years ago.There aren't many strikers like him so I there's no way I would sell him.Not to mention he can play for good 5 years.

If I had to choose between Trezeguet and Amauri I say Amauri.Not because I like him more but because I see it as a better future solution.

Well that's where we disagree, I see Trezeguet just as important as Nedved, Buffon, DP, Camo, etc. and would only consider selling him if he demands to leave, like Zidane did. Cashing in on a player that stayed in Serie B with this club is downright disgusting IMO.

People quickly forget what he gives on the pitch and I won't get into numbers and statistics because I'm tired of it already. It's always the same story with Trezeguet. In my book he's showed his quality in the last decade and in my eyes is one of the best true poachers ever, the type of attacker which is dying out. He can still bang in goals like no other, including Amauri. I'm not afraid for Trez, he's a determined player and if he recovers from this injury fully, he'll give Amauri a run for his money this season already, you can be sure about that.

My solution is keep all our attackers, who's to say next year Amauri won't be on the sidelines? Or DP? You almost never have all strikers fit, or very rarely.

As for Benzema, I've never hidden my admiration for him, but I was merely making a point about keeping our legends. I don't think we have a chance in hell of getting him, no matter who we sell. And he is above Amauri IMHO.

 

[HelterSkelter]

Well that's where we disagree, I see Trezeguet just as important as Nedved, Buffon, DP, Camo, etc. and would only consider selling him if he demands to leave, like Zidane did. Cashing in on a player that stayed in Serie B with this club is downright disgusting IMO.

I dont want to sound like a Trezeguet hater.I love the guy and what he's done for the club.But the 'Cashing in on a player that stayed with us in Serie B' argument gets tossed around way too often,and that too,incorrectly.Trezeguet,like Camo,was made to stay against his wishes Initially.I dont question his commitment to the club.Im sure he loves Juventus,but he didnt want to stay with us when we were first relegated.I dont blame him.Nor do i blame Camo.But that's the way things are and they get ignored a lot.

Coming to what he adds to this team,yes he's a brilliant goal scorer,but you cannot ignore the fact that he has peaked,and he might not get any better.Yes he still has what it takes to score 20 plus goals per season,but if we have the chance to sell him for a big amount that some stupid owner might want to pay for him,i think we should take it.I dont see us having any problem in attracting a top drawer goal scorer to the club provided we have enough money.Though wether we find a top drawer,young goal scorer is another issue.If we have one in mind,then i firmly believe that Trezeguet should be sold for a decent amount.I wont be happy to see him go,and the same goes for every other Juventus supporter,but you need to make these decisions sooner or later.The sooner the better IMO.

 

[Dostoevsky]

Well that's where we disagree, I see Trezeguet just as important as Nedved, Buffon, DP, Camo, etc. and would only consider selling him if he demands to leave, like Zidane did. Cashing in on a player that stayed in Serie B with this club is downright disgusting IMO.

People quickly forget what he gives on the pitch and I won't get into numbers and statistics because I'm tired of it already. It's always the same story with Trezeguet. In my book he's showed his quality in the last decade and in my eyes is one of the best true poachers ever, the type of attacker which is dying out. He can still bang in goals like no other, including Amauri. I'm not afraid for Trez, he's a determined player and if he recovers from this injury fully, he'll give Amauri a run for his money this season already, you can be sure about that.

My solution is keep all our attackers, who's to say next year Amauri won't be on the sidelines? Or DP? You almost never have all strikers fit, or very rarely.

As for Benzema, I've never hidden my admiration for him, but I was merely making a point about keeping our legends. I don't think we have a chance in hell of getting him, no matter who we sell. And he is above Amauri IMHO.

I would hate to see him leaving.

I rate him very high and I think he did many things for us that simly can't be forgotten that easy.

I would like if he stays but I just said I think our staff will sell him.It's one of the dare I say smart moves that clubs make sometimes.He gave us a lot but he will give us more (considering payment).I do think he's as important as other.

I just think he is not one of the players that will retire at this club.That was my point.

 

[V]

I dont want to sound like a Trezeguet hater.I love the guy and what he's done for the club.But the 'Cashing in on a player that stayed with us in Serie B' argument gets tossed around way too often,and that too,incorrectly.Trezeguet,like Camo,was made to stay against his wishes Initially.I dont question his commitment to the club.Im sure he loves Juventus,but he didnt want to stay with us when we were first relegated.I dont blame him.Nor do i blame Camo.But that's the way things are and they get ignored a lot.

Coming to what he adds to this team,yes he's a brilliant goal scorer,but you cannot ignore the fact that he has peaked,and he might not get any better.Yes he still has what it takes to score 20 plus goals per season,but if we have the chance to sell him for a big amount that some stupid owner might want to pay for him,i think we should take it.I dont see us having any problem in attracting a top drawer goal scorer to the club provided we have enough money.Though wether we find a top drawer,young goal scorer is another issue.If we have one in mind,then i firmly believe that Trezeguet should be sold for a decent amount.I wont be happy to see him go,and the same goes for every other Juventus supporter,but you need to make these decisions sooner or later.The sooner the better IMO.

The first part is simply not true. Trezeguet was one of the players the board wanted to ofload but was wanted by DD and Trezeguet agreed to stay. Trezeguet was also one of the last players to get a new contract, hence the hand gesture at the end of Serie B. And things are not so black & white as you put them to be, if either Camo or Trez truly wanted to leave they could have simply stopped appearing at trainings, like Ibra did during preseason, and no one could stopped them.

Things were complicated at the time and not everyone had assurances like Buffon or DP. At the end both stayed and made our promotion easier, so this arguement doesn't get tossed around without reason.

So what if he has peaked? DP has peaked three times already. He's 31 and still offers so much.

We need to improve defense and midfield, attack is FINE. In two years we can start finding younger strikers who can learn from Ale and Trez. You transition players slowly, like Trez was deputy to Inzaghi his first year. You don't sell your best, get new, younger and just pray for the best.

 

[Alen]

We need to improve defense and midfield, attack is FINE.

True.
The only way i'd change something in attack is to sell Iaquinta if we don't have enough money to improve the defense and midfield. As someone already mentioned, with Del Piero/Giovinco as 2nd strikers and Trez/Amauri in prima punta, Iaquinta may ask to be sold anyway, so this sale may be the least painful.

But i prefer not to change anything at all and i hope we'll be financially powerful to improve the other departments, without touching the attackers.

 

[V]

True.
The only way i'd change something in attack is to sell Iaquinta if we don't have enough money to improve the defense and midfield. As someone already mentioned, with Del Piero/Giovinco as 2nd strikers and Trez/Amauri in prima punta, Iaquinta may ask to be sold anyway, so this sale may be the least painful.

But i prefer not to change anything at all and i hope we'll be financially powerful to improve the other departments, without touching the attackers.

Exactly. Only if Iaquinta wants to leave, we should get an extra attacker a-la Zalayeta, though we could do without it.

Then in two years we'll have a moulded Giovinco, to take over from Alex and we can buy a younger striker to learn from Trez/Amauri for a year or two. Smooth transition of generations, not at once.

 

[chester]

Keep both, no matter what.

 

[Ahmed]

Exactly. Only if Iaquinta wants to leave, we should get an extra attacker a-la Zalayeta, though we could do without it.

Then in two years we'll have a moulded Giovinco, to take over from Alex and we can buy a younger striker to learn from Trez/Amauri for a year or two. Smooth transition of generations, not at once.

sell Vinnie, recall Paolucci, and use that money to get a top-notch Nedved replacement

 

[RAMI-N]

Keep both... They are Juve alongside the king :bigscarf: