Iago Falqué (114 Viewers)
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So the same goes for Barca too since they let him go and join us?
Look mate, we signed the guy, he couldn't prove his worth here so we loaned him out to a team which plays in a league he's familiar with and where he can rediscover himself and us getting some money back in return or an improved version of him. It aint the end of the world and it certainly doesn't mean our whole youth policy is a fuck up.
Look mate, we signed the guy, he couldn't prove his worth here so we loaned him out to a team which plays in a league he's familiar with and where he can rediscover himself and us getting some money back in return or an improved version of him. It aint the end of the world and it certainly doesn't mean our whole youth policy is a fuck up.
Where did I say accept and obey?
Juventus is a club that sends its youth products to other clubs, if you have the power to change that to whatever suits your taste, go ahead and do that. If you can't, you can either moan about it or live with it.
If I choose not to moan about the club it does not mean I am complacent but I know for sure that whatever I say or do on an internet forum nothing would change.
Juventus is a club that sends its youth products to other clubs, if you have the power to change that to whatever suits your taste, go ahead and do that. If you can't, you can either moan about it or live with it.
If I choose not to moan about the club it does not mean I am complacent but I know for sure that whatever I say or do on an internet forum nothing would change.
barca were also fucked with the fabregas story. but they let many youth players get a chance like dos santos but when the didn't make it they let another in like bojan or pedro. so no this isn't the same. and no we don't have a good youth policy but with the new rules emerging we have to get it straight. we buy players like grosso and sali but they aren't better then our youth players or not that much better. or if the old players we have were so good why did we finnish 7th? just give the young guns a chance. like we did with del piero when he was young
Yeah, our youth policy is so spectacular. 
It's not just about Iago.
It's not just about Iago.
Only Marchisio so far did that successful jump into the first team and subsequently was part of Italy's NT. He simply is good enough while the others, for different reasons couldn't. But that doesn't mean that they are all top players who simply didn't get the chance like many here picture it to be, the more sensible justification is that they're not even good enough to get that nod to the first team or even from the bench in some cases.
But whatever, don't let this stop the" we don't concentrate on our youth teams, we don't give our young players a chance
" continuous moaning.
We've been over this before. My stance is that yes, we can't really change the minds of the directors. And if there is no point in discussing it as you say, then there isn't a point to this forum.
Well done.
Well done.
You're a product of your environment. If the environment isn't conducive of individuality and prosperity, then you'll fail. Certainly, not all of our youth products will make it, which is understandable. But some will and should, yet they aren't given a chance. To reap the benefits of the youth, you HAVE to give them a chance.
You must believe that all coaches have the same ability and thus those players who are not given time must not be good enough. I don't subscribe to that predictable, narrow-minded and easy-way-out notion.
You must believe that all coaches have the same ability and thus those players who are not given time must not be good enough. I don't subscribe to that predictable, narrow-minded and easy-way-out notion.
Barca have better players both in their youth and their first team than we do, that's a fact. Now I can't see what that has to do with our youth policy being a fucked up one.
Sure, few players cut it out to the first team but that's rather due to the fact that they simply aint good enough not because we've freaks who just can't help but delay the improvement of our young players and continuously trying to press them out.
We loan players who prove themselves in the 2nd team to other Serie A and B clubs to gain experience by playing regularly and subsequently call them back if they do impress or at least prove their worth. When/if they don't, we simply either sell them out or half their contracts to those clubs or others, which is the right thing to do. I really can't see what is wrong with that.
Sure, few players cut it out to the first team but that's rather due to the fact that they simply aint good enough not because we've freaks who just can't help but delay the improvement of our young players and continuously trying to press them out.
We loan players who prove themselves in the 2nd team to other Serie A and B clubs to gain experience by playing regularly and subsequently call them back if they do impress or at least prove their worth. When/if they don't, we simply either sell them out or half their contracts to those clubs or others, which is the right thing to do. I really can't see what is wrong with that.
We've had our share of different directors and coaches both in the first team and that of the 2nd yet those same players we're discussing here couldn't make it. Yet the club has reacted in the most sensible way by giving them other clubs to prove their worth in, and I can't see where the failure is in that.
If players make it there, they're usually called back ala Marchisio, Seba, DC and Moli style. If not, then them not being good enough is the most probable scenario, hence you can't blame the club for selling them afterwards even if those do bloom in later years, they simply didn't take full advantage of the chances they were given by the club. So again, it's not the policy's failure but rather that of the player's.
If players make it there, they're usually called back ala Marchisio, Seba, DC and Moli style. If not, then them not being good enough is the most probable scenario, hence you can't blame the club for selling them afterwards even if those do bloom in later years, they simply didn't take full advantage of the chances they were given by the club. So again, it's not the policy's failure but rather that of the player's.
are they really better? why didn't they win the world youth cup in 2007? i think the core team is maybe better so it's easier to give them the chance. but always loaning players to other teams with a different playing style won't help you. sometimes it does.
in the end it all depends on how much faith has a coach in his players and if he's capable tot introduce the player. we have to much faith in our old guard but i think immobile would have a better impact last year than iaquinta or amauri. but hey he isn't mature yet so just let's loan him next year and maybe when he is 30 he can come back.
in the end it all depends on how much faith has a coach in his players and if he's capable tot introduce the player. we have to much faith in our old guard but i think immobile would have a better impact last year than iaquinta or amauri. but hey he isn't mature yet so just let's loan him next year and maybe when he is 30 he can come back.